Rand Paul alone against spying, aka Why I am not a Republican

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  1. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    No. If he gets the Republican nomination he'll win because no Republican will vote Democrat just to keep Rand out. He has the support of millenials. He'll take the military like his dad. It will be enough to tip it since Obama lost the youth support and looks to keep it lost.
     
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    I'm saying he doesn't have a shot at the GOP nomination, he inherits his father's support AND his opposition.
    If the Paul family message had any appeal to Democrats it would have shown up in 2012, when there wasn't a contested Democratic primary, and if the Paul Family message had deep resonance in the GOP Ron would have done better, especially against the lineup of clowns that 2012 brought to the table.
    Obama isn't running in 2016, and I don't think it will be Hillary, I'm thinking the party finds a dynamic youthful candidate, maybe a female.
    If Rand is on the ballot in 2016 it won't be as a republican, and it will be good news for the party of the people.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    The Democrats wouldn't know fresh and youthful. They are just as locked in as Republicans. They don't even understand why millennials are going towards the libertarians.
     
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    60% of the millennials voted for Obama, I'd say the Democrats understand youth pretty well.
     
  5. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    At the end because their choice was Romney. All polls prior showed Ron Paul in the lead, and polls now show they like Rand Paul.

    Stay current, dude.

    http://www.policymic.com/articles/3...arianism-is-the-hot-new-thing-for-millennials

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Libertarian-Millennials/573345629356334

    http://collegeinsurrection.com/2013...g-to-become-the-great-libertarian-generation/

    http://www.onesixtyfourth.com/millennials-and-libertarian-ideals/

    However, we have only just begun truly defining what the second wave, or more accurately the “youthful wave” of libertarianism represents. All throughout the weekend of ISFLC13, the pervading message from the Bleeding Heart Libertarians panel, panels highlighting women and black libertarian history, Magatte Wade’s rousing Sunday keynote, LearnLiberty’s focus on telling your personal story, and Jeff Tucker’s renewed optimism for the future, issued a vision for what a newly-conceived youthful wave of libertarianism could possibly look and sound like. How it would craft stories and appeal to sentiment as well as quantitative data, and how it could engage culture in a deliberate way. The youthful wave of libertarianism thinks in the terms of social entrepreneurship, is aware of the importance of building a brand, and has come of age in a world where the Internet has made the human act of creation easier than it has ever been before. -
     
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    Yeah, my wife thought Ricky Martin was straight too. :laughing:

    That's the work that those Soro's hoods are going to do. They are going to dig. That's my point.
     
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    Just because they don't have power over people like you in no way means that they are wrong. We are but mere voices crying in the wilderness.

    I have no illusions that our cause will prevail. At best, it may get a few to think for themselves for the first time in their lives.

    So tell me, do you have no qualms about the government knowing everything about you? Do you have any qualms with the governments ability to detain you indefinitely without legal representation under the provisions of the NDAA?

    In other words, do you have a pulse?
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Okay, but how could it possibly be worse than bisexual dude who did blow that couldn't stand up for gays until he needed their voting block and prosecutes drug users like he's a Puritan?

    Obama's got more skeletons in his tightly locked closet than the Smithsonian.

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    Please don't feed it. It just makes it stick around. :)
     
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    Sure, young people will show up, and you'll have dedicated young Libertarians, but on election day the youth vote will be overwhelmingly Democratic.
    60% voted for Obama, they didn't vote for Ron Paul when they had the chance, they didn't register as Republicans to vote for Ron Paul.
    Sure you can point to signs, but the numbers just aren't there.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    I would go into how the primary system works to answer you, but I don't feel like it. It should just be something people know if posting on a political forum.

    Sure. Everyone loves Obama. Keep on thinking that. ((thumbs up))
     
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    Are you really reading my posts? It's not about being worse, it's about the mainstream media's agenda. That's why Obama was largely unvetted by the media and Rand Paul would be subjected to oh say the Romney "dog in a car top carrier" story for a week. Do you understand the difference now?
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Yep, except that they already have started in on Rand after the filibuster and there's not much to show. Plus it's that time for a party switch. Every party gets two terms and then people vote them out--especially when there is no progressive fix for this economy.
     
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    Out of 545 "representatives" and "leaders"......435 in the House, 100 in the Senate, 9 on the Supreme Court, and 1 in the White House...
    only a small child's handful are concerned with staunchly protecting the natural rights and liberties of the governed.

    No free people can expect to remain free in such an environment.
     
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    Yes...."understand" how to pander to the divisive "victim / oppressor" Hegelian Dialectic.....

    Not for nothing, but progressive politicians and political hopefuls spend inordinate amounts of time spreading their "them and they" propaganda on college campuses...which have gone so far in their complicity as to block right-wing speaking engagements.

    I'm given to believe when the conditioned yoots are still unemployed...or woefully underemployed... after racking up tens of thousands in student loans in pursuit of their pedigrees, the sands will shift.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Bernie is on my good list this week, too. It would be nice if they teamed up and supported both of the other's proposals.
     
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    Have you never heard of the Republican party before? They eat their young, and ANYONE that defies any directive of the Grand ole White guys groups, whether because of general common sense or crazy way out there ideas, both of which ole Randy has in spades. He can't win a GOP nomination if every single other nominee died the morning of the primary. This is the party that would consider Ronald Reagan a RINO if he ran today. Paul won't line up and play nice in a primary, so neither will the voting bloc. He has about as much chance of winning the primary as I do.
     
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    This is why Rand Paul really needs to be the GOP nominee in 2016. We need someone with principle, not another empty suit like Romney.
     
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    It says much about the issue that a socialist and libertarian are both working to end NSA spying on innocent citizens.
     
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    That's because issues like this are bipartisan, or at least should be. There's a few Obama apologists on this forum that still can't seem to hold him or his administration accountable, though.
     

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