The Jews as "God's Chosen." What, exactly, does it mean?

Im not asking you to see for me. Im asking you to show where in the Bible the terms of the New Covenant are, and what are they.

Quantrill

 

I already did that but you reject it. So if you think you know what it is do so or I am going to move on.

 

.......anybody can criticize and find fault but not everyone is able to present something better.

 

No you didn't. You showed where Christ symbolized the wine as His blood which would be for the New Covenant. That isn't the promises or terms of the New Covenant.

Then you just gave verses of things that occur with the believer under the New Covenant. Such as grace, faith, repentance, the gifts of the Spirit. But none of these declare the terms or promises under the New Covenant.

Its not a question of presenting something better. You haven't presented anything.

How about looking in your concordance for 'New' or 'Covenant'. Key words.

Where in the Bible are the terms and promises of the New Covenant given, and what are they?

Quantrill

 

You know, asking me the same question over and over is not going to get you a different answer. If you think I am incorrect and you think you know what it is, how about enlighten me?

 

Your not incorrect. You havent provided an answer yet. Did you check your concordance?

Quantrill

 

The concordance is not the Bible........so either you can provide scriptures in the New Testament that stipulates what you believe it is or you don't know.

 

Why do you limit it to the New Testament?

Quantrill

 

I am getting weary of this.....if you think you know the answer to your question then say it, otherwise if you respond with another question or statement other than the answer, I am going unsubscribe from this trend and put you on ignore.

 

Do whatever you like. It is a legitimate question.

Quantrill

 

Bye.......don't bother to respond.....I won't see it.

 

Ok. Ignore the truth.

Quantrill

 

[I didn't have the time to read the whole thread, just the informative beginning and the silly deterioration on the last pages.]
Yeshua, the Messhiah, was Jewish and His teaching were in that context to that exclusive audience. What has been developed from those tenets by gentile church leaders is truly shameful but intellectually stimulating.
I think that is a common denominator many of us with an open mind could agree?!

 

Well, if you don't read the whole thread then I guess you might think it silly. But if you read it you might understand why it is where its at. Debate and discussion lead to brief final conclusions which are not well accepted by some.

Quantrill

 

it means jews created god....

like im sure theres a god the people of Zimbabwe worship....and i bet that god loves the people of Zimbabwe the bestest.

 

I would like to submit a motion for a new Tower of Babylon project; it should be much easier now with advances in translation software in modern times and with an Information Age at its disposal.

In the US, it may require a federal research university system with a campus on federal property in every State of the Union and the federal districts; with its own super computing array and redundant fiber optic communications technology.

Its mission could be the holy grail of perfect knowledge.

 

In the USA the jewishness of people have chosen them to be the leaders of the USA:

Thy are your judges, lawyers, and doctors.
They run the Universities and colleges of the uSA.
They own and operate the entertinment industry
They own and operate all the major investment banks and investment corporations, and insurance industry.
They own and operate the broadcast media and news media.
They own the taxpayer and the politicians.
And they tell the politicans and the people of the USA what they want.

Somebody aparently chose them to do all these things.

 

In my opinion, it should mean there is some "market" based competition ensuring there are better morals at potentially lower cost, over time.

 

Funny you mention Zimbabwe because they are the real Israelites so yeah, they observe the Torah and all that, go look it up, they didn't convert, they just managed to keep their faith and that is credit to the tolerance of the African people that they were never forcibly converted to christianity, that only happened when the europeans came or when the muslims came with Islam.

 

In my opinion, any mostly nice guy may be better off by being able to go to a temple dedicated to a goddess of Love to pray for true love and perform true love rituals and practice that form of holiness and morality, until his next girl friend shows up.

 

well now , Andreas I only read a few pages myself , found yours , and saw you was a newbie here , but of old and welcomely found again , and here you are , on PF ... it's great man , it really is , welcome .

There is no doubt that the original Hebrew & Greek translations are often un-known by people that call themselves as Christians , , lol , but it can not / should not be used as a judge to ones Faith , , understanding as growing in the grace and power of the Lord is the goal , but , it is the Faith in that belief of God , and his gift of repentence and forgiveness the world clings to in hope .


I'm not sure you spelled Yeshua correctly ... but however you spell it is ok with me . great to have you back home , chaps ,

 

How about, ensuring that the abomination of hypocrisy is not allowed in people running for public office "to rule over us"?

 

wow, you REALLY hate Jews.

 

Like I said in the other similar thread, any "chosenness" they may have had, has been forfeitted upon their denial of their messiah, Jesus Christ.

[video=youtube;SLPH4YslYD8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLPH4YslYD8[/video]

 

What the priest told you, deathshead, is only partially true.

Biblically a Jew (Judah) is one who follows Christ. Romans 2:28-29

Anyone, no matter how pure one's blood line from Abraham, he who does not follow Christ, is cut off and not a part of Judah or Israel.

Esau was from Abraham genetically, but he is cut off and not part of Abraham; Fleshly seed, but not a son in the true sense of the word.

Around 150 BC John Hyrcanus of Judea conquered Idumea (Edom) and incorporated them into his kingdom of Judah. Those Edomites eventually got control of the kingship and the priesthood. From that time forward, this branch of Edom has called themselves "Jews:.

And the Lord uses Edom to punish Christian Israel. In Russia, they were allied with Ashkenazi and the Prince of Gog. Between Stalin et. al. and Attaturk, around 150 million Christians were slaughtered.

So, "nature's God", Jesus Christ, used them to punish His poeple, the Christians in Russia. His Judgement on Christians is revealed in His message to the 7 Churches in Revelation.

And if Russians deserved it, we American Christians deserve even worse, and it is coming if we don't wake up and repent, sacrifice our Judaized reasoning, and reprogram our minds and hearts with the Word of Jesus Christ. Romans 12:1-2

Regarding "Chosen People":
He chose the worst people to save from themselves. If He could save them, the rest of humanity is easy.

Also, those who choose to follow Christ are the real Chosen people in the whole sense of the phrase.