Violent Islam is at war with US & we need to up our game

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  1. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    'Violent Islam is at war with us and we need to up our game,' to paraphrase Sen. Lindsey Graham on the CNN Sunday morning show with Candy Crowely.

    Everyone agree with that?
     
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    Start with deporting Moslems?
     
  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Been at war with us for decades but certain liberal segments of this society would rather bury their heads or blame everyone else.
     
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    platitudes mean little. specifics please
     
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    Here's a few items I thought of:

    01] Since non-Radical Islam in America seems to content with sitting on their hands while evil is done in the name of their faith...

    Require every Mosque in America to put up a $100 Million Dollar Cash Bond, or close. This Bond would be held by the local government, and used to pay Victim/Survivor benefits anytime a Radical Jihadi Commits a Crime.

    Similarly every Islamic Cleric would have to put up a $10 Million Dollar Cash Bond.

    If no claim whatsoever is made against the bond in forty years, it will be refunded.

    02] Mandatory FBI background checks and licenses, at the expense of the Muslim clergy before they will be allowed to practice mass in a Mosque. The Cost of the investigation and the license will be paid by the Islamic Clergy Member, and not be less that $40K.

    03] When ever ANY member of a Mosque commits a violent crime, all foreign members of that Mosque will be deported. If the public prosecutor cannot show which Mosque the offend was a member of, the nearest physical Mosque shall be subject to the pentaly

    04] 100% Moratorium on all Muslim Immigration for a Decade. If any Radical Islamic Attack occurs, the clock resets.

    05] If a Foreign National make financial contributions to support an attacking Jihadi, all American Held Financial Assets will be forfeit to the Victims restitution fund.

    06] 100% Ban of any Islamic Mosque or Institution or Private Individual from being able to make any political campaign contribution to any American Candidacy. Accepting a campaign Contribution from any Islamic Mosque, Institution, or Private Individual, American Citizen or not, is grounds for that candidate being immediately removed from office, if a lawyer, permanently disbarred, and prohibited from ever holding American Office again.


    Just a few ideas that might make a real difference.

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  6. monty1

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    He probably means that the US should give them more of what they are reacting to in their own countries. A huge display of force and brutality could put an end to it but I suspect it wouldn't and would only make revenge attacks more frequent, more likely, and much bigger eventually. However, there may not be much to lose as the tipping point has probably already been reached.
     
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    there is plenty to lose. Malaysia and Indonesia for a start
     
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    While this is unconstitutional, bigoted and if applied to other faith traditions our country will be empty, what I find most disturbing is that it contradicts a quote in your signature. By the way, tell me what you think the non-radicals should do? Should all christians be responsible for the KKK and Westboro Baptist church?
     
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    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    So you're more than willing to allow the current Revenge Attacks Intimidate America into submission to Islam?

    LOL, NO!

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    Didn't President Bush already try that in Iraq with a huge cost in blood and treasure? We decimated the country, perhaps that's what they're reacting to.
     
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    My question is: when is Lindsey Graham going to volunteer to enlist in the armed forces and become part of the solution as opposed to the problem??
     
  12. Kurmugeon

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    It is perfectly constitutional, if the legislation is passed by congress.

    You cannot shout "Fire" (when there is none) in a crowded theatre. You cannot use the pulpit to incite violence against people of other faiths.

    Yes, we DID have non-radicalized Christians putting similar restrictions and prosecutions on the "Christian" KKK, and today, the KKK is largely a non-existent.

    If the Catholic Church starting sending suicide bombers into Islamic gatherings, a similar set of Restrictions, Bonds, and Limits would be placed on that Religion.

    The VICTIMS of the Radical Islamic Attackers have RIGHTS, these laws would protect those rights. Many have been KILLED!

    Those Americans and American Immigrants / Visitors who are Islamic, have brought this on themselves by not doing enough to stop the radicals among their faith.

    If Islamic People in America want to enjoy the same privileges as people of other faiths in America, they need to do allot more to restrain and limit the radical among them.

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    you have no way of disallowing the revenge attacks
     
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    The KKK practiced Revenge Attacks, for a little while...

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    there werent 1.6 billion of them
     
  16. Kurmugeon

    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    There are not 1.6 Billion Muslims in America.

    For the sake of the preservation of the lives and rights of those who are already American Citizen's, Recent Events have shown that we should KEEP it that way.

    As I said, a 100% moratorium on Islamic People immigrating into the U.S.

    The people who are NOW Americans have much greater American RIGHTS than any prospective immigrant.


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    Without moral fiber the US has no defense.
     
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    The Moral Fiber to DEFEND its current non-Islamic Citizens from Terrorism and Murder?


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    lol! you cant keep Mexicans out and you sure aint gonna be able to do any better with jihadists
     
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    It's common sense.

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    Thanks Obama!
     
  21. Kurmugeon

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    We could have kept the Mexicans out any time over the last 100 years that we chose too, we just didn't have a life or death reason for doing so.
     
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    B.S. you could.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Why not?
     
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    thanks georgie boy!!

    resent-day countries of origin
    According to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the countries of origin for the largest numbers of illegal immigrants are as follows (latest of 2009):[7]
    Country of origin Raw number Percent of total Percent change 2000 to 2009
    Mexico 6,650,000 62% +42%
    El Salvador 530,000 5% +25%
    Guatemala 480,000 4% +65%
    Honduras 320,000 3% +95%
    Philippines 270,000 2% +33%
    India 200,000 2% +64%
    Korea 200,000 2% +14%
    Ecuador 170,000 2% +55%
    Brazil 150,000 1% +49%
    China 120,000 1% -37%
    Other 1,650,000 15% -17%
     
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    the border is too long, the opportunities for corruption too great and you plain cant afford it
     

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