Hispanics AND Blacks agree: Zimmerman is GUILTY

A) That's not a colloquialism. That would be (here is Boston for example) something like, "it would be wicked pissa if you chilled" Saying "we don't need you to do that sir" is not a colloquialism. It means the same thing no matter where you are located. It is also definitely not the same as saying "Don't do that". When my wife asks me if I want her to make me a sandwich and I say I don't need you to do that, it doesn't mean don't make me one. If anything the general context taken by most people would be interpreted as you don't have to go through the trouble but I wouldn't complain if you did.
B) Did you see Zimmermans nose? (the rest of the country did) What earthly evidence do you require more than that to show he was punched in the nose? Can you enlighten us as to what you think did happen to his nose? (seeing as how you don't believe martin sucker punched him)

 

Self inflicted. Dont you know Zimmerman has a split personality disorder. One personality is a bumbling idiot the other is a professor Moriarty of crime. Which ever personality is control at anyone moment is entirely up to the liberal poster changing from second to second as the need arises.

 

The self inflicted broken nose was a response from the left here on the forum as to how they explained this. Sadly they were not joking.
They also said the police could have done it as well as the neighbor did it. Anything but trayvon.

 

Personally I believe it was officer Smith, at the T, with the flashlight. His testimony showed him to be an obvious racist. He's white you know.

 

It was an Alien that used mind control on both of them. No one here can prove me wrong.

 

"We don't need you to do that" is an idiomatic term that means "stop it." You seem to be the only one who doesn't get this fact.

Yeah, I saw Zimmy's nose. Do you have evidence that it was caused by a "sucker punch" that the rest of us don't have?

 

I am another who understands a suggestion to mean nothing more than 'you don't need to do it' as 'do not do that' is an order but, as we all know, a 911 operator is neither a stock broker, a police officer, the President of the USA or your boss but rather a person who takes information and routes it onward. In fact, he or she is not even a police officer or fireman or para medic but rather more like a dispatcher so cannot give orders to anybody.

You on the other hand must have the credentials and qualifications of the operator at hand so, produce them please, as well, the doctrine of the 911 operators to show they are to give 'orders' for tactical purposes rather than simply take and route information and while you are at it, please dissect the English language to show how saying something that they (the 911 operators) do not need is somehow meaning an order has been given and then show how some examples to clarify this ridiculous position.

Court records where the jury agreed it was. And you, what have you got to show it was not?

 

I can't find any mainstream news source that mentions Martin having hepatic parenchyma. All I find are a few ultra-conservative blogs that don't seem reliable to me.

 

Oh Come Now
Those are East Coast Latinos with a high percentage of Puerto Rico persons whose genome bridge Black and Latino.

I do no believe my California Latinos are bothered by the Zimmerman verdict in the least.
Has anyone witnessed the West's Latino community being "concerned" ?

To equate Puerto Rican or Cuban with most Spanish speaking Latinos in the U.S.A is a mistake.
The P.R. for reasons stated above and Cubans because most Latinos regard them as behaving with a superior air. That was what struck me as funny about expecting Rubio would attract the Mexican American vote.

Latino USA, A Cartoon History [Paperback]
Ilan Stavans (Author), Lalo Alcaraz (Illustrator)
Highly recommended. I even distributed some 15 copies to my Mexicans.

El Moi
Zapatista Viva La Tiera Redistribucion

 

1. I don't have the burden of proving your claims.
2. Just because you can't prove something to be wrong doesn't make it right.

Wiki says it best:

 

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   Don't have to prove my claims as I do it well enough. Just hoping you could prove yours but I guess not. You failed to show us how a 911 operator is qualified or authorized to give orders and then can't show us any proof that Zimmerman was not sucker punched. Very flaccid debating technique you have going and does squat to enhance your faulty position.
   
   
   Thanks for the link. You like wiki which is good as it proves my point yet again;
   
   
   So, now that we have settled the question of Treyvon suckering Zimmerman are you now pro Zimmerman and anti Treyvon or still 'arguing from ignorance?'

 

Oh, you're quoting the famously-reliable Zimmerman.

 

Nope. Quoted Wiki just like you did.

Golly, for a guy who doesn't want to show us his stuff you seem to be getting rather picky about sources.

 

Im hispanic and i believe both T and Z were 2 simple minded dumbasses who clashed.

Z should have kept his scrawny little ass in his car instead of trying to be a neighborhood hero, but no instead he gets out like an idiot and sets himself up for an ass kicking.

T should have gone into his house and alerted his father about what happened or just simply gone inside his home when he had the extreme chance to and called the police himself. But no, he just had to show off in front of his meaty girlfriend that he was a tough thug and go all the way back and confront Z and prove he is a man.

Now 1 is lying in the dirt and the other might as well be dead because he is gonna have to live a very quiet life to stay out of the mobs sight.

Curiosity truly does kill the cat, in this case the phrase strikes twice.

 

Well, sorry but your quote from Zimmerman via Wikipedia is not proof that he was "sucker punched" by Martin. Yeah, I need more than Zimmy's words because Zimmy is a known liar.

Zimmerman Admits He Lied About Finances.

