Racist display in 4th of July parade.

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  1. Satori

    Satori New Member

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    There's been a lot of discussion about whether the confederate flag, watermelons, etc., are racist. This seems like an exercise in futility. After all, which symbols express racism is a subjective factor determined by an individual's unique experiences. We have no way of knowing whether that man driving the tractor was intentionally being racist or was just a southerner who is intensely proud of their confederate heritage. If I had to guess I'd say it's probably the former but it's actually irrelevant.

    What we ought to be discussing is whether non-violent racist "speech" should be protected by the first amendment.

    I am not a racist. All races deserve equal treatment under the law. This seems obvious to me and I deplore anyone who believes otherwise. However, I believe all people of all races have the right to express themselves however they choose (non-violently and non-threateningly of course). This man, as ignorant and bigoted as he may be, has the right to be as offensive as he wants, just like all Americans.

    In the end, the only harm he did was to peoples' feelings, and if stereotypes are to be believed, to his watermelon sales.
     
  2. The12thMan

    The12thMan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I understood him perfectly. He pities black people. The demographics of his town would suggest that he doesn't know many of them. He wouldn't know this but once they show up at your family reunion, you really do stop taking notice of their skin color.
     
  3. goober

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    You say you understand, but then you go on in a way that says you just didn't get it.
     
  4. Enemy Country OGS

    Enemy Country OGS New Member

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    Still waiting on an answer from libhater?
     
  5. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    Southerns displaying the confederate flag is offense for reasons that can, but do not always include racism. For me, it's the hypocricy that many southerns display when they bash Mexican imigrants who waving mexican flags, instead of the US flag, when they do the same thing with the confederate flag. Most claim that displaying the confederate flag is to honor their heritage, but they turn around and bash others for the same thing.
     
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    I'm confused. Aren't watermelons on every African flag?
     
  7. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    About 98% of the reasons say the Confederate flag is offensive is, in one way or another, racism.

    As far as what you talk about, I can see that with *some*, but in general I don't think that's hypocrisy. Southerner's are American in the same sense that Scots are British. They are but, no matter how you cut it, they are a conquered nation that has to some degree or another always wanted it's independence (that's a minority in both now, but the point is still valid).

    If we were to conquer Canada, there'd be a difference between former Canadians displaying their maple leaf flag and former Mexicans who immigrated to America displaying theirs. And again, as I said, I can see what you're saying in some cases. There are some legitimate hypocrites in that sense, but that is far from limited to the South.
     
  8. Taxcutter

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    If everything is racist, then nothing is racist.
     
  9. JavisBeason

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    Racist flag... lulz....

    it's people like you that were all on board with making Georgia change their state flag from this....

    [​IMG] because of the rebel flag [​IMG] was too offensive.


    yet the new GA flag [​IMG] isn't offensive even though it looks a LOT like the OFFICIAL CONFEDERATE FLAG [​IMG]


    politically correct masses THINKING they won that battle in GA when really they showed how truly ignorant they are with their hypersensitivity.


    like I said... lulz



    you are only "offended" by the rebel flag because you were told to think it's offensive, you really don't know why you are offended.
     
  10. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    I wonder if the Confederate flag is like yet another Rorschach test, to see if an American is what they would describe as a "progressive".
     
  11. JavisBeason

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    the battle in Ga in the early 2000's really showed who actually understood history, and who did not. Georgia gave the NAACP, and every politically correct fool out there, a big F-U by not only suggesting the new flag, but getting it approved. lol

    if you are truly offended by the rebel flag, the new flag should be as equally as offensive to you..... well, unless you really didn't understand what the flags really represented and just simply repeated the rhetoric by the NAACP


    Black pride - ok
    White pride - racist



    I saw another double standard on pinterest today....

    [​IMG]

    but I bet if Hershey's came up with a slogan "chocolate so dark, it won't pay child support" there would be calls for boycotts, lawsuits and accusations that if you continued to eat Hershey's, you're a racist (much like people who continue to eat Chic-fil-a must be ignorant homophobes)


    I don't know if the toothpaste ad I uploaded is real or not, but it doesn't matter. People have no problems perpetuating the white, you can't dance, stereotype, but stereotyping blacks don't pay child support is an unforgivable sin.
     
  12. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    It should be called Hillbilly month since the whites that won the war were progressives and progressives don't drive tractors with confederate flags selling watermelons on "white history month". I don't think anyone would mind Hillbilly Month. Would be like admitting you are an uneducated racist conservative.
     
  13. JavisBeason

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    much like anyone that supported the new ga flag should admit they are a hypersensitive ignorant tool that merely gets offended by what they are told to get offended by, and doesn't understand why
     
  14. EdSpiezio

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    by your logic that would mean black history month is racist to whites
     
  15. JavisBeason

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    Close.... I think both should be allowed and given equal playtime.

    As it sits, black history month - ok
    White history month - racist

    If its ok for one, it should be ok for all..... or if its racist for one group, it should be considered racist for all.

    Hypocritical stances are what I can't stand
     
  16. Enemy Country OGS

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    I agree with you that its high time Whites were not stereo typed either. You cant have it both ways.
     
  17. Enemy Country OGS

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    I'm sorry but has libhater left this site? I'm still waiting for my answer. Are White nationalist views accepted by the Tea Party?
     
  18. JavisBeason

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    Stereotyping black males as having huge penises - ok
    Stereotyping black males as deadbeat dads - bad

    Stereotyping - unforgiveable sin that should lead tobyour financial ruin if you so much as think it (unless what you say is flattering)
     
  19. ThirdTerm

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    Donnie Spell happens to be a watermelon farmer and the local authorities were told the sign would read, "Watermelons for sale", when he applied for for a parade permit. It could be a failed attempt at humour rather than a political statement, which is very fitting for his family name that means a tumbler or jester.
     

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