Government Scandals

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by mrgabble, May 26, 2013.

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Should obama be impeached for scandals

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  2. no

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  3. undecided

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  1. mrgabble

    mrgabble New Member

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    Do you think Obama knew about the irs scandal & other scandals right now? I have attached a poll please use & should obama be impeached?
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    Way too early to tell and too many if's at this point. If he knew Holder lied before Congress and that his press secretary did so over the IRS and FoxNews scandals, yes a case for impeachment could be made.
     
  3. Californian

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    Clearly, Obama knew about and was deeply involved in the Benghazi, IRS, Fox News, wiretapping, and drone scandals. Any one of those is grounds for impeachment, no less all 5.

    But giving Obama the benefit of the doubt that he really had no idea doesn't absolve him of the crimes. If he is so inept to have lost control of large portions of the government and to be continually lied to by his own White House staff, he should be impeached for that.

    Unfortunately, the only reasonable conclusion to Obama's administration at this point is impeachment.
     
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    Every president should be impeached, it should be customary. I mean, since scandals happen so often, so should consequences.
     
  5. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anyone here remember Iran-Contra?
     
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    Nothing that Obama did was impeachable. The IRS is supposed to do a proctoscopic evaluation of organizations that might be laundering money. It's their job.

    The Fox Boobs guy that got his package flagged may have been committing a felony. That is not covered by the 1st Amendment. There are things that slime like the Fox Boobs crews are just not allowed to know for national security reasons. The DoJ would probably do the same to a legitimate news reporter, so the GOP can just stop shrieking like the world was ending.

    Drones? What is wrong with usiong drones to hunt down members of an enemy guerilla formation overseas? Get back to me and snivel when they start doing it in Boston.
     
  7. mrgabble

    mrgabble New Member

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    The most sad scandal is Benghazi the president should have sent in a team to extract them if we have a policy of no troops left hehind then the same should apply to americans in embasy
     
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    I agree with your drone thing but Benghazi got me steaming
     
  9. Octo

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    This is all Republicans still licking their wounds since the election. Rove and his millions raised in super packs was a complete failure. Now they are worried they might even lose the House of Representatives. So they are out grabbing at straws trying to find something to smear the administration. The economy has picked up momentum, the stock market is making lots of money for investors and the deficit is starting to go down.

    So even with no help from the Republicans to try and help their constituents by working with the Democrats to try and get this country going. Obama has been very successful.
     
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    It is unfortunately what happened in Benghazi, but what the Republicans and Fox news is trying to do is to smear the administration because the U.N. Secretary announced on the news that it was a spontaneous attack which had started in Cairo because of the film depicting the prophet Mohammed.

    The thing is that it does not matter whether it was because of the film or just a terror attack by Al Quaida. Warnings had been given to the state department that the threats were there, but again the Republicans do not want our president to spend any money on security. They keep saying he is raising the dept. Now they are singing a different tune and want to pin the security blame to the administration.
    A drone attack wouldn't have helped unless you wanted the whole place blown up. At the time they did not know where the ambassador was and the help would have been too late. As it turned out it was not the film that caused the attack, but a well planned terror attack.

    Move on Republicans and let it go. Making fools of yourself.
     
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    I am not republican
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    That was not the job of this division of the IRS. They were solely charged with the approval process for the 501c applications.

    Then why is Holder saying there was never a potential to prosecute him or charge him with a crime and why didn't they charge the NYT reporters for the leaks they have published, why didn't they even investigate them?

    But the NYT and Washington Post are?
     
  13. Charles Nicholson

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    Wait... Targeting conservative organizations almost exclusively just prior to a presidential election isn't impeachable? How about targeting liberal groups, is that OK, too?

    And before you say "conservatives weren't targeted," I just watched the new IRS head admit that the IRS seriously screwed up, that certain groups were targeted because of political affiliations, that high levels of management are culpable, and that there ought to be a sweeping and thorough investigation of the IRS by the Congress/inspector general. He also said that these groups had been delayed for 400 and 500 days on their tax exemptions (considered atrocious by his own standards).

    Even if, by some miraculous idiocy, BHO is not aware, he should still be impeached - ineptitude is nearly as dangerous as corruption.

    It is worth noting that the DoJ did also spy on a "legitimate" news organization (the AP). That doesn't mean it's right, but I admit I don't know enough to debate the Fox News stuff. So that we don't disagree on that score, I suppose.

    As to the drone assassinations... Are you joking? The Constitution does not say "right to speedy and impartial trial by jury of peers, et cetera, unless you leave the country, in which case you're target practice." How can you support that? The Fed could say anything about anyone overseas in order to kill them, and we'd never know because there wouldn't be a trial in which the truth could be revealed by the defendant.

    Let me put it this way: since you love Obama so much, how would you like George Bush, Jr., the architect of the fascist Patriot Act, to have the power to kill anyone at any time the instant they left the border? I sure wouldn't like it! And I trust every President about half as far as I can throw him!

