Here It Is Folks...Another Shooting!! Santa Monica College...Five Dead

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  1. Pardy

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    But their laws cant keep them out of the hands of criminals that use guns to enforce their criminal organizations.
    How do you think those 500 people died?
     
  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, just showing you where your ideal situation fails miserably I know will not change your mind. You are about as anti freedom as you can get. You seem to only understand the force of government against its own people and believe that is a good thing.
     
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    Tell that to the families of the dead.
    Oh, and guess what. Mass murder or just a murderous city. Dont trump my 2A rights.
     
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    Bullcookies, he'll get his due process, spare me the drama.
     
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    My opinion is that he's gonna swing......for nothing more complicated than a heavily invested state and administration can't brook the prospects of national scale LA riot scenario

    there, I said it.....and I would have never even considered such if Obama hadn't publicly weighed in,
    and the (would-be liable for slander/libel if he walks) alphabet press hadn't doctored evidence to support their "victim/oppressor" progressive dogma.
     
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    I agree that Obama should have kept those thoughts to himself.
     
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    Not exactly "fruit from a poisoned tree"....but having the President of The United States and national media very publicly choose sides....and "help" the narrative along.... before all the facts are known is definitely a disgusting effort to poison due process.

    I'd try to appeal any conviction on those grounds...."poisoned" jury pool, if you will.
     
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    The overall mass of murders in Chicago outnumbers all US mass shootings. Crappy city no matter how you spin it.
     
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    A gun control fans dream city.
     
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    I'd have to disagree with you on that. Gun grabbers have nice pleasant dreams of Utopia where they fart rainbows and unicorns all day. Like most dreams they diverge from reality greatly.:wink:
     
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    Did the national media miss this shooting?

    [video=youtube;SpkkHmRWkoM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SpkkHmRWkoM[/video]

    Cue Benny Hill Music at 00:20. :laughing:
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Chicago has no mass murders... period.
     
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    This person was not a mass murderer either. This is a spree killing. Happens every other day in Chicago.
    http://nation.time.com/2013/01/30/c...ed-at-obamas-inauguration-killed-in-shooting/
     
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    The overall mass of murders in Chicago outnumbers all US mass shootings.
    Having a hard time wrapping your head around that sentence?
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Chicago has no mass murders... period. No matter how you deflect or spin the truth, the fact still remains. The truth is awfully inconvenient at times, huh?
     
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    Wow, way to completely ignore everything I said. And I'm not surprised in the least by short sided ignorant responses that simplify issues of poverty to stupid claims. Poverty is the issue here, and it's not material poverty. Of course, most conservatives are too simple minded to understand these issues, as they live in fantasy lands devoid of empathy or any understanding that anyone might actually have grown up in a different environment with different parents, different feelings, and different possibilities than themselves. I mean "I was able to succeed, why shouldn't everyone", right? That ignores the fact that most had at least one if not two functional parents, simple luxuries, effective education, compassionate mentors, caring family, safe, hopefilled communities, and even the mere idea that standard behavior involved simple morals as a baseline standard. Just because you grew up in that environment does NOT mean everyone did. And before you blame people for their own problems, realize the systemic issues that have prevented that type of success from occurring in impoverished urban areas.

    Their poverty comes from broken families, physical and mental health issues, lack of quality education (both school systems AND "street" education), lack of justice, lack of self worth, lack of "others" worth, lack of community leadership and lack of realistic economic opportunity.

    If you want to know how areas like the gang filled areas in Chicago, LA, NY and others formed, look at a terrible combination of economic history perpetrated by both sides of the aisles. After civil rights, when social justice issues were broken down and policy attempted to equalize areas, leaders were put to work in urban areas with the idea of building infrastructure in urban areas. Those leaders had every potential to empower their communities to work themselves out of negative environments and break cycles of poverty. And then Johnson passed the Fair Housing Act in 1968. What the Fair housing act did was give people with means an opportunity to get out of dodge. People with means pretty much meant every capable leader in urban communities, black, white or yellow. Do you understand what happens in environments where the top 30-40% of an effective population (in intelligence, economic power, social leadership, and practical morals) leaves an area over a short period of time? Poverty happens, en masse, quickly. It's not a black or white thing, because plenty of quality effective black leaders left town too.

    Guess what, the same problem is happening slowly in "white" communities all over our country, and the same potential for future impoverished sprawls exists for Caucasians too. Every small town that doesn't have a community college, trade school or university suffers the same outcome. The top 40-50% (or greater) of their high school population will leave town to go to college somewhere and they will use those degrees to get jobs in places where college degrees are required to get jobs. Sure, a few will come back to their home towns for family businesses or occasional job openings, but the ratio of quality leaders leaving town to those coming back is far weighted against the future success of those towns. It's why more and more small towns are losing business owners (giving Walmart easy access to come in and make economies worse quickly), more families are breaking in small towns (no jobs, no solid examples of sound family structure, no support) and no initiative to make towns grow and flourish (every community needs leaders). This gap reduces the quality of schools (to put it simply, schools in those towns are becoming populated with more and more low education kids from low ed families that breed faster with more partners) and lowers the overall quality of education. This happens slower in small towns because the catalyst happens only to 18 year olds and only once a year. The housing act allowed a massive exodus from slums all at once in the late 60's and early 70's.

    Please try to learn what the problems in our society truly are and what caused them BEFORE quoting Fox News talking points. Just because they have no clue what they are saying doesn't mean you have to live that way too.
     
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    Wow, no mention of illegitimacy? Why?
     
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    [video=youtube;byEkJ3zRTcY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byEkJ3zRTcY[/video]

    00:52

    That's as crazy as 6 minute abs.
     
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    [sarcasim on] those darn guns are out of control, they need to be stopped by legislation and restrictions, and they should be imprisoned for enticeing unsuspecting human beings who are utterly unaware that they (guns) are evil and will cause them to act in ways they (human beings) would not other wise act if guns were not around [sarcasim off]
     
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    Pure BS, it is not poverty but culture. People have been poor before and not shot up the neighborhood. Your arrogance is appalling.
     

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