Slaton police arrest woman after request to see warrant

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  1. AceFrehley

    AceFrehley New Member

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    Amen to that. I cannot fathom how a person requesting to see a warrant can be construed as interfering with a law enforcement officer. What other reason would they be carrying the warrant (yes, I know there really wasn't a warrant in this case) if not to show the person being served legitimate legal consent?
     
  2. AceFrehley

    AceFrehley New Member

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    The thing is, the police have already offered to apologize. That would indicate they realize they did something wrong. So yes, I will feel sorry for a woman wrongly arrested and hope she gets justice.
     
  3. smallblue

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    How about the fact that there are no criminal charges were filed against her? Sure sounds to me like nothing she did was illegal.
     
  4. AceFrehley

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    How is the kids' alleged wrongdoing, guilt or innocence relevant?
     
  5. Nunya D.

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    How was she "rightfully hauled to jail" just because she asked to see the warrant? There is a reason that warrants are written on paper.....so that they can be read to verify that the arrest is within current laws. Unless a criminal is arrested at the crime scene or shortly afterwards, a warrant is paramount and required.

    http://www.quizlaw.com/criminal_law/when_is_a_warrant_required.php
     
  6. nom de plume

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    Cops everywhere are increasingly becoming bullies with badges. It's a trend and attitude which is spreading.

    The chief of police (and the county sheriff) in this medium-sized city where I now reside, issued public statements asking for citizens to be more cooperative and respectful for law officers. The somewhat rambling statement pointed out that too many citizens make fun of cops, hassle, aggravate; make wisecracks; insult; and love to tell them that they (citizen taxpayers) pay their meager salaries.

    The chief said he has concluded that the only way for his officers to get respect from citizens is for cops to maintain a more aggressive and intimidating attitude when dealing with the public who act like children. He warned that his officers will arrest citizens and ask questions later ... and lawsuits for police brutality be damned!

    Ironically enough, the new police attitude works. When cops pull them over or come to their homes, the citizens are as meek as little mice.
     
  7. JoeSixpack

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    Actually they offered to apologize if she dropped the suit.

    Ooooor... the DA determined that the offense wasn't serious enough to pursue matters further.

    We are not getting the entire story here.
     
  8. Angedras

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    ...meanwhile, little Angel is next door setting fire to the neighbors cat (again).


    What?!
     
  9. Nunya D.

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    Then they should get an actual arrest warrant per law and arrest him before another cat gets withing catching distance.

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    I agree that we might not be getting the entire story.

    However, no matter what transpired when the police went to arrest the boy, they were still REQUIRED to obtain an arrest warrant BEFORE arresting somebody in their home.
     
  10. perdidochas

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    I think short-term it will work. Long-term, it's going to bite the chief in the butt.
     
  11. bomac

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    Of course, Obama has not violated the Constitution. You try to link Obama to a right wing attitude. Not everything that happens is Obama's fault.

    Oh, oh, here comes the "not me!" reply.
     
  12. nom de plume

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    It might, but I doubt it. He's been doing this for about two years. And surprisingly, relations between the cops and the public have vastly improved. The relationship has become very formal, reserved and cold. No more donut remarks and wisecracks about the Keystone Cops. Everyone treats each other with almost patronizing respect -- Yes sir, yes ma'am, here's your ticket sir, thank you and have a nice day. Thank you mister officer.
     
  13. Wolfpack

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    Indicates to me that they just want the whole thing to go away. Maybe they even regret their action, but I'm just not seeing any gross abuse of authority.

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    You're joking right? That's your logic?? "There were no charges filed, therefore she did nothing wrong??"

    I really wonder what color the sky is on the world some of you are living. A world where your home protects you from arrest.
     
  14. Wolfpack

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    If that kid punched some other kid in the face and kicked that other kid on the ground while he was bleeding, then I'm sure an awful lot of self-righteous hypocrites in here would be singing a different tune.

    Newsflash: If you're trying to argue the police abused their authority, you sure look silly defending someone who is guilty.

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    Because, despite your misinterpretation of something you stumbled upon after doing a google search, police don't need a warrant to arrest someone. So she was rightfully hauled away by interfering with the police doing their duty.
     
  15. AceFrehley

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    Thanks for clarifying/correcting me. We definitely don't have the whole story. However, as cops go, if they're offering to apologize under any circumstances, I think it's safe to say they (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up pretty badly.
     
  16. Angedras

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    Good, bad or indifferent, there's no ignoring this...


    "The complainant said she was aware police would be coming to apprehend her 11-year-old son, based on a criminal complaint."



    ...or maybe there is. As it seems I and one other, are the only ones to notice it.


    Maybe society should continue to make excuses for the increasing growth of malicious and/or violent behavior of American youth. While constantly whining about the dreaded "police state".

    Yeah, that's the ticket! Instead of actually addressing the problem, let attack the very ones tasked with facing the result of the problem. Nevermind considering why their reaction/tactics have become more quick and aggressive.


    (( Police State )) ... (( The sky is falling ))


    ... "Hello, can you sent the police right away? A group of teens are burning my car and throwing bricks through my windows! ... but send the peaceful cops, I'd rather the teens be asked to stop, than actually thrown on the ground and their asses cuffed."

    ..."Gotta go now Mr 911 Operator, I'm gonna bake cupcakes for the kids."


    Damn (bully) cops!
     
  17. RP12

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    She wasnt under arrest. There was no warrant which is why they must have gotten pissed offf when asked to read it. You cant get arrested for asking to see a warrant. You also cant get arrested for not doing anythign wrong but in this case i guess you can.... And you see nothing wrong with it? Well i hope you dont run across a cop like this one or you will be singing a different tune i am sure.

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    No...... Arrest....... Warrant.....
     
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    He's not a ":liberal". He's an authoritarian. He wants "contempt of cop" to be punished with death by torture and dreams of being the next Josef Stalin. It really is that simple.
     
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    In that case, the right way to handle these cops is with a good deer rifle from 500+ yards away.
     
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    More like 1938 Germany.

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    Or she settles for $1 if all officers involved are fired immediately and blacklisted for life!

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    The most dangerous street gang in the country is the police.
     
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    No...... Arrest....... Warrant..... Necessary.....
     
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    I suspect Berliners treated the Gestapo with respect, also. SIEG HEIL, MEIN FUHRER!
     
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    You are wrong. You do know they went back and got a Warrant dated the following day to try to cover their tracks right ;). I can almost understand some people wanting to live in a police state its the ignorant that drive me crazy. :wall:
     
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    Too bad the officer simply didn't explain this brief fact to the woman (IF true) instead of going from zero to sixty in one single instant!
    Merely asking to see a warrant is obstruction? Perhaps in East Germany or China...not here supposedly.
     

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