Everyone That Wants A Job Should Have One

come next week when the unemployed start getting cuts in the benefits they may try to get a real job..but good luck... there isnt much out there in most states..McDonalds has enough burger flippers already

 

I don't mind blaming the Right for requiring an Iron Age work ethic without a morals test instead of bearing true witness to our own laws regarding employment at will.

 

Employers and the economy don't set the wages...the workers determine wages based on supply and demand.

If a farm laborer earns $12/hour and you and others feel they should be paid $24/hour, in 'reality' how could this possibly be achieved without horrific inflation? Don't forget if you bump the low end of the pay scale by 100% you'll eventually need to bump the entire pay scale by 100%. Those only capable or willing to earn lower wages, even at $24/hour, will still be on the bottom of the economy with the same complaints.

Haven't you ever worked for someone? No matter what your wage might have been, if you told your employer you wanted a 100% increase what might they say? I can guess they will say adios buddy because they can find lots of people willing to take your place. AS long as lots of people are willing to take someone else's place, or compete for fewer jobs, the wages are going to remain low. Look at the other end of the pay scale and assume an average doctor earns $150K and everyone qualified to be a doctor can find a job...then magically create another 5 million workers who are also qualified to be a doctor, all of which will be competing for those current doctor jobs, except one will say I'll work for $140K, then another will say I'll work for $120K, then another for $75K, and so on until everyone who desires a job has a job.

So, IMO, the ONLY way for a person to increase their earnings, to have more purchasing power, is for that person to personally take steps to gain more training and education in order to increase their value in the workplace.

Lastly, every penny spent in the economy, whether it be by homeless people or billionaires, trickles in every direction and energizes the economy...

 

ok one problem if we keep printing money like you are saying we should do the price of money will go down and america will become bankrupt.

 

Aye a cul de sac of ones own making.

If you restrict money supply, you decide the economic position and policies that will immediately follow this decision.

Doesn't matter what the farm labour wants, the result is pushing wages down.

A loaf of bread costs the millionaire the same as the farm labourer, but only one eats there fill when restrictions are place on the money supply.

Regards
High

Highlander,

 

Does the fact that someone exists gives them the right to food and shelter?
Or are we going to be a country that says (*)(*)(*)(*) those who can't take care of themselves, let them starve?

 

What you and others don't seem to understand is that employers cannot arbitrarily decide the wages for all workers. If we have far more supply of a particular worker skill then the wages for that skill are going to be lower. The problem you perceive is not an employer problem but a supply and demand problem. We have an economy which cannot provide a job for everyone in every square inch of the country. The bottom line never changes; if a person desires higher income then that person alone needs to make it happen with more training or education or relocation plus hard work and luck. IMO as I have stated many many times, the economy is a separate entity from society and government. The economy is going to respond to demand of it's goods and services and whatever this outcome it may or may not agree with demands from society and government...

 

Please define why people 'can't take care of themselves'? What are some examples of people in this group?

 

Promoting the general welfare should require a positive multiplier effect.

 

I agree.

The single largest employing entity in the United States is SMALL BUSINESS.

Small Business accounts for 80% of all jobs in the United States and does anyone know how much money either party has earmarked to help small businesses?

ZERO $

What the Federal Government has provided is a impossible and ridiculous program that would enable Small Business owners to get low interest loans with a criteria that is IMPOSSIBLE TO MEET!

Both Republicans and Democrats are to blame for this lack of support of the countries LARGEST EMPLOYER.

Yet BILLIONS of Dollars are spent either giving free money to Big Corps. or creating Government Jobs that DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO GROW THE ECONOMY.

AboveAlpha

 

I believe that our current dilemma of poverty in our republic is a simple moral failure to bear true witness to our own laws regarding employment at will. Therefore, poverty cannot be an Individual problem but an Institutional problem.

 

Me. I wasn't before but now I am.
I lost my job 2 months ago. I don't get unemployment because I was an independant contractor and I'm about to run out of credit. I live with my sister who gets $500 a month in child support, $500 a month in food stamps, and sometimes makes as much as $500 a month graphic design. She can't get a job because She has these fibers in her uterous that are causing her to be low on iron and has to be surgically removed. She can't get the operation because they have to deal with her Lupus first which is causing her to be low on Hemogoblin. She also has Asthma and almost died the last time they operated on her. Well technically she did die, they brought her back. She has two kids. Also my retired mother lives with us she makes $900 a month on retirement and can't get a job because she's old and feeble. I'm willing to take any job offered me even a labor intensive job, which I couldn't not handle being I weigh 350 pounds and am 50 years old myself who have never done labor in the past 19 years of working in the same job. The field I was in is obsolete, replaced by the internet. I was a courier for Bank of America. As I already stated I will attempt to work any job I'm offered and give it my 100% but nobody is offering me a job. I'm hooked up with like 8 different online employment places which all have the same jobs listed, rarely is one unique above the others. I check the want ads of every paper in the county every day and I apply for every job I'm semi qualified for. My sister lost her food stamps because they wanted additional information from her and didn't tell her they wanted additional information from her so cut her off when she didn't provide what they didn't tell her she needed to supply. Yes we have the luxury of having the internet and cable in our home. Cancelling it would provide food for us for a week and remove my ability to look online for work and my sisters ability to work online in her graphic design so it isn't really a luxury.

