How can we break the cycle of generational welfare dependency?

Dear friends,

And for all those trillions of dollars spent, to some observers it has only fostered more dependence on the government, instead of more individual initiative. Indeed, many families have had no meaningful job for decades, relying on various government programs for food, rent and a modest level of “spending money” for other items.

“Free money” does not foster individual initiative – to the contrary, in the large majority of individuals, it propagates a feeling of helplessness and despair, even bordering on (individual psychological) failure.
Performing a useful community service, whether it be sweeping the sidewalks, cleaning public restrooms, reading to the physically impaired, etc., would be a much better method than just throwing trillions of dollars away.

And---the proof is in the pudding: if anything, there is still more “poverty” now than ever. So it should be obvious, even to die hard liberal democrats, that the programs in place not only don’t solve the problem-but actually exacerbates it!!!

How can we break the cycle of generational welfare dependency?

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Purposely create jobs with a living wage and don't wait for some fairy tale "invisible hand" to do it.

 

Create a trade school system that teaches those capable of working a skill that will get them a living wage and assist them to find jobs, create affordable daycare centers to allow women with small children to work and not have to spend every penny their earn on daycare. Those capable of working and refuse to be trained lose their benefits, period.

 

This is a good suggestion.

However, the devil is in the details.

But how do we pay for these jobs that we create?

Do we raise taxes on the struggling middle class to create these new jobs?

Does the government pay private corporations to create these new jobs?

Do we create a new government agency like the TSA to create these new jobs?

How do we pay for this new agency? Again, Do we raise taxes on the struggling middle class to create these new jobs?

 

For starters, tax the wealthiest Americans and start DIRECTLY HIRING for a multi-decade infrastructure upgrade. Don't raise taxes on the middle at all, raise the upper bracket to the 1960s rates.

 

Instead of telling everyone that college is the only way to get ahead, start teaching people trades, how about we get people the skills they need to be blue collar workers, those who do the work that makes the world go around and that can earn a decent living. Maybe we need to start cutting up some of the largest companies and make them smaller, maybe Wal-mart is just too big, cut it up and allow new people to run stores in their communities rather than a nameless corporation.

Maybe some of these people need to take personal responsibility for their situations rather than blame everyone.

 

Give an example of how this can be done. Let's say that an unemployed, trained person can't find a job after searching for a long time, how does that person succeed through "taking responsibility".

 

How about: not having government remove some of his options by setting a minimum wage, how about government not making tons of regulations and laws so that small businesses can thrive and thus offer jobs?

 

I said SOME of these people. I have no problem helping those who are down on their luck. This is about multi generational welfare and people who do not wish to work. This is about people who are happy with taking the easy road. At some point someone needs to stand up and tell everyone who is poor, life is not easy, life is not easy for you, life is not easy for the middle class family, and life is not easy for the rich. We all have difficulties in life, quit feeling sorry for yourself, and do something.

I know its easy to look at the rich CEO and bemoan them, and say you are being taken advantage of, and yes sometimes there are people born into privilege, and its not fair. Too bad, its too bad you were not born into privilege, but that is not an excuse to not work hard. It is not an excuse that someone else has talent on the football field and does not work as hard as you. That is life, instead of crying about were you are, find what you do well and do it. If you want to let the government take care of you than you are going to be poor, people are going look down on you, and you will never be productive. THATS LIFE!

 

Well it is actually about 600 million....but lets not let facts get in the way

 

"How about: not having government remove some of his options by setting a minimum wage, how about government not making tons of regulations and laws so that small businesses can thrive and thus offer jobs? "

You are indeed correct, NothingSacred.

Here is some background information (see reference) on how the Obama Administration has been unilaterally implementing 47,540 rules and regulations on U.S. businesses since 2008 without obtaining authorization from the U.S. Congress to do so. These regulations, while mostly are well-intended, increase the cost of doing business and the price of goods and services which our corporations must then pass on to its customers.

These new rules and regulations are one reason many employers are not hiring new people and why our unemployment rates remain so high.

"In 2009, Federal agencies promulgated 3,503 final rules, while Congress passed and the President signed into law only 125 statutes. Last term, the Small Business’ Office of Advocacy reported that Federal rulemaking imposed a cumulative burden of $1.75 trillion on our economy—a figure that equaled fourteen percent of national income.

In February 2013, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Ph.D., former Congressional Budget Office Director and current head of the American Action Forum, testified before the Subcommittee on Regulatory Reform, Commercial and Antitrust Law that, taking into account the costs imposed by Obama Administration regulations to date and proposed regulations pending at that time, “during the past 4 years, the cumulative regulatory cost burden has increased by more than $520 billion” Dr. Holtz-Eakin further testified that: “To put the $520 billion figure in perspective, it is more than the combined gross domestic product of Portugal and Norway, and there is little evidence 2013 will slow this pace.”

