Plea to President Obama to Not Engage In Syria...

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  1. happy fun dude

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    I'm not sure about 1943 but let me put it like this. Today, in the present tense. It's corporate policy. Politicians follow the will of those who bribe the most, and that's corporations.

    Actually, you are right now that I think about it. Our national policy is a corporate policy. I think we're both right.
     
  2. ballantine

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    Bingo.

    Obama is doing the same thing now, that he did during Benghazi. ("He" and "they" the administration).

    First they came (forcefully) with one lie, and when that didn't work they came out with another one. Time after time they did this - for 13 whole days - until the public domain evidence made it impossible to do so any more.

    And then after that we got treated to six more weeks of lies, including all three of our directors of national intelligence, a few State Department people, and the President's own spokesman.

    Sorry Mr. Obama, your word just isn't good enough any more. You blew it, pal. You lied and people died, just like your predecessor.

    Heh heh - and that's not even the "big" lie, right? How about the "hope and change"? Look around - do you see any change? All I see is the same old same old. Obama has been doing everything Bush did, including the NDAA, the AUMF.... I don't need to make the list, do I? Obama is just Bush on steroids, that's all. There's no change, and very little hope.
     
  3. SkullKrusher

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    As I recall, Syria, with the same Assad the dictator, was a participant country ALLIED with USA in the first Gulf War, against Saddam Hussein.

    Previous to that war, Saddam Hussein, the dictator, was given weapons by the USA and considered an ALLY against the Iranians.

    Ive come to the conclusion that USA foreign policy is run by an elite group of TOTALLY disingenuous people, irrespective of which party they hide themselves in.
     
  4. Tommy Palven

    Tommy Palven Active Member Past Donor

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    Is it possible that the bombing of Syria, if it occurs, is not just the typical product of the US Military-Industrial-Congressional Complex in conjuction with an Israeli tale wagging the US State Dept dog? Could Obama actually have an exit strategy that we are somehow missing that might relate to Bibi Netanyahu dissing him in front of the US Congress twice, and Obama's inclination to continue the Arab Spring irevolts in the repressive authoritarian theocracies of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, etc, or is this the epitome of wishful thinking?
     
  5. happy fun dude

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    Syria were our friends, but we backstab. Same as Iraq. We were friends, until we backstabbed him. We are friends with whichever dictator or terrorist organization is convenient for us, until we decide we want something else, so we'll overthrow.

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  6. happy fun dude

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    You are spot on. There's no rhyme or reason. Obama is demolishing loads of Yemenis, claiming he's targeting AQ.

    Meanwhile, he is providing weapons and funds to AQ in Syria, instead of destroying them there.

    I thought AQ was the enemy.

    Of course, I doubt he's actually attacking terrorists in Yemen. More likely political dissidents of the brutal Yemini dictator.

    It doesn't follow.

    We give free weapons to Egypt, there was a revolution, a new government took over, and we gave them weapons, and they we had a coup de tat, and we give THIS government weapons too! How can they ALL be the good guys?
     
  7. Allegiance

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    I have no idea why Israel is being involved all the time in stuff it has nothing to do with ! Israel has a basic interest to keep its borders clean of risks and would do everything to assure it but the attack on syria is only up to Obama's resolution only.
     
  8. Professor Peabody

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    Russia's only Navy base on the Mediterranean Sea is in Syria.
     
  9. SkullKrusher

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    Man, we must be the only few people who are on to this imminent strike which is about to happen in Syria.

    In the last 24 hrs its gone from report of gas attack to now talk of almost certainly launching 180 or more cruisemissiles, WITHOUT EVEN CALLING CONGRESS BACK!!!

    WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???
     
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    We need not put boots on the ground to create another war zone for the US. Perhaps Assad will put boots on our soil.islamos do not necessarily fight wars by conventional means of soldier to soldier. It may take years and come through a proxy but Assad will have revenge against America.

    IMO Bush should have gone after Osamma and friends en force. Do whatever it took to get them including cross borders whenever necessary. IE fight like Islam but with power and fury they've never seen.
    Once that mission was accomplished spend the money we ultimately used for nation building to buy AK,s and ammo from our friends china and Russia. Spread em around and walk away. There wouldn't be much left over there but sand,oil and bones.
    So far I have seen nothing in the ME worth spilling American blood.
     
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    Stinking government cannot secure