Anyhow I have one credit card left to fill up and then something isn't getting paid. I'm responsible for half the rent and to help out with the groceries and to help out pay a cable or electric bill if my sister had a bad month and didn't make much that particular month. I haven't made a car payment in two months. I got them pushed off to the end of the bill. I need to find a job now so that I have a paycheck before my credit runs out and a bill doesn't get paid. Finding a job later after I've used up all my credit would get things turned off and make it impossible to live her or to drive to work.

I'm not one of the helpless ones who need a handout. I'm a Republican but my family shouldn't have to be homeless and starving simply because I lived up to my ideals and let them starve. I can't rob a bank, everybody knows me, no mask would cover up my stomach. So I'm left with no options. No handouts means no life.


Warning: this thread, even though I am subscribed to it, is not sending me email messages when somebody posts something new to it. I don't know why it's just is. I do get message when I'm quoted which is a different notification but it's grouped with a bunch of other emails saying I've been quoted so it's easy to overlook this one. There is no guarantee I will see your reply much less be able to reply to your reply.

 

Not sure what government can do for small business except get out of the way? At local government levels the environmental and use permit fees have become too expensive for many start ups...

 

First, I have reported your concern about not receiving email notices when someone posts to a thread which you are subscribed. I have the same problem so it's not a 'you' problem.

It's interesting to me that private contractors and others outside of normal employment cannot buy unemployment insurance? Can't remember the cost but it was very cheap! This would be one thing government can help with is to extend this service to 'all' workers.

Sorry about your current situation but stay focused, network with anyone and everyone, let everyone you know that you are looking for work. Personally, I would avoid online job seeking and just walk in the front door of businesses that interest me. Maybe you can use your skills to continue contract work or other business ideas that just require your labor and simple equipment/materials? Maybe also work as a volunteer to keep busy, to network, and maybe turns into a paid job.

IMO government can't do much for you since they don't provide health care (except Medicaid and soon Obamacare), and government doesn't have much to do with the private sector. Are you checking government jobs in your area?

The reason I asked the original question was to discuss what government should or can do versus what people believe government should do? Because when we know what government will do, then we know what each of us must do in cases where government can't help us.

Lastly, thank you for your candid response and I wish you the best...

 

Have you considered selling drugs; you can always blame the Right for requiring an Iron Age work ethic instead of the morality of bearing true witness to our own laws regarding employment at will, and unemployment compensation.

 

The Federal Reserve can print "unlimited" amounts of money? What does a $300 Big Mac taste like? Exactly like a $4 one!

 

Wanting a job and being able to perform a job are very different. Many people want to work but are simply not qualified to do what they want. That is their fault and their fault alone...assuming no medical issues. Many other people don't want to work and are just lazy bums. They do not DESERVE a damn thing and I shouldn't have to pay a dime to take care of them. Others want jobs but are so stupid or irresponsible, they can't understand why they can't hold onto a job and always find fault in others for their inadequacies.

 

Wow, you're really up against it. I hope you get a break soon.

As you mentioned, you have several things working against you. Your weight is a major problem. It's going to be very hard to get a meaningful job when you weigh 350 pounds. That's just a fact of life. And being 50 years old is also a liability. Plus you live in Florida.

You may like being a Repub but it's not in your best interest to continue down that road. Under the Repub blueprint you will soon be living with the alligators and fighting them for something to eat. Voting against your own self interests isn't smart. If you had some major assets I could see it but from what you have written your prospects are slim. Therefore you should go with the party that at least claims to be willing to help you survive.

 

I am sorry to hear about your situation and I hope things get better for you. I'll send a prayer your way.

What would Batman say to a post like that?

[video=youtube;d63kBMqxxCI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d63kBMqxxCI[/video]

 

Do you really think that you and your family members are immune to those assorted misfortunes of life? Whatever you think you have could be gone in less than a minute.

As it says in Ecclesiastes 9:11-12 (CEB) = [SUP]"11 [/SUP]I also observed under the sun that the race doesn’t always go to the swift, nor the battle to the mighty, nor food to the wise, nor wealth to the intelligent, nor favor to the knowledgeable, because accidents can happen to anyone.[SUP]12 [/SUP]People most definitely don’t know when their time will come. Like fish tragically caught in a net or like birds trapped in a snare, so are human beings caught in a time of tragedy that suddenly falls to them."

 

In the case of an accident, sure. If I lose my hands or sight, I'm sort of screwed. But if its my professional life, I have almost cmoplete control over my success, barring an economic meltdown or zombie Apocalypse=)

 

Is it still a job, if someone doesn't pay you to do it?
Even when you're unemployed there is always a way to make yourself useful, like growing a garden, or keeping up with local / state issues.

 

I want to be a Male Pornstar.

 

And volunteering! Volunteering is a great way to network and keep busy and serve those in need. But...most volunteer organizations I know about are struggling to find volunteers? Guess it's easier to sit at home and watch TV for weeks, months or years...

 

Liquor store clerk for 7.79 an hour and they think they won't steal a drink.
Tow truck driver for 8 bucks an hour.
How are these people supposed to pay the rent without welfare? How are these jobs not meant for folks with families. What are we supposed to do, starve?