WWE superstar Darren Young comes out as gay

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  1. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I assume you have seen The Wrestler.
    It is staged... ie set up. It is faked, even if blood packets stopped filling the arenas. It is presented as something it is not. That you enjoy the athleticism of sadomasochistic homo-erotic theater doesn't mean you are gay.

    It's just not my thing...


    And its fake.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL Good catch.

    It fascinates me that they can be so obsessed with gay rights, gay sex, gay laws, gay everything. Some even make many posts about homosexuality in a single thread while claiming that they couldn't care less about the gays.
     
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    It's predetermined, true, but the damage they take to their bodies is real. It's why a lot of wrestlers abuse painkillers.

    This is smart of Darren. I don't watch nearly as much as I used to, I might catch a Raw or 2 every month, but I'm aware he's a lowcarder. He'll probably get a push after all of this publicity.

    Smart.

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    Darren is part of a lowcard tag team with Titus O'Neil. He isn't even a midcarder.

    He is now, though.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because the gays, and left celebrating them, are so low key and tasteful.
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    These dudes certainly know how to attract Republicans' attention.

    If only they could get as interested in finding a viable presidential candidate.
     
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    I think it's good for ratings. Now some extra gay audience might tune in (more than who tune in to enjoy the spandex) having a "competitor" to identify with. And more anti-gays can even tune in to root against him or to boo against gays.
     
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    Right...because naked queer street festivals are such well known republican shindigs.

    That process is ongoing.
    We haven't all bowed down as of yet to a presumptive heir with a high profile name and little else to recommend herself. We actually
    like to choose the best qualified person, if possible, by merit.
     
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    Xemophobia and double standards at it's most clear.

    Think about it this way, the Religious Right throws their religion in our face and then hides behind the First Amendment. According to them, we are supposed to adhere to their interpretation of religion or be doomed to their Hell. We tolerate that, and fight back in our own nonviolent ways. If seeing two gays walking around with feather boas and thongs bothers you, why are you looking?

    I remember when I would walk around my neighborhood, I once came across this guy that was sitting on the street corner of two major intersections. I was relatively soaked with sweat and had my headphones on and my music playing loud. This guy had a sandwich board with some sort of Christian message on it. He stepped right in my path as I was five feet from him, looking right at me. The sidewalk was almost entirely took up by his entire sandwich board, and my option was to either ask him to move, step into oncoming traffic of an arterial road, or walk through evergreen bushes. I flipped off one of my headphones to ask him to move, he did not. He started preaching to me. Being an impatient jogger, and having the fates on my side, the next track that came on my music was Highway to Hell, I looked at him, told him I was on the Highway to Hell, and then proceeded to brush past him. Oh, I'm sure he was offended that I would move him and his sacred sandwich board, but I was at the apex of my walk, was out of water, very uncomfortable, and frankly insulted that I would have my routine interrupted to deal with some zealot trying to infringe my right to freedom of religion.

    Whereas, with gays, their rights to self-determination, dignity, and freedom of choice is infringed by those on the right who seek to bar progress towards equality. As my signature points out, there is no exception codified within the Constitution's statements on equal rights. Therefore, the ultimatum is: allow those who want their freedoms to be respected, to have their freedoms respected, so long as they are not interfering upon the rights of others. Fail to do that, and you will see more gays in thongs. I am sure you would not want to see me, as fat as I am, in a thong. But if it will stick it in the craw of some uptight Bible-thumper who will unilaterally condemn me to their Hell regardless, I might as well enjoy the ride on that highway by prancing around in a thong. I'll also see that same Bible-thumper there, because somewhere in the Bible, they will have screwed up somewhere.

    Every Bible-thumper lives in a glass house and enjoys practicing their golf swing. Explains why there's a stairway to heaven, but a highway to hell. Everyone's going to hell in America, nobody bothers taking the stairs.

    Look at Football, big guys in tight pants, five guys bend over at the waist. One of those five then has a sixth man walk up right behind him and place his hands right near the man's crotch, to which a ball is exchanged, at which time the five men then grope men on the other side in an attempt to prevent them from driving the sixth man into the ground.

