What should our policy be towad Islam?

Really? What % of American muslims become jihadis? A fraction of a fraction of 1%?

 

In probably no more that 50 years, Islam will be the only available religion that worships God on the planet. Therefore, all those who wish to publicly worship God will have no choice but to embrace Islam.

That being true, what is Islam's attitude toward atheists?

 

Well, I think that's changing:

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/b/boston_marathon/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nidal_Malik_Hasan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Finton

 

It should be made clear to American Muslims, especially Mideast-looking ones, that due to the discord caused by some members of Islam, and due to the fact that the rest of us can't tell who is who (due partly to the fact that American Muslims aren't having marches every week against Radical Islam terrorism), they will just have to abide for some time with extra scrutiny.

If 99% of terrorism was being done by tennis players or Christians, the same tactic would be used until something safer could be established. Hopefully the tennis players would quickly learn to shun those tennis players who take part in terrorism. Or the Christians, or whomever...

If Christians DID 99% of the terror, and I went on vacation to a non-Christian majority country, I would not be a bit surprised nor offended if they gave me extra scrutiny or profiling. I would think they are foolish if they didn't profile me.

 

Your first sentence is probably inaccurate of course, but your second sentence is certainly interesting. Atheists would be the first to be tortured or to die in that case. Yowch, atheists.

At least the Christians wouldn't kill you all.

Makes you wonder how much more ignorant atheists are down deep than they are on the surface, I think.

 

Everything quoted up there is idiotic. And IF those surveys are accurate (which I doubt) they're misunderstanding what "most of them" (as you state) are saying.

Again, in different words. Stop being afraid that you're going to have to stop behaving in ways that you know you shouldn't behave in anyway. You won't HAVE to stop. You will finally stop because the things you do that you know you shouldn't will end up being such a bringdown that even YOU'LL realize it. THEN you'll quit them.

Then and only then will you stop fearing Christianity. (which isn't out to "take over" anyway)

Oh brother. **rolling my eyes** (respectfully, of course)

 

Islam says "let there be no compulsion in religion"

Actually according to FBI statistics, only 6% of terrorists attacks are by Muslims.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

As to why there are so many Muslim extremists, 2 reasons:
1. The media portrays a false picture of it being so.
2. If a foreign govt say China started sending drones in US killing innocent people or waged an unfair war against your country with your government unable or unwilling to fight back, would not a lot of people decide to take matters in their own hands and take revenge any way they could?

 

This makes no sense.

 

Well, I dunno. How do you know that Islamists would not tolerate atheists? I've tried to research it, but no one seems to have ever thought about it, much less have an answer.

Islam is probably more tolerant of atheists than Baptists are

Islam seems to hate Christians and Jews. Maybe Islam is indifferent toward atheists, ignore them, and don't care one way or another?

One thing's for certain though. Islam is extremely conservative, therefore American Democrats better think twice about embracing Islam just to spite American conservatives. Actually, one would think conservatives would like Islam since both of them are extreme, right-wing, religious conservatives.

 

My answer is pretty simple. Treat them like anybody else, but any group (and it would go for any religion or civic group) that gives any support to terrorists here or abroad is sued under the RICO act. Your mosque supports terrorism, we take the mosque and all of it's assets. If your parish supports the murder of abortion doctors, same thing, we're taking your chit, and you don't exist anymore. It should be about BEHAVIOR. Well behaved people of any religion or non-religion should most certainly exist. Just draw lines in the sand, and anyone of any group that crosses those well defined lines loses big time.

 

So only western or christian nations have laws against stealing and killing. I see.
You must be extatic.

 

The 2010 census showed that there are about 2.5 million Muslims in the U.S. out of about a 300 million population size. Muslims are a little less than 1% of the population and they commit 6% of the terrorism? That's pretty bad, IMHO.

http://www.outofur.com/archives/2012/05/new_census_data.html

 

We should demand that the so called good muslims turn in all of the muslim terrorist and quit supporting them.

 

I was reponsing to the claim that over 90% of terrorist attacks are by Muslims which is clearly not the case. In fact it is the opposite. And you know very well the reason for the attacks is the failed US foreign policy. Tell me how many Christian or Jewish or any other nation is US waging war on and we can make an honest comparison.

