"I Love Being White"

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  1. Unifier

    Unifier New Member

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    I just saw this, and it made me laugh. So I thought I'd make a thread about it.

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    Clearly, most people would not have a problem with somebody wearing a shirt that says, "I love being black" or pretty much anything else that isn't considered a majority. But how many people do you think would be offended by this shirt? Notice how there's nothing negative at all in the message. It's simply focusing on a positive. It's promoting the love of something. Yet I can't help but predict a lot of people would be bothered by it. And I'm curious why.

    Would you have a problem with someone wearing this shirt? If you saw someone wearing this in public, would you say something? If you owned a business and someone walked in wearing it, would you make a big deal out of it? Or would you ignore it.
     
  2. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    if there was no past history of racial slavery, subjugation, imperialism,discrimination and intolerance by whites then there wouldn't be an issue...but there was and there still is...a black person doing it is like a rape victim reclaiming his/her right not to be victimized again, proclaiming "this will not happen to me again"....a white person doing it is saying "I'm still better than you"...

    I'm white but I feel no special pride in it, it's my genetic inheritance it makes no better or worse than any other skin shade...
     
  3. AndrogynousMale

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    I feel no pride being white, mostly because I think it's stupid to be proud of something that I had no control over. That being said, I don't care if someone wears a shirt that says, "I love being White," even though there is a racial history. I just have a hard time getting offended over things in general.
     
  4. Troianii

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    Ah, yes, so because there's a bad context that some people think of when they see such a shirt, it's inappropriate? So because there's a bad history some people might think about when hearing anything else the op mentioned other than the shirt, you'd say those are equally wrong.

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    Or you're just being hypocritical.
     
  5. Steady Pie

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    Being white is one of those things that I only care about because I am white. I don't want to be a blonde, for example, because brown hair is part of my identity. That doesn't make brown hair superior, it just makes it mine.

    PS: people take race way too far. There's nothing evil about racism - it's just a factual inaccuracy. Once you act on that false belief and start coercing people, then it becomes bad, as opposed to just incorrect. The left is especially susceptible (sorry guys) to overplaying race, because a core component of their ideology is neurotic compassion for everyone, even if they don't want it.
     
  6. Johnny-C

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    I hope all will read your post and understand.

    Well said.

    - - - Updated - - -

    That is utter nonsense. (Come on, please.)
     
  7. antb0y

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    To be honest, I find both versions (black and white) dumb.
    I don't understand why people identify so much over their skin color.
     
  8. Johnny-C

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    I think that you need to try harder to understand that; sadly, skin color matters in "America". :(
     
  9. antb0y

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    Let me specify: I refuse to understand it. I'm not interested in understanding it.
     
  10. Johnny-C

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    I figured that's what you meant. So be it.
     
  11. Steady Pie

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    Who cares what some nut thinks about racial superiority? It's when he acts on that belief that we should get angry.

    Racism is no different to Christianity. They're both just incorrect ideas. Sure, when you start actually doing some of the messed up stuff the Bible tells you to do, then it becomes wrong. But until that point, it's just ignorance. Same with racism.

    Note that I'm not talking about racism as every action derived from it. I'm talking about the simple idea that your race is inherently superior, and saying that there's nothing ethically wrong with holding that belief.
     
  12. apoState

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    Who wouldn’t love being white? Police don’t harass me. People don’t follow me around in stores. I can go for a walk at night without people thinking I am up to no good. When a white person does something bad people don’t attribute his actions to all white people.

    Yeah, being white is a pretty sweet gig. As Louis C.K. said, “I'm not saying that white people are better. I'm saying that being white is clearly better.”

    [video=youtube;TG4f9zR5yzY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY[/video]

    As for the shirt? Seems like kind fo a jerk thing to wear. If you were rich would it be in good taste to wear a shirt that says "I Love Being RIch"?
     
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    Yes. And that's what I see in these T-shirts. It's a less aggressive way to say "I'm proud to be white/black".
     