Source:
http://theenergycollective. com/jemillerep/218116/should- us-implement-carbon-tax

 

I believe you are mistaken. Please provide a reliable source for this number.

Are you aware today we spend over $60,000 to support welfare programs per each household that is in poverty?

"New data compiled by the Senate Budget Committee shows that, last year, the United States spent over $60,000 to support welfare programs per each household that is in poverty. The calculations are based on data from the Census, the Office of Management and Budget, and the Congressional Research Services.

"According to the Census’s American Community Survey, the number of households with incomes below the poverty line in 2011 was 16,807,795," the Senate Budget Committee notes. "If you divide total federal and state spending by the number of households with incomes below the poverty line, the average spending per household in poverty was $61,194 in 2011."

This dollar figure is almost three times the amount the average household on poverty lives on per year. "If the spending on these programs were converted into cash, and distributed exclusively to the nation’s households below the poverty line, this cash amount would be over 2.5 times the federal poverty threshold for a family of four, which in 2011 was $22,350 (see table in this link)," the members on the Senate Budget Committee note."

 

And this has what do to with your gross inflation of the cost of welfare

 

Value/build-up the Middle Class and stop subsidizing America's wealthiest 1%.

 

So you're saying work for less than minimum wage? I'd fake a disability and go on the dole before lowering myself to that.

 

Time on AFDC Percent of Recipients
Less than 7 months 19%
7 to 12 months 15.2%
1 to 2 years 19.3%
2 to 5 years 26.9%
Over 5 years 19.6%



Statistic Verification
Source: US Department of Health and Human Services, U.S. Department of Commerce, CATO Institute
Date Verified: 10.15.2012
Welfare is the organized public or private social services for the assistance of disadvantaged groups. Aid could include general Welfare payments, health care through Medicaid, food stamps, special payments for pregnant women and young mothers, and federal and state housing benefits. The Welfare system in the United States began in the 1930s, during the Great Depression. Opponents of Welfare argue that it affects work incentives

http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/


According to these statistics 80% of people go off within 5 years. Is there stats on this so-called generational cycle?

 

Good, and you realise that is only achievable by dramatically cutting the powers of government right, don't you mod edit >>>rule 4<<<?

It will get you jobs is what I'm saying, you all want jobs don't you?

 

Dr. Martin Luther King had it right back in 1961. The black leaders today should have listened to Dr. King. They have it wrong about the state and causes of generational welfare dependency in the black community! As Dr. King said, "We can’t keep on blaming the white man."

From Jason Riley, a distinguished black author:

“Do you know that Negroes are 10 percent of the population of St. Louis and are responsible for 58% of its crimes? We’ve got to face that. And we’ve got to do something about our moral standards,” Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. told a congregation in 1961, “We know that there are many things wrong in the white world, but there are many things wrong in the black world, too. We can’t keep on blaming the white man. There are things we must do for ourselves.”

Until people on welfare (black and white included) take responsibility for their condition and work positively to do something about it, nothing will change.

 

Same way we've paid for them for decades. Taxation and "Borrowing"

No, just accumulate more deficits like Reagan, Bush, and just about every other President in history

This isn't anything new, we have been creating government jobs for centuries. The only thing it requires is a stroke of a pen from the President with the backing of the worthless Congress.

There is no reason to raise taxes for any new spending.

 

Make a social safety net standard for all who want it removing the stigma. If someone wants to live in a government unit say for a single person a shared dorm, cafeteria food, hygiene supplies, laundry and health care and they would be the employment source for general low skilled work such as fast food service - they would assign the work employers need filled taking half your check. If you refuse work to much they could toss you out of the system and there would be no other option. If its open to all and elective then the stigma being in the system would die it would be mostly there and people could opt to be independent of it.

 

No. I DON'T "realise that", because is isn't necessarily true.

 

These are good suggestions. However, most black people do not want to move out of their black community.

We need to get the wealth black athletes and highly-paid movie stars to open small business in these inner-city communities. This way, the people who live there will have a job and meaningful work to do instead of living month-to-month on a government welfare check, courtesy of the U.S. taxpayers.

 

Or you could just stop regulating the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of everything, get the government OUT of business, and let the cost of living come down. Ridding society of the need for a "living wage" in the first place. Herp derp.

 

You have to keep a strong middle class.

 

In the United States, 90% of all businesses are small businesses, however, 90% of business profits are generated by corporations.