Thread:Boy Scouts of America Opt to Destroy Themselves #2

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756

there is no propensity grok. that isn't going to change no matter how hard you stomp your feet and whine about it.

 

And there is no changing the fact that HOMOSEXUALS have COMMITTED ACTS of PEDOPHILIA at a FAR HIGHER RATE than have HETEROSEXUALS,whcih the STUDY SHOWS and mincing and prancing won't change it.

"Propensity" has nothing to do with ACTUAL MOLESTATIONS. It is nothing more than a semantic attempt to deflect.

One sentence of apology for a non-PC study does NOT change the numbers it
revealed.


And ,from Canada:


Canada’s Boy Scouts Warn BSA Of Homosexual Infiltration


In 1998, Canadian Scouts (CS) decided to allow females, atheists, agnostics, homosexuals, bisexuals, and transsexuals to join the CS. In 1999, they approved the establishment of an all-homosexual troop, which now marches in Canada’s “gay pride” parades. Within five years, scouting membership dropped over 50 percent, many scouting camps and offices were closed, and staff was laid off.

More importantly is the tragic sexual abuse by leaders in scouting.

Brian Rushfeldt, president of Canada Family Action, stated, “They have secret files (here in Canada) as they do down there (in the U.S.) of guys that had abused kids that they hadn’t reported. There were investigations into the abuse of boys, which never really produced anything in Canada.”

http://lastresistance.com/1262/canadas-boy-scouts-warn-bsa-of-homosexual-infiltration/

 

Actually we are saying the same thing, you just used a more succinct term to adequately explain what I was clumsily trying to say. Thanks

 

So you should be ready to ban all laws that ban murder and rape since according to you being natural can't be helped. Funny how you omitted that part of my reply.

 

And this:



Child Molestation
by homosexuals
and heterosexuals




".....In fact, a number of studies performed over
a period spanning more than half a century—
many of which were performed by homosexuals
or their sympathizers—have shown that
an extremely large percentage of sexually
active homosexuals also participate in child
sexual molestation.
This is not “homophobia” or “hatred,” this
is simple scientific fact.
For example;
• Homosexual Alfred Kinsey, the preeminent
sexual researcher in the history
of sexual research, found in 1948
that 37 percent of all male homosexuals
admitted to having sex with children
under 17 years old.4
• Avery recent (2000) study published
in the Archives of Sexual Behavior
found that “The best epidemiological
evidence indicates that only 2-4% of
men attracted to adults prefer men. In
contrast, around 25-40% of men attracted
to children prefer boys. Thus,
the rate of homosexual attraction is 6-
20 times higher among pedophiles.”5
• Another 2000 study in the Archives of
Sexual Behavior found that “. . . all but
9 of the 48 homosexual men preferred
the youngest two male age categories”
for sexual activity.” These age categories
were fifteen and twenty years old.6
• Yet another recent study in the Archives
of Sexual Behavior found that “Pedophilia
appears to have a greater than
chance association with two other statistically
infrequent phenomena. The
first of these is homosexuality. . . Recent
surveys estimate the prevalence of
homosexuality, among men attracted to
adults, in the neighborhood of 2%. In
contrast, the prevalence of homosexu

ality among pedophiles may be as high
as 30-40%.”7
• A1989 study in the Journal of Sex
Research noted that “. . . the proportion
of sex offenders against male children
among homosexual men is substantially
larger than the proportion of sex offenders
against female children among
heterosexual men . . . the development
of pedophilia is more closely linked
with homosexuality than with heterosexuality.”
8
• A1988 study of 229 convicted child
molesters published in the Archives of
Sexual Behavior found that 86% of pedophiles
described themselves as homosexual
or bisexual.9
• In a 1984 Journal of Sex and Marital
Therapy article, sex researchers found
that “The proportional prevalence of
[male] offenders against male children
in this group of 457 offenders against
children was 36 percent.”10
• Homosexual activists Karla Jay and
Allen Young revealed in their 1979 Gay
Report that 23% of all homosexuals
have acted as “chicken hawks” — that
is, they have preyed on adolescent or
younger boys.11
• In a 1992 study published in the Journal
of Sex and Marital Therapy, sex
researchers K. Freud and R. I. Watson
found that homosexual males are three
times more likely than straight men to
engage in pedophilia, and that the average
pedophile victimizes between 20
and 150 boys before being arrested.



http://www.afany.org/HPR.pdf
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Etc., ad nauseum...

