Why do religious people have more children than non-religious people?

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  1. Blackrook

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    Why do religious people have more children than non-religious people?

    And this is especially true at the extremes among the Jewish faith.

    Orthodox Jews in Israel tend to have 10 children or so.

    Secular Jews in the United States typically have one child.

    Catholics have more children than Protestants, but this is less true since Vatican II.

    Mormons tend to have four or five children.

    Your typical atheist might not have any children, or one at the most.

    What is going on here?

    Why does religious faith cause people to have more children?
     
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    because polygamy makes more children, if you aint gay.

    More whores are imported into tel aviv, than child births
    with the whores?
    In america they can run away. It's hard to catch more than 1.
    Is notre dam vatican II?

    pops had 11 brothers and 1 sister and his mother still swept her own steps, even at 93

    And there is a golden chalice that his grandfather donated to (Vatican number 2) Notre dam/holy cross with his grandmothers name on the bottom.
    from each wife perhaps but they have the largest families that I know of
    Which ones are mine?

    the op is crap
    perhaps because to the religious, polygamy is normal or perhaps that the whores are never the same

    If you get orthoxy most purport abstinence, but many go pedophile. Why is that?
     
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    Simple answer: If you tell people that they'll be tortured for all eternity for using birth control, they are highly unlikely to use it.
     
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    The Jews and the Mormons do not have teachings against birth control, so that isn't the reason.

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    This is entirely troll, so I'm putting you on ignore.
     
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    Orthodox Jews DO have teachings against birth control. Mormons have a direct commandment to "be fruitful". Birth control is only considered acceptable to Mormons if they don't have the means to raise their children.
     
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    You see, I think that religious people see children as a gift from God and not a burden to be dealt with. It's an entirely different philosophy.
     
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    What does it say in the Bible?

    Sirach 16:1-3 (CEB) =
    "Don’t wish for a multitude of worthless children, and don’t be glad about sons and daughters if they are ungodly.
    If they have children, don’t rejoice over them unless they respect the Lord. Don’t be confident that they will live, and don’t rely on their great number. One is better than a thousand, and it’s better to die childless than to have ungodly children."
     
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    Even the devil can quote Scripture.
     
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    Alternatively, religious people don't have a strong understanding of personal responsible because they think that if they're good, 'God will provide'. Atheists, on the other hand, recognize that doubling the population of the planet ever few years would quickly lead to very bad things happening, and so for the good of everyone, restrain themselves.

    Or maybe everyone has different reasons, and it's not something simple that can be explained in a sentence or two.
     
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    Feel the heat? The lake of fire is very close.
     
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    But I know it, and will do what I can to avoid it. You won't.
     
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    The scriptures and leaders of the religions mentioned in the OP pretty explicitly state that their followers are supposed to have more children. It's a major component of spreading "the word." And, most actively discourage birth control. And, the more backwards and fundamentalist forms see women as little more than baby factories. I'm a little surprised that anyone would even ask the question. Seems obvious.

    I have two children, by the way, and I don't plan on having any more. I think it's irresponsible for a couple to have more than two children, especially when there are so many already in this world who need loving families to go to. My wife still wants more kids, but we'll be adopting when it comes time to expand the family further.
     
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    For (*)(*)(*)(*) sake, stop projecting your own bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on atheists. I know a bunch of atheist parents. None of them see their kids as "a burden".

    And I know at least one pair of Christian parents who do.
     
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    Higher income / more educated people tend to have fewer kids.
     
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    Best indicator of likely child numbers is education of women.
     
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    You feel that your habit of spreading falsehood and calumny wont be any problem?
     
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    I'm fairly certain that many see it as a commandment, a duty to their religion and/or god. An obligation, almost. Also, it's nice to know that I'm not a typical atheist according to Blackrook.

    Sigh. I knew it had to be only a matter of time before you showed your true colours again. It's lucky I don't consider all Christians to be vile, hateful, prejudiced little bigots like someone who would write that kind of drivel.
     
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    Now now you know he is doing all he can to avoid the 'lake of fire".
    WHAT would he be like if he were not trying his best?
     
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    Do you have a citation for any of this data or are you just throwing stuff out their that sounds good to you?
     
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    If that were true, then perhaps they shouldnt have children.



    lying is completely different than telling the truth

    Children come from people doing the wild thing. God has nothing to do with it.

    Doctors can enable more child births with virgins by test tube babies, than alll the gods combined, ever did.

    Everyone should ignor you

    and I hope that you dont have children so 'we the people' do not have to explain to them that their own parents are liars. It is actually very sad to have to tell a child that their parents are too weak to be honest, with even themselves.
     
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    If religious people have more children than non-religious people in the future, then religious people are, long-term, worse for the planet's health than non-religious people. Yet another reason to stop believing in magic and become an atheist.
     
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    what is funny is think and compare reality:

    America has 300million (approximately) in total population

    how many are in china?

    indian?

    The op is just stupid.
     
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    Birth rate tends to drop in proportion to womens' education. Then there are factors like Vatican roulette.
     
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    Just noticed this little gem. I might equally well ask, "why does selling ice cream cause shark attacks?" because those two things are correlated.

    For the hard of thinking, what I'm pointing out is: Correlation is not causation.
     
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    That's the excuse religious people have when you point out the contradictions of their own doctrine. Next.
     

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