So how are these good Muslims supposed to turn in the terrorists. Do you think there's some magical way by which all good Muslims know about who are the terrorists and what they are plotting.

In 2011, In 2011, an estimated 1,203,564 violent crimes occurred in US, majority of them by Christians. Using your logic, why didn't good Christians turn them in and allow these crimes to happen?

 

its not an opinion because they behave the same way as they did back then. Cutting peoples heads off is barbaric.

Yes. But my point is that Islam is just flat out wrong and they shouldnt have the free will to practice it because its too extreme. They threaten us because of their religion which is another reason.

They can keep their religion is they defeat us. Islam was spread by conquering people and spreading it by force. I think this is the only way to get rid of it. And islam is inhumane.

 

Their leaders are.

The majority make the rules. The leaders are agaisnt us.

 

doesn't matter. The people matter

except that there are no rules made by a majority that applies to a member of a religion. Btw, that muslims would like sharia law should probably be seen in the same way as american conservatives saying that america is founded on christianity and is a christian nation etc. Id est, they don't necessarily think about a theocracy.

 

Up until 1981, beheading by guillotine was the official method of capital punishment of France. The last execution using the method was done in 1977. What's that sound? That would be the sound of the air leaving that particular argument and it becoming invalid.

So, because they have a belief system opposite of what you'd like, you'd rather exterminate them? What's next, goosestepping lessons?

How was Christianity spread? Certainly wasn't because the missionaries were respectful and considerate of the natives. In fact, the entire expansion of Christianity to the Americas was by force. Don't Believe me? Go read a book about Montezuma II.

 

Yeah, mindset. Not most of them, of course, but because it is unreformed and does not back off on anything its book preaches it attracts the more fundamentalist and extreme religious types more than the other two Abrahamic religions who they would say are "traitorous" for rescinding many of their former barbaric ways.

I'm not going to speak for everyone, but I'd hazard a guess that more people who are deeply religious would prefer a religion that sticks to its guns and follows them to the letter (Islam) instead of one that frequently cuts out [a lot of] the bad bits (Christianity).

The only difference between them really is that the Muslims don't try to pretend their religion isn't barbaric.

 

What should our policy objectives as they pertain to Islam be?

1. A two-state solution using the Green Line, with Palestine's capital as East Jerusalem.

2. End support for Israel until all illegal settlements are dissolved and the above is done.

3. Kill or - preferably, for rehab - capture militants to prevent them from harming others.

4. Discontinue our military presence in any countries where that presence is unpopular.

5. Discontinue foreign policies driven by realpolitik, and consistently oppose imperialism.

6. Encourage communities to build cultural bridges between Muslims and non-Muslims.

7. Seek to marginalize religious extremists - both from moderates and folk of other faiths.

8. Seek to help non-Muslims realize that extremists aren't "true" representatives of Islam.

9. Rigorously campaign against poverty and in favor of economic success for everyone.

10. Establish an agenda in regards to human rights and be consistent about sticking to it.

 

They come to the Party or we stop all the financial support for their schools ,and tax free status.

Shame the Abrahamite fools ,and make general fun about their well lets say PRIMATIVE ,Tribal forms of life .I do refer to the Advanced capitalist Nation Context .

The Male Transvestite Club defined by Funny Hats ,is such an easy target .Ask any friends that may be Muslim ,Jewish or Christian why the Transvestite's Rule ,as well as Rape children ,carry out Murder for "God : and generally ,why do the men hate women in these religions.

Under a Socialist System All Religion will wither away as generations move on ,Educated in Science the need for God ,goes Poof!

 

I think it's best to keep up trade relations with the Middle East and screen immigrants carefully.

No support for dictators is necessary, nor is an outright ban on Islamic immigrants.

 

I think when a nation claims to value religious freedom, it has to take all comers...

 

What a silly post.
Because western law is biblical in base, doesn't exclude other religion based laws from working on the same principles.
Jewish and Muslim based laws are very similar to Christian laws in most respects.

 

Laws based on the rules as laid out in the bible.
The church had massive power and influence so, as you would expect, many laws were based around the bible.
http://www.lonang.com/foundation/1/f18.htm