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    that it annoys people should tell you that still matters to both sides...that you don't understand it is a good thing and everyone thought that way then it(the t-shirt) wouldn't matter...once you've been targeted by racism as I have(and I'm white) you appreciate what people of colour have endured for decades, it really p***es you of and it hurts...
     
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    even a grade school dropout can own a computer...
     
  16. Jackster

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    Yes it could very well stop you getting a job or a school placement (AA) or worse get you killed (kill crackers for Trayvon)

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    But to the OP i dont see any problem at all. What i find interesting is the people that get offended are the ones that celebrate diversity while at the same time tell us theres no such thing as race. Unless of course theres votes in it, then theres race. But if everyone is the same, then they shouldnt have a problem with a 100% white immigration policy since they believe anyone is the same - to them it should make no difference, but strangely it does, in a big way. It not hard to see through veil they hide behind.
     
  17. Caustic_Avenger

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    1. By what virtue do you profess to understand what it's like to be a black person enough to pontificate about their mindset?
    2. Why do you think what you said is a sufficient answer for why people of another background can do something you in your own mind can't?
    3. Are race crimes secluded to "white on black" violence, and not the inverse?
    4. Why are you so apologetic? Did you do something? Did your direct ancestors do something?
    5. Do you like yourself?

    Don't answer right away. Think about it.
     
  18. hseiken

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    Why do you continue to play up race when race isn't an issue...it's government? Take a second and think before you post crap like this. It makes you look like a buffoon.

    YOu have good political arguments. This is definitely not one of them.
     
  19. Redalgo

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    I would have a problem with someone wearing the shirt, though I am a polite person and would not say anything. If I owned a business and a person came in wearing it I would not bring it up at all and try my best to treat him or her as I would anybody else. In practice this is also true - though very uncomfortable, I got along fine with a neo-Nazi of some sort visiting my place of business just last month.

    Upon reflecting on this I've found the point at which I go from being non-partisan and having a lack of bias in favor of progressive people and against conservative ones to actually being pretty prejudiced. A white pride shirt immediately brings to mind white nationalism and white supremacism, and in turn those bring to mind the people in politics I feel most threatened by (e.g. self-described fascist folk calmly explaining they will kill me along with a minority of other citizens to prevent subversion of their new order if they someday rise to power) and have the most to disagree about on the issues.

    The response is also more "real" and visceral to me, in a sense, because the abuses from folk of my own race are local whereas other racist factions seem to be off in faraway places. I see the swastikas and Nazi salutes with my own eyes, know of Asian tourists getting attacked by white supremacists, have stood in the presence of a placard of theirs demanding Blacks self-deport to Africa, have heard the stories of Native Americans still getting denied service at some establishments on the far end of town, had some bloke jeer "n*gger lovers" at me and the rest of my family when he learned we were not supporting McCain in '08, etc. I do not personally know anyone who expresses white pride without also being someone who is racialist or has racist attitudes.

    I know this perspective is irrational and in theory know that it is not a set of generalizations I should give in to, but when confronted with the subconscious triggers in practice my mind leaps right back to the aforementioned assumptions. There might be too much baggage as it is to totally rid myself of such reactions, though in my defense I wish that I did not have them. There is nothing wrong with being White, loving to be White, or even having fallacious beliefs on race!


    I agree completely with this and obviously cannot speak for everyone on the left, but a lot of us do like to care for and support people - especially when they seem to be victims of oppression or are underdogs in a conflict trying to secure what should be theirs. Sometimes we overreact or sense threats or signs of ignoble intentions from people that don't in reality exist - sometimes we are like knights riding off to save damsels in distress or slay dragons only we believe exist.

    On the other hand, perhaps there are plenty of others out there who do the same sort of thing?
     
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    Yeah...you should be proud. You won life's lottery at birth. You'll never be pulled over while driving for no reason. You'll always be preferred for the best jobs. You'll always get away with crimes that blacks would go to jail for. Yes, you won! Be happy and proud to be white! You've already won half the battle at birth!
     