    How can you - and many people on both sides of the aisle - trust in a government that is so obviously corrupt?
     
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    Well then you must have been beside yourself when Saint Ronnie, ran away from lebannon after 200+ marines were killed? That politicians dictated that US troops in harms way were to stand guard with UNLOADED guns?

    Benghazi was an unfortunate clustermuck exacerbated by an ongoing CIA operation and too many secrets. For some reason, it seems that the right think that the US can project precision force anywhere on the globe in the matter of minutes or even a few hours.

    It seems that the righties would rather risk more dead heroes bravely dying to rescue dead bodies. Shades of mogadishu - black hawk down mofo.
     
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    But are they only supposed to do that examination to organizations that to one political party, on the eve of an election?

    Then, of course, there is the cover-up. Do you find it acceptable that they are blaming the lower-level workers for actions ordered by at the least, the mid-level workers?


    That said, I agree that it's not impeachable, and I don't blame the Obama White House for it. I blame the huge bureacracy that has gotten to the point that it thinks it is more important than the people.


    If they are American citizens it's still ok to hunt them down?
     
  16. Mayor Snorkum

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    King Obama, Fascist and Traitor, should be impeached for being born in Kenya.

    His role in Fast and Furious led to the murder of US Border Patrol agent Brian Terry, whose name King Obama was too important to know.

    He should be impeached for saying "corpseman".

    He should certainly be impeached for leaking Romney's tax records.

    And taking a nap after ordering the troops to stand down rather than ordering them to take action to protect Ambassador Scott in Benghazi?

    He should be impeached and executed for treason.
     
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    you mean, like set dates?
     
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    Oh for >>>ADVISOR EDIT: PROFANITY<<< sake! IF the president somehow stumbled onto what HIS people are doing? Oh, yeah the propaganda arm of the commiecratic party didn't report on it, so he couldn't have seen it on the news.
     
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    Is that why ovomits organizing outfit immediately turned into a not partisan tax exempt organization, with no wait? When it is OBVIOUS they are still working for ovomit? How about his kin in kenya, getting status immediately, even though they are proven criminals and terrorists and at least one of them didn't even use a real address?
     
  20. Mayor Snorkum

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    Yeah, after meeting with the IRS boss in charge of that (*)(*)(*)(*) 137 times, four times more than any other government official visits the White House (what did they discuss?), he doesn't have a clue about what the IRS was doing.

    Ain't no plausible deniability there, not one bit.
     
  21. goober

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    That story has been debunked
    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-irs-commissioner-and-the-white-house/276399/
     
  22. Mayor Snorkum

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    In other words, it hasn't been debunked, it's been confirmed by the Atlantic, a socialist front magazine, that the goon was at the White House 157 times, again, 4 times more than anyone else. That he didn't meet with the King directly doesn't mean His flappers didn't take orders from the King and relay messages.

    After all, the guy wasn't renting the Lincoln Bedroom or delivering cheeseburgers, so he wouldn't usually get to meet the Royal Couple, right?

    If Valerie Plame had been to the White House 157 times you people would have been (*)(*)(*)(*)ting fool's gold bricks, and you know it.
     
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    I see you are displaying the classic reaction of a delusional cult member when presented with evidence that their deepest held beliefs are just plain not true.
    Did you read the article, or just gloss over it?
    He was there with Obama three times, The Easter Egg Hunt, with 6000 other people, The Hanukkah reception with 690 other people, and his departure photo op, when a certain level of federal employee leaves his job he gets his picture taken with the president.
    Why does that always happen to you?
    You're thinking "Now we've got that Liberal bastard" , and then it turns out that what you believe just isn't true, it's been like that for a while hasn't it, all those WMDs in Iraq that weren't there, Reagan balancing the budget in 1984, if you go back that far, the huge recession that Clinton's tax increase was going to cause, and of course the terrible inflation the stimulus was going to cause, and the sky high interest rates we should be having right around now.
    Let alone Fast and Furious bringing down the administration, or Benghazi destroying Hillary Clinton's reputation, did you ever even try reality?
     
  24. Snappo

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    I don't think he knew. Nor do I think he knew about how out of control the NSA was or those loons were that sold machine guns to Mexican drug runners. OTOH, I think Reagan knew about Iran-Contra; and if he didn't get whacked for that then I am pretty sure nobody should get whacked for anything anymore. The POTUS office is a farce nowadays.
     
  25. Mayor Snorkum

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    No, the Atlantic confirmed that he visited the White House four times more often than any other flunky in the government. That the flunky met with people taking messages from the King rather meeting with the King Himself isn't surprising, after all, the flunky is white, the King isn't, and we all know what a racist the King is.

    It would have been different if the flunky was renting out the Lincoln Bedroom, the King worships money.
     

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