 

You really need help rahl. Where do you back up your lie that homosexual pedophiles don't molest children of the same sex more because its sitting right there for all to see.

And as if that wasn't enough:

Heterosexual pedophiles, in self-report studies, have on average abused 5.2 children and committed an average of 34 sexual acts vs homosexual pedophiles who have on average abused 10.7 children and committed an average of 52 acts. 1

http://www.abusewatch.net/pedophiles.pdf

This denial of yours from the truth is truly pathetic.

 

Not at all. I quoted you entirely. You must have missed the part of the HIGHER LEARNING which we have the understanding of these things and how detrimental they are to society, and have decided that they should be illegal.

Or do you only see things in black or white?

 

You were proven wrong with your own source grok. Move on, you're embarassing yourself

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Proven wrong by your own source

 

It isn't denial. It's reality, backed by the national health institute, which grok cited.

You guys need to read before you post to avoid further embarassment

 

That's why you can't point to it or acknowledge my evidence.

Typical rahl. Go ahead, run away some more. Its expected.

 

Lol, can't point to it? I've directly linked to it about a dozen times in this thread. Grok kept on telling us about it but refused to actually provide a link so i had to find it myself. Now we know why he wouldn't link to it. It directly refutes his claim

 

LOL You haven't done it once. This isn't a Ragu commercial. You can't point to an entire article and simply claim "its in there"

Here, allow me to demonstrate again:

Heterosexual pedophiles, in self-report studies, have on average abused 5.2 children and committed an average of 34 sexual acts vs homosexual pedophiles who have on average abused 10.7 children and committed an average of 52 acts

See how that works rahl? Your bs claim completely trashed in one easy quote

 

According to the Homiletic and Pastoral Review? "A magazine serving Catholic clergy needs."

Fair to say it doesn't serve all needs of the Catholic clergy. Oh the irony.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...destroy-themselves-2-a-18.html#post1062687394

Stop embarassing yourself

 

Not BS in either of them. I already explained how homosexuality is an aberration (you may dwell in denial, it's not illegal), and as for the Muslim connection to pedophilia (Koran 65:4), it's well known to those who know what they're talking about, as well as Mo the Pedophile's pedophilia, and his marriage to the 9 year old Aisha. So you don't know what you're talking about. That's apparent

I see you have the afflication all too common in this forum, of having something explained to you correctly, and then you rampage right on talking ridiculously, as if you never were told. So here is is again from post # 188. This time perhaps it will sink in, and you won't bury your head in the sand.

" Homosexuality in animals has nothing to do with the mental aberration of homosexuality in humans. Where homosexuality appears in animals, that is just as mentally aberrated for them as it is in humans. Did you think that animals somehow escape the plight on being mentally aberrated ? Animals suffer from all sorts of mental problems. Homosexuality is just one of them."

 

FALSE! The Christian bible is the NEW Testament. Why do you think they have DIFFERENT names ? Because they're the same ? Pheeeeww! (high-pitched whistle)

 

Just as I pointed out to you that yes, they are the same, by virtue of both suffer from all sorts of mental problems. Homosexuality is just one of them.

 

FALSE! You did NOT show anything I said to be false. YOU are talking false.

HA HA. You need to pay attention to the posts a little closer. I didn't say homosexuality was not a behavior. Quite the contrary, I said (in Post # 133) it IS a behavior >> "How can gay not be a behavior ? That's exactly what it is. The BEHAVIOR of having sex with someone of one's own sex. That's a BEHAVIOR."

This is a prime example of a shameless poster trying to deceive the readers by attempting to put words in the mouth of another poster, by taking his words out of context, thereby changing the original meaning/message. Here is the original post >> " And my 2 statements have no conflict with each other whatsoever. I state BOTH of them again right now. Having sex with someone is a behavior, AND it doesn't really matter if we're talking about the behavior or having sex with someone of one's own sex, or a pattern of attraction, sexually and romantically, towards those of the same gender. BOTH statements are true."

Obviously, the not really mattering had to do with the right or wrong of the 2 statements, not one being a behavior, the other a trait. And don't ever try this little ploy again, or I'll have to kick your ass even harder than this the next time.

You don't do well pretending to look smart. Qualify is the word you are looking for, not "quantify". Quantify has to do with quantities, which is not what you're taking about. OK. Now, how is homosexuality harming gays, you ask ? Simple. Anything mentally aberrated is harmful, because it is a departure from normal, healthy mentality.

