Why are Muslim nations socialist?

To socialists.

You are inherently evil. You will always create evil. It is that simple.

 

What makes a country socialist?

 

Attempting to achieve socialism because socialism cannot be achieved. Attempting to achieve socialism brings only death and misery.

Attempting to achieve socialism is analogous to attempting to travel faster than the speed of light. We theoretically know what should happen when you get there but there is a paradox in getting there. Of course millions don't die when scientists try and fiddle around with faster than light travel so I have no problem with them fiddling. Socialists however kill millions so I do have a very big problem with them fiddling.

 

They aren't inherently evil, they just don't understand reality. There's a difference. I'd just call them naïve.

 

Anyone who has red Marx's writings especially on the necessity of terror would disagree.

 

socialists aren't necessarily marxist I believe. There's different schools, marxism is one of them.

 

It's really very simple.... they don't need a free market. They run socialist economies by in large but it's all paid for with oil revenue. It's kind of an anomaly and will unfortunately run out. When it does they will have very little to fall back on and revert back to a completely tribal society. Right now a graduating student in Qatar gets a free house as long as he builds it according to code. He gets a free education anywhere in the world ect ect. That's all great and I definitely think they should be spending their money on education. However the problem is each citizen also gets a check for oil revenue and there is very little need for advancement. When the oil/natural gas money is gone every single investment made into education and housing will disappear.

It's possible the Arab world will rebound and find an economic system that works for them. But no highly socialist nation has ever performed well on a long enough timeline. Whatever happens it will have to change radically and fast because as some point or another a new source or use of energy will cut them off. It will happen relatively quickly because as the price of oil reaches a certain point people in free market societies around the world will start finding ways to adapt.

That's really the biggest benefit to free market societies. They are highly adaptable to changing conditions because nearly everything is decentralized. We don't have that type of society as of now but culturally we still act like Americans. Guys like Steve Jobs still go out and build personal PC's in their garage and change the way the world works. It's becoming more and more difficult to do that.... but we still do.

BTW this information came from a conversation with a friend from Qatar. He was literally dumbfounded when I asked what they would do when the oil/natural gas money was gone. He honestly hadn't thought of it. Which is exactly why the middle east will probably burn when oil reserves run low. The Western nations will again have to step in and provide stability to keep the black gold flowing.

 

Umm that makes no sense, I think you cut and paste the wrong answer to my question. So I will ask again, What makes a country Socialist?

 

Mm, What a paragon of evil those leftist Spaniards were in the 30's. Can't believe Orwell went to fight with them against the Fascists. He of all people should've known better.

Honestly sir, what on earth are you talking about?

 

Control freaks. Like the left here.

 

They are not socialist, they are totalitarian.

 

A free market was tried in Iraq by L. Paul Bremer and it sucked beyond belief!

 

Yeah the Red Terror never happened in Spain. But I will grant you 70,000 murdered is a very low number for socialists so its like it never happened at all.

 

Socialists are totalitarian.

Every single last one of them. They are evil people who immediately resort to totalitarianism when things don't go their way. Noble cause corruption can be applied to every single socialist.

 

Socialists make a country socialists. Theoretical socialism will never exist as a form of government. It cant be achieved. So socialism is reduced to attempts at socialism and the various Frankenstein monsters born from the minds evil people who attempt it.

 

There are hordes of ways of governing besides free market capitalism and big government socialism. I can think of no Muslim nation that has a big government socialist system, but there are numerous forms of non-free market governments in the Muslim nations of the World.

 

Yes you also have syndicalists. But that their stated ideology didn't stop them from resorting to terror in Spain when things didn't go their way. Socialism only appeals to people who have a fundamental evil within them. When things dont go their way they will start killing people.

 

"Why are Muslim nations socialist?"

Taxcutter says:
Because they cannot fathom anything else.

 

You don't believe there exists good-hearted naïve fools that doesn't understand how reality works and that in some way have been persuaded by the noble goals of equality and freedom which socialism claims it stands for?

 

lol at this coming from an American. You economy would (and does) collapse without socialist principles.

 

And what would those be?

 

The state sector for one thing. The "market" can't survive without it.

 

And what would the state sector do?

Also, keep in mind that any state interference in the economy isn't necessarily socialist.

 

Could you rephrase?

Indeed. It is, however, in the case of America.

 

You said the state sector was one of the socialist principles. I asked what it would do. And how big will it be.

No. I don't see much production in the hands of the workers. do you? Current america is corporatist.