    Yes, I just Rule 34'd football. Name any sport, and I'll find a way to Rule 34 it.

    Opinions are useless without being backed up by facts.

    As for wild-west fights. They're using blanks or cap-guns, thus the danger is minimized considerably more than pro wrestling.

    As Ron White said, we're ALL gay, it just depends on how gay we are.

    It's despicable to me how America has to discriminate against people. This shouldn't be news, because it shouldn't matter. He is the same performer he will be on Sunday that he was on Monday night.

    Someone coming out should be like this:

    Celebrity: I'm gay
    Public: Not a big deal, a lot of people are. You're you, I'm me, your being gay does nothing to me.

    Instead, it's like this:

    Celebrity: I'm gay
    Part of the public: YOU ARE A SINNER, YOU WILL ROT IN MY HELL!!!
    Other part of the public: *looks at the first part with a total "dafuq" look: Good for you, celeb, You're you, I'm me, your being gay does nothing to me.

    If I could get away with it, I'd post the link to the gay energy drink video on YouTube......really make the anti-gays here lose their lunch.
     
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    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    It's not clear at all.

    I'm not sure what Rule 34 is. But the center exchange hardly makes football a "gay" sport (not like two big sweaty, heavily muscled men in bikini shorts hugging and rolling around in the middle of a ring, anyway).

    Well, yes (duh), no one uses live ammunition. But stunt people falling from two story buildings and doing risky stunt riding bits are hardly playing it safe.
    As far as I know, Rule 34 be damned, no one has ever become a paraplegic from wrestling, unlike the extreme contact generated by football injuries.
     
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    ROFL Rule 34 of the internet is "If it exists, there is porn of it."

    Proven falsehood. In fact, I pointed out two people that actually were paralyzed due to wrestling matches.

    Darren Drozdov became a quadriplegic due to a botch, as did Marty Garner, the wrestler that botched Triple H's pedigree.

    Also, Dalip "Great Khali" Singh Rana, a current WWE wrestler, inadvertently caused the death of fellow wrestler Brian Ong during a training session while both were with the All Pro Wrestling promotion. They were practicing moves, and Ong suffered a concussion. The APW medical staff failed to properly assess the concussion, and allowed Ong to continue to practice. He took two more flapjack moves, which worsened the concussion. Ong was rendered unconscious and later died at a hospital. APW was found negligent by a jury in a civil trial and was ordered to pay over a million dollars in damages to the Ong family. Singh Rana was not charged in any way, because he was told by the APW staff that it was okay to proceed with practice.

    Looking at the Wikipedia article on the subject, this is the list of wrestlers that have died during a match as a result of the match itself:
    Tiger Mask II
    Daniel Quirk
    John L. Coggeshall
    Masakazu Fukuda
    Emiko Kado
    Jesús Solís
    José Vincent Ramos Estrada
    Michel Vigneault
    Ray Gunkel
    Alberto Torres (Both Torres and Gunkel died in matches with the same person, Ox Baker)
    Jeanette Wolfe
    Mike Romano
    Jack Ray
    Joe Shimkus
    William J. Baldwin

    Further, these wrestlers have died as a result of injuries sustained during the match but passed away sometime after the match:
    Chris Candido
    Mariko Umeda
    Ignacy J. Stasiak

    Neither list is exhaustive.
     
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    I am an atheist and rational anarchist. Celebrating sexual fetishes still strikes me as counterproductive.
     
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    There is a difference between fetish and orientation.

    Rational anarchy....never knew those two terms could be used in conjunction with one another, though that's a different topic.
     
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    I dunno. If I like Asian women and only Asian women, is that a fetish or orientation? All just seems like compartmentalized fetishism.

    Rational anarchy is a concept explored in the work of Robert Heinlin.
     
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    Well then your claim is even more lame. If anything can be pornified (which isn't necessarily true) then that says nothing in particular about something as mundane as a center exchange.
    Certainly it has nothing on gay wrestling videos, which are an actual staple of gay porn.

    Oh, okay. Jack Tatum hit Daryl Stingley so hard he severed his spinal column and someone else died practicing his fake wrestling moves.

    I think this only highlights the dishonest show biz nature of pro wrestling.
     