  21. Caustic_Avenger

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    Hey, snap out of it. Question to the pair of you: Do you like white people (like yourselves)?
     
  22. Steady Pie

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    Nice post, but just on that above - I don't think intentions really matter, myself. If someone has harmed me unjustly then I'll seek compensation from them, whether they intended to harm me or not. If someone walks around with a t-shirt that says "proud to be white", I don't care what his intentions are, because either way he hasn't harmed me or anyone else unjustly. Hurting my feelings or making me think he's an ass doesn't fit the bill.

    In my opinion there's a pretty clear divide in politics, between the question "what should happen?", and "who should get to decide?". The thing I've respectfully noticed about both sides (although we'll use the left as an example), is that they pick and choose which question they want to ask. Take drugs. The left is fine with cannabis (a noble position), because they think that the individual should be able to make the choice as to what he consumes, regardless of the health issues caused. Move to the tobacco industry and it can be like talking to completely different people. Instead of asking "who should get to decide?", they start asking themselves "what should happen?", and they end up saying that the individual shouldn't get to choose, and enacting huge tobacco taxes, plain packaging laws, truckloads of regulation, etc.
     
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    I wonder if the OP was expecting some common sense answers to this dopey thread.

    Someone said "intent does not matter" in one of those posts. That could not be further from the truth. Intent is all that matters when dealing with (*)(*)(*)(*) like this.

    If one does not know why a person chooses to wear a shirt like that, then it is impossible to respond properly. Absent that information....which was not provided by the OP.....we are all just jumping to conclusions. We are left to guess what the intent is ( which I will do in a minute ). In order to do so, we must rely on our understanding of human nature.

    Take, for example, the way that many "tea partiers" like to deck themselves out in red, white and blue when attending one of their rallies. They take what would be considered a positive patriotic step.....and turn it into a sad, divisive one. Why....because their intent in wearing that stuff is to say....."we are more American than the other guys". Same thing with the Gadsen flag. That used to be a symbol of independence for all Americans....but now it is used by some nutjobs as a symbol of division. Intent is everything.

    Bck to the OP's shirt. The chances of a person who would seriously consider wearing a shirt like that actually being honest with himself and others about his intent.....are pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ing slim. What normal person wants to admit that they are a passive aggressive (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) with an inferiority complex?

    I see that guy, I shake my head with pity and treat him with kindness. He is to be pitied.
     
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    Can you, RtWngaFraud, Johnny-C and wyly, as ambassadors to the minorities, let them know that they can assault (Kentucky, Ohio, DC, South Carolina, all yelling "For Trayvon"); rape sexually and anally with table legs, tie up, torture, suffocate and murder (Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian); beat with tree branches; assault, choke and stab 4 women (Boston, Amy Lord was murdered, the other girl was let go after Edwin Alemany asked her if she spoke Spanish and she said "yes"); call people "cracker" and "tree monkey" and beat them for money; beat a man with a baseball bat leaving him with brain damage, a dent in his head, a need to be spoon-fed, and deprived children; and shoot an Australian athlete for "fun" only so may times - before white people try to declare it a "hate crime"?

    We will get to it, before it gets too awful. We're really serious. We're really, really serious. We know Eric Holder hates us. Hey, actually, we're the minority.

    OK, forget it. We're so sorry for everything. How about the new gun rule is that only minorities can have guns?

    Tell them something. We're so scared.

    < reload, safety off >

    B.S. Lighter in left hand, keys through fingers in the other. No guns necessary. Ready.
     
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    Have to admit i didnt know that. So if i go to China, Africa, India, Japan, Korea ect ect im basically a god because i was born white? Wont get pulled over, they'll treat me special, they might even make laws for me to get jobs and extra programs for me?

    Id be very interested to hear from Chinese, Africans, Indians, Japanese and Koreans if they'll actually treat me as a superior because im white. Goshh, i just admitted i was white, a sense of shame has just come over me...........Hahaha nah wtf, not really.
     

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