Well, apparently you know how sodomy is, so apparently you are gay, and totally biased in this discussion. In any case, I certainly HAVE defined "mental aberration" in a meaningful sense. And you can be as sorry as you like, but you are not changing the fact that homosexuality (as you vividly describe it here) most certainly IS contrary to nature, contrary to the natural design of the body parts, and contrary to the normal pattern of attraction. You're probably so sick, you don't even know you are.
And a lot of work has been put into the subject. HA HA HA. Oh yeah, indeed. By gays, trying to make their sick lifestyle accepted in society (which will never happen). No work need be put into it. Nothing was ever more self-evident than the loonieness of homosexuality. But go ahead and keep on pretending that homosexuality is a valid lifestyle. We all know it makes you feel better to tell yourselves that.
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seriously, just stop. both books make up the Christian bible.

 

I appreciate and understand what point your trying to get across now. I get it, I just don't agree with it. Cheers.

 

You don't agree with it, or you don't want to agree with it ?

 

Don't agree. I view it positively, you view it negatively. It's as simple as that.

 

The only person here embarrassing yourself here is you. You took an opinion and ignored the evidence. Allow me to demonstrate again:

Heterosexual pedophiles, in self-report studies, have on average abused 5.2 children and committed an average of 34 sexual acts vs homosexual pedophiles who have on average abused 10.7 children and committed an average of 52 acts

Now rahl, is 10.7 a larger number than 5.2?

Is 52 a higher number than 34?

Take your time before you answer. Please do not embarrass yourself further.

 

I gave strong evidence from the APA, wikipedia, and a third site about psychology offering the definitions of homosexuality. Then you brushed it off with no counter-argument.

Slight mistake, sometimes you get too caught up in stupid crap and mistake one word for another. It happens when slogging through such high quantities of grade-A bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

Quantify is also used like this (second definition). I know my way around the language just fine. Also, define harmful, because you clearly don't mean it the way normal people do. You still haven't explained how homosexuality is harmful, you've just made the same assertion as in the last post in not quite as many words. You have shown no inherent harm in homosexuality, any more than you have shown any inherent harm in, say, enjoying this kind of death metal - certainly it's not normal as most people wouldn't get within a city block of an apartment blasting that, but it certainly isn't harmful. Meanwhile, no study has ever found any actual, tangible harm in being homosexual. I'm going to go right ahead and say that if you can't quantify the harm that comes from "a departure from a normal, healthy mentality" (whereas I would assert that homosexuality is a healthy mentality).

Boy, I bet my girlfriend who's been here all week would love to know about that. I'm bi.

...And yet, I'm not the one asserting that one of the most prestigious psychological institutions in the world has been taken over by homosexuals. Go figure. I wonder how other major psychological societies handle homosexuality? Or have they all been taken over as well?

Then, as I pointed out, you have failed to define normal mental condition, or "in accordance with nature" or whatever the (*)(*)(*)(*) you wanted to call it. Because homosexuality is entirely natural - it occurs in nature, its appearance is natural, it's been explained why it would have continued to exist in evolution.

It occurs in nature, its appearance is natural, it's been explained why it would have continued to exist in evolution - on what basis do you claim this?

Okay, now I have to get into it. The male prostate is located approximately far enough within the anus that you cannot easily touch it with your fingers, but a decent-sized penis can reach it wonderfully. It is also the single most sensitive part of the male anatomy, providing incredible pleasure when stimulated. What's more, the outer rim of the anus is also quite sensitive for such affection, and the anus is structured in such a way as to clench a dick very firmly, and self-lubricates as well. Not only can we not qualify the claim of design (whose design? Evolution's? Already showed you why homosexuality would be passed down by evolution. God's? I don't believe it exists, so you'd be barking up the wrong tree.), but it can clearly be shown that if we were designed, we were designed in such a way that putting a dick in an anus was clearly meant to be fun for both parties.

If by normal, you mean "something the majority of humans hold", then yes, I agree with you - most people aren't gay. However, that doesn't make it harmful any more than it makes cougar-hunting or BBW-chasing harmful.

So, lemme get this straight - it is your assertion that every psychologist who worked on understanding homosexuality was gay?

If it was self-evident, you wouldn't have so many gay and straight people telling you that you're full of (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...destroy-themselves-2-a-18.html#post1062687394

Stop embarassing yourself