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    I'm not even going to bother educating you on Rule 34, you seem too old to be capaable of getting it.

    Wow, I give not one, not two, but EIGHTEEN names of people that have died during matches, and you dismiss them. That makes the only dishonesty your own assertion that wrestling isn't inherently dangerous.

    Granted, those are from across the globe and date to the dawn of the 20th Century, and none of those were as noteworthy in professional wrestling as, say Dale Earnhardt was in NASCAR, else they may have shined a brighter light on the real workings of professional wrestling. The fact is, it is highly unlikely that a person would die during a WWE match, though there have been two very close calls involving a maneuver called the Shooting-Star Press, an acrobatic aerial move that sees the performer execute a tight backflip, as well as Owen Hart's piledriver on Stone Cold that I mentioned.

    All the dissecting of Chris Benoit's death did not do enough looking at just how dangerous pro wrestling really is. Every sport with as much contact as professional wrestling has some sort of mandated safety equipment.
     
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    They don't use blood packets. They use razor blades. Eddie Guerrero bladed himself so bad in one match that the blood was just pouring out
     
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    I remember when Brock Lesnar attempted a shooting star against Kurt Angle and landed on his head. I thought he was done but he popped right back up. I was amazed a guy his size would even attempt that move.
     
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    He'd done the move before when he was in OVW, just had never attempted it before in WWE. The botch was because he misjudged the distance, I think he was diagnosed with a concussion in the end The other Shooting Star Press botch I was referring to was the close call with Billy Kidman.
     
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    What should I say? You don't seem old enough to understand I get the concept of "Rule 34"? (it isn't all that complex)

    It's you who doesn't seem to understand that such an internet maxim doesn't really support your position (that football is "gay") but just weakens it.

    Not at all. I acknowledged the deaths.
    I just don't believe that wrestling is anywhere near as dangerous as professional football.

    For instance (showing you should never believe someone else's biased research) my own research turns up only fifteen deaths associated with wrestling and after looking though just two or three of these examples (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Professional_wrestling_deaths)
    I came upon the death of Luther Lindsay, who died in the ring....of a heart attack! (Larry Cameron also died of a heart attack...not from the ultra dangerous sport of wrestling)
    If I checked all fifteen deaths I wonder how many would be from the inherent fake violence of wrestling? And how many would be due to
    clogged arteries?

    Pro wrestling can be dangerous, especially when your heart is clogged up with fatty cholesterol! So let's just say I don't take what you claim at face value.

    Like NASCAR I really can't say I have watched wrestling at all (at least not since I grew up) nor do I watch pro bowling.
    As sports go they occupy the lower end of the socio-economic ladder, and the I.Q. scale.

    If you've seen the "punches", "eye gouging" or "choke holds" employed by pro wrestlers you know how "dangerous" pro wrestling really is. Fake violence for the benefit of rubes produces fake danger.
    I imagine some people have seriously injured themselves trying to do too much but since wrestling is essentially a scam the danger can't be all that
    serious.
     
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    I never once said anything about the strikes. Most kicks and punches are pulled. Many chair shots, however, are not.

    When I compiled the deaths, I ignored the deaths from heart attacks, because the probability of more than one being a direct result of a move were incredibly remote. Every death I cited was attributed to things other than a heart attack, such as blunt force trauma or spinal injuries.

    Keep disparaging those you don't like, you are only taking away the validity of your position.
     
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    All leftists do is post opposite counter points that amount to mindless proaganda regurgitateing the politically correct position and no evidence. Just wanted you know I noticed.
     
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    Really? Thats what you got? Please, I KNOW you got more than that.
     
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    And you pulled that from where? You just proved that you did not read the article, you do know that, right?

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    So, you believe nothing and stand for nothing.
     
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    Fasinated? Leftists don't even get it, how can they possibly screw up fasination. LOL
     
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    :roll: A folding metal chair to the back, flat on...not on end ever, is just another bit of stagecraft. It's a show, after all!

    I will be checking that list, as time allows.

    You mean like the way you disparaged me, claiming I was probably too old to understand Rule 34? Remove the stone in your eye before you point to the speck in mine.
     

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