Israel Teaches The EU a Lesson They Won't Soon Forget

If the situation disintegrates into one where you are isolated from Europe in trade, where no entertainers come to visit you, where you are banned from all sporting events, where you academics must leave Israel because academics must be involved in the international academic community or they lose their standing. If or when all that happens do you think the people you have in mind to do trade with will not be boycotting you too?

Oil depends on markets and you cannot sell it all at once. Do you think this will make up for all you will lose? Eastern Europe is mainly part of the EU and will follow the EU. Far East who are you meaning?

 

I dont think it will come to that, Israel is already in the process of having the negotiations, our gov even approved the release of 104 murders for Abu Mazen so if something goes wrong I dont think it will be just Israel fault and Israel will not be scapegoat for that, putting pressure on Israel doesnt mean attempting to break it. I think you are going too far with this.

 

Not yet it didn't- and even if it does the ' gesture ' will be transpicious. The world is very much alert to Zionist skullduggery these days.

 

Yes, that is what 972 believes the peace talks are about. Using propaganda to get Israel off the sanctions one state agenda

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...-peace-talks-resumption-3.html#post1062925169

 

It did approve it today, the Israeli Arab are the only ones in question, making such demands and scorning them once fulfilled is the face of our enemies.

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So you are against negotiations for the fear it will fail ? makes sense.......

 

stop being disingenuous. I refer you to my post here. http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...-peace-talks-resumption-4.html#post1062925413

I saw no point in making the same post to you twice and that post which you have not replied to came before this one.

 

Even though Egypt is a sovereign country, we give them gazillions in money and tech. aid, notwithstanding them killing and raping each other silly; Why should we waste a second catering to them?

 

According to Israeli newspapers this is tripe.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.538305

 

Israel is to free 104 terrorists so Kerry can take the credit for the resumption of “direct talks,” but what will be on the agenda? Peace? Recognizing Israel? No. The PA will talk about a timetable for talks.

Israel is to free 104 terrorists so Kerry can take the credit for the resumption of “direct talks,” but what will be on the agenda? Peace? Recognizing Israel? No. The PA will talk about a timetable for talks.
Talk is not cheap: Netanyahu wants to free 104 terrorists, and then Abbas is willing to talk about talking

The Number One item on the agenda this week at the scheduled resumption of direct talks between the Palestinian Authority and Israel is nothing more than setting a timetable for continuing talks and deciding what will be discussed.

The following items are not on the agenda: Jerusalem, final borders, the Arab demands for flooding Israel with foreign Arabs claiming Israel as their home, incitement, recognizing Israel as a Jewish state and the status of Jews in a future PA state.

The script is a replay of hundreds of previous Israeli “goodwill gestures” to save the political life of chairman Mahmoud Abbas.

• Israel removed roadblocks, and the Palestinian Authority continues to incite.
• Israel removed checkpoints, and Palestinian Authority terrorists use the opening to shoot and kill Jews.
• Israel released more than 1,000 terrorists to bring back home kidnapped Gilad Shalit, and dozens of the terrorists went back to their pastime of attacking Jews.

This time around. Israel is receiving nothing by talk.

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/isr...t-talk-for-freeing-104-terrorists/2013/07/28/

The history repeats itself...

 

Why four stages are tripe ? we dont want to release murderers just so the Palestinians will blow things up the next day, its a price we are willing to pay for REAL negotiations and only time can tell that.

 

"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s cabinet on Sunday approved his decision to release 104 Palestinian prisoners who have been held in Israeli prisons since before the implementation of the 1993..."
What percentage of those 104 prisoners have been convicted of any crime?
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.538305

 

None, we just threw a net in an Arab village and captured them, why ?

 

Did you raze it afterwards ? What did you change its name to ?

 

Megido prison, MEGIDO like in its original Hebrew Biblical name. that's where all murderers go.

 

It's going to be mighty crowded in there then, when we get your IOF in the dock.

 

Well the EU is correct in their move to not recognise the claim Israel have on these two areas.

This is high brinkmanship to be sure from Israel!

How many or when was the last time Israel had to assist Europe with a military action. Uhm let me see zero.

The times that Europe has allowed weapons and logistical support from within its borders to fend of Arab assualts on Israel or to protect Israel from potential attack, about 6 I can think of the last one being the invasion of Iraq where Saddam had threatened the use of missiles against Israel.

As we all know Israel should not exist, their land was the Palestinians and it was given to the Jewish refugees by three leaders who had no right to take that action. However Israel is here to stay and even most Palestinians realise this by now so Israel even acknowledgeing this announcement has ramifications which could be significant in the future.

 

"The Balfour Declaration (dated 2 November 1917) was a letter from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Baron Rothschild (Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild), a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland..."

"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine..."

Remember?

 

The name itself doesnt suggest a state if you hint on that, its the name of the land area, it also was changed from the original - Judea - remember ?


Not disturbing the rights of others does not mean the others have any special rights over your own rights, the Arabs dont get to chose IF Jews can live there, in any case the towns were built during the Ottoman regime = consent from the only power in the area.

 

the Jews violated the Balfour and Palestine Mandate stipulations about non-Jewish rights in Palestine and continue these violations today.

 

Newsflash, when arab armies invaded newly formed Israel with the explicit goal of wiping it off the map and driving the Jews into the sea all bets were off, the Arabs lost their right to claim protection when they became aggressors, the Balfour resolution that the Arabs had rejected together with the UN partition resolution that the arabs had rejected no longer applied, the rules of war did.

When Arabs started wars of extermination they should have known that 'a la guerre comme a la guerre'. They are lucky Israel did not respond in kind, showed restraint and humanity instead and did not wipe them off the map, which Israel could do in a Jerusalem minute.

 

so the stipulations of the Balfour Declaration and Palestine Mandate giving Jews the right to settle in all of Palestine also no longer apply?

good to know.

 

No smartypants, that's not how it works in the real world. The stipulations/protections applicable to the Arabs no longer apply as they (Arabs, not Jews) rejected the declarations and resorted to violence and wars. Duh!

 

No, you are wrong , and fyi that statement was evolved in the UN, there was a UN committee followed by a vote, the violations on the rights of others are recorded since 1920 and before that. some Arabs welcomed the Jews and some massacred them.

 

no, YOU are wrong.

ever since 1948 the Israelis have been violating the rights and freedoms of non-Jews in Palestine, in contravention of the Balfour Declaration and Palestine Mandate.

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hahaha!!! you're funny.

if the stipulations of the Palestine Mandate and Balfour Declaration for non-Jews in Palestine are now null & void, then they are also null & void for the Jews.

you can't have it both ways, buddy.

 

No, YOU are wrong, the Arabs violating the rights and freedoms of Jews since 1920.