Jesus; an habitual liar.

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    true, I agree, but no one claims a newspaper is the word of a God

    if they did claim that, sure many would point out the inconsistencies to prove it was indeed not the word of a God (think JW's have their own publication don't they?)

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  2. Woody

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    You have to have existed to lie.....think about it? Any lies told are by the writers that created this character. They could make him lie or tell the truth.
     
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    She's smart enough to not have a dead, lying, magical invisible friend, unlike you.
     
  4. culldav

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    How many billions of people over the centuries have asked that insidious thing for help, as per 6 & 7 of my message, and been completely ignored?

    The cruellest thing anyone or anything could do, is deliberately ignore another suffering individuals desperate cries for help.

    Only an insidious, evil, bastard omnipotent being could treat other living entities like that, and that doesn’t say much about the Gods humanity have concocted.

    I’m really sorry you don’t see 6 & 7 as direct lies.
     
  5. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    I'll bet the things that you prayed for and got were things that you actually had control over yourself. By praying for them you focused your attention on them and then took steps to make them a reality for you.
     
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    Then Jesus was not 'an habitual liar'.
     
  7. taikoo

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    to a fundy there are no inconsistencies
     
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    The holocaust is evidence god doesn't answer prayers.
     
  9. Bishadi

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    That is borderline sick

    but i cracked up.
     
  10. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    If there was a holocaust then God answered Hitler's prayers.
     
  11. Alfalfa

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    You wonder sometimes in the battle for heaven of the wrong guy won.
     
  12. culldav

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    If the bible is to be interpretated as non-fiction, then the book of “Job” describes an evil God instructed and commanded Satan to tempt Job into sin

    In the Book of Job, ha-Satan is a member of the Divine Council, "the sons of God" who are subservient to God. Ha-Satan, in this capacity, is many times translated as "the prosecutor", and is charged by God to tempt humans and to report back to God all who go against His decrees.

    Every bad deed Satan preformed, he was under the direct control of that evil God, and under instructions to do the bad deeds.

    I also believe the wrong entity won this battle, and that’s why human being and all living things have been abandoned like garbage on a scrap heap.

    I believe humanity has been conned, and the true evil is the entity known as God.

    What kind of pure evil sends our their side-kicks to deliberately tempt living beings into sin, so you then get the opportunity to punish them.
     
  13. culldav

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    What kind of insidious monster forces someone or something into torturing other living being for their enjoyment and pleasure?

    The evil Christian God that forced Satan to do his dirty work. No wonder Satan rebelled against this evil entity known as God.

    Even sent its own son to be tortured and killed, because it was to cowardly and gutless to do it itself.

    What an absolute monster people have be worshiping and asking for help. Probable have more success praying to the nearest snake or spider for help; they would have more empathy and compassion.
     
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    Why doe so many people believe in ethnocentric Jewish and Arabian religious fairy tales when they aren't Jews or Arabs themselves?
     
  15. culldav

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    Because it was psychologically forced upon them by their parents when they were young, and didn't have a choice.

    Forcing any child into any religious indoctrination before they reach adulthood, should be considered psychological child abuse.
     
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    As I thought, you can not qualify your statement.
     
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    I'll ask him in the morning after break. Jesus is picking corn tomorrow." You reapath what ye soweth" Caribbean Gold #37(non GMO)
     
  18. happy fun dude

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    These are the gospels you cite. They were all written by different people regarding the same events. Basically, they are witness statements. Whenever things occur, you'll often notice different witnesses say completely different things. If you read them all you can get a general idea, which is all you really need.
     
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    Basically He's talking to His disciples, the ones He chose and maintained a very much close relationship with. I don't think He meant to say it to the goats/weeds.
     
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    As would happen if you were applying for a grant, the words are glanced at, deemed unresponsive, and, circular filed.

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    is that why the witnesses who signed their names under oath, regarding what they saw of J Smiths gold books all said the same thing?
     
  21. taikoo

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    You might not want to demonstrate that most anyone is more capable, by so consistently failing to show you can give a substantive response when challenged.
     
  22. happy fun dude

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    I have no idea what you're on about. You can coordinate a story. But I said that witnesses often contradict, not always contradict.
     
  23. Prof_Sarcastic

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    Lol what? Maybe next time pay attention to who you're replying to?
     
  24. Vicariously I

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    Unfortunately unless he was accidentally in the wrong thread he actually replied that to you on purpose.

    Either way it made me laugh pretty good....and still does every time I read it.
     
  25. taikoo

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    Bein' too subtle I guess.

    Those Mormon "Witnesses" all say exactly the same thing!
    That is fishy in the x-treme.

    Of course, if one thinks that the J Smith of J. C. stories
    are all true, then who knows what else they might think is
    reasonable.
     

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