With 60,000 dead, Mexicans wonder why drug war doesn't rate in presidential debate

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  1. CommonSensePlz

    CommonSensePlz New Member

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    The Cartels money is all made on Marijuana. That is their bread and butter. The money made by Cannabis is what funds the weapons, and the cocaine, heroin, and other drug trades. Without Marijuana, they would all but go under.

    Just legalize the "drug" that isn't harmful to begin with. That would be the first step to the war on drugs.

    I would rather someone drive high than drunk. Or, for that matter, do anything high than drunk. Alcohol is a more dangerous substance than Marijuana. Both physically and the effects it has on you.
     
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    absolutely but it will never happen as cannabis is considered subversive, it makes people think about things a little bit and they dont like that
     
  3. katsung47

    katsung47 Banned

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    Mexico is under the control by the "war on drugs". Mid-east is under the control by the "war on terror". US is the mastermind and makes money on these two wars. The trick is, he blames others for it. (like what you did)
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you're claiming that those less than 100,000 guns were ALL of the guns seized in Mexico? You're a joke.
     
  5. CharlieChalk

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    you know different I assume then
     
  6. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I do know different. The question is, with your bold claims, why don't you?
     
  7. CharlieChalk

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    my bold claims ? I dont see you posting any links, and you claiming to know better than the mexican govt how many guns are seized in mexico is quite bold. I cant take this place much more, americans are so wantonly stupid it drives me insane my head would explode if I stayed here long term.
     
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    fine I was wrong about the number, but the point is the vast majority come from the us, the 100 000 the mexicans provided details of is a representative sample that will be mirrored every year
     
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    ...And it only took you calling me ignorant three or four times for you to realize that very simple error on your own part. Astonishing.

    *sigh* Now you need to provide a link that says that the 100,000 is a "representative sample" as you claim. I wonder if you even know what the term means?

    Geez, I leave this place for a couple of months and I come back to little more than bigoted slobs making any unsourced claim that suits their fancy.
     
  11. CharlieChalk

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    you are ignorant, being right about a number doesnt change that.

    representative sample means representative sample, its quite self-explanatory what that means. and of course it is, do you think they sifted through the guns to find more ones from america ? that will be why they even gave details of 100 000 guns to show how many come from the states, any sample that size collected at random is by definition representative.
     
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    Where did it say that the sample was random? Either provide proof that this sampling was random or admit that you're playing fast and loose with the facts again.

    Also, what makes more sense: 1) Giving a bunch of random guns to the US to trace, or 2) Giving the US the guns that are suspected of coming from the US to trace? Why would the Mexican government send guns to the US to trace that they knew originated in Brazil, for example? Use your (*)(*)(*)(*)ing head.
     
  13. katsung47

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    Mexico is under the control by the "war on drugs". Mid-east is under the control by the "war on terror". US is the mastermind and makes money on these two wars. The trick is, he blames others for it. (like what you did)


     
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    Nope.

    Last I checked, I can't buy an M-16 with a grenade launcher for less than $20,000 here in the states.
     
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    Drug war won't end anywhere because their is money to be made. The criminal justice system and the prison industrial complex, as well as law enforcement would lose a whole lot of cheddah if the war on drugs ended.
     
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    Just because money is made doesn't mean we control it. We don't control the cartels, for example. If we did, then things would be a lot less messy in border towns.

    The only cartels that we maintain some control over are in Columbia, but that's a different situation altogether from Mexico.
     
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    Then explain this.


     
  18. katsung47

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    And more here:

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    Gun-smuggling cartel figures possibly were paid FBI informants
    Probe reveals that the U.S. agency running the 'Fast and Furious' anti-gun-trafficking operation didn't know about the alleged FBI informants. Congressional investigators are looking into the matter.

     
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    DEA makes living on drug case. FBI makes living on terror case. Without these cases, they lose value to exist. So if there is none, they create one.

    To expand their power, DEA invented "War on drugs"; FBI and Pentagon invented "War on Terror". Under those two wars, drug business and terror activities become prosperous. So are the DEA, FBI and Pentagon. They got fat budget and expanded power - Patriot Act and NDAA.
     
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    cuz it make chimpy look bad
     

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