 

Strange, Wiki was good enough for you a couple posts ago and now it is not.

Anyways, that's more than you have shown so far so please, pony up with something to counter his sucker punch other than...

 

Sorry, but you have failed to provide any proof that Martin "sucker punched" Zimmerman.

Get back to me when you do. It's not my job to prove your claims, so I don't have to pony up anything.

 

Only if he had to. Evidence showed that Z stopped when told that he didn't need to do that and headed back to his truck. At that point any threat Z may have previously posed was neutralized. No threat, no SYG.

I don't think all blacks hate all whites or visa versa. I see multi-colored folks living and working together as the general rule. What we have are a small but vocal and very violent culture that identifies with skin color and it exists in both so-called 'whites' and so-called 'blacks.' Unfortunately such vile behavior and evilness has much power which makes especially young kids from chaotic families gravitate to its lure of power and order.

People like Al Sharptounge and Jessie Jackson ensure that 'whitey' is always the threat as the bleed $$$$ from deep pockets that make them go away for nuiance-money. The entertainment media is complicit in perpetuating the 'gangsta' 'bada$$' myth of 'hoes', guns, and bling for posing and putting together rhymes about how much hatred they have and how little they value human life. Here is a sample:

One two for my crew, three fo' for the dough that I'm
Makin', five six seven for the lives that I'm
Takin', eight nine ten for my singers
Start over at one because I ran out of fingers
But I got a finger for you and it's the middle
And like Batman, you'll be plagued with a riddle
Who do you think you are, and who are you gonna
Be, so you can make the money like me

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric....Sudden-Death/4780586D414D144348256EC60004EAC6

Murderous mindstate
Can't keep my nine straight
Sippin' on this hennessey
Waitin' for the time to break
Show up and motha(*)(*)(*)(*)as bow down... recognize
West Side, Death Row, outlaw riders
Untouchable mob of pistol packers
Well known felons labeled for drug sellin' merciless jackers
Forever buzzed
Roll with thugs and dawgs
Commence to lettin' off rounds
Then escape in the fog
Who wanna see me solo?


Source: http://www.citizensreportuk.org/new...er-is-less-likely-than-white-on-white-murder/[/QUOTE]

And then of course...the 'white' side

Skinhead, skinhead, running through the night
Making lots of trouble, starting lots of fights
Skinhead, skinhead, getting really pissed
Skinhead, skinhead, tatted on my wrist!

waiting in the lane way, waiting for the scum
Smash their yellow faces, kick their (*)(*)(*)(*)ing bums
When they plee for mercy, we will show them none
Skinhead, skinhead, 'til the job is done

http://www.stlyrics.com/songs/s/skrewdriver9731/skinhead321386.html

Folks, can we all agree that most of US, no matter what skin color, agree this is nothing but filth? Do you think arguing over Z & T is really going to solve any da/\/\n thing?

 

I provided a source approved and used by yourself and, a court case which I believe you are aware of also agreed this occurred as stated so, case closed, he was suckered.

 

Well, luckily there's nothing wrong with an all female jury nor did they make their decision based on emotions or media fed crap.

 

If that is true, then why did it take him 4 mins to head back to his truck. Surely he hadn't ran that far.

 

Here is a site that shows and explains what happened. Looks to me like M (who arrived at Brandy Green's townhouse) was watching for Z who would have been going East toward Retreat Circle. You can see that M would be able to see Z as he was headed back to his truck past the back walk where M would be able to see Z's profile. M then rushed back down the walk and up to where he had seen Z cross. Z would have not been able to see him. At that point M jumped Z.

http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/evidence-that-trayvon-martin-doubled-back

 

I don't even get why this is a big enough issue to have it's own sub-forum.

 

And TM has no responsibility for his negligence? What about TM's parents? What about his dad's fiance?

TM can't read the big NW sign at the entrance? He can't see the gate? He doesn't for one second think to himself "ok, this isn't the hood, I better be on my best behavior".

His daddy's finance on first day TM comes to stay: "Trayvon, our neighborhood has had alot of break-ins by young black males. This neighborhood also has an active neighborhood watch. You need to be on your best behavior here."

TM: "Thanks for the heads up but I did see the sign and I will be on the look out for anyone from NW. Now , this is my idea, but if I feel threatened at all I will call 911, as I always have my cell on me."

Noooooooooo, no negligence there.

 

For those of us who understand that police dispatch operators haven't the authority to give orders, even "colloquial English" orders to callers and are likely discouraged from even making suggestions due to issues of liability, "you don't need to do that" is a polite way of saying "you don't need to do that." A dispatcher functions with pretty much one purpose--to relay information between the caller and any officers being dispatched to the scene. End of story, there is no alternate interpretation for the words that were said, this horse has already been beaten past death into the realm of undeath and then death of undeath. Please find a new line of argument.

Zimmerman's injuries are evidence of Martin striking him, whether or not it was a "sucker punch" is a miniscule and irrelevant detail. A punch of any kind would be a violation of the law, as would be the felony battery that the State's witness described as "ground and pound" "MMA-style" blows being rained on Zimmerman's face with Martin straddling him. Why do you even continue with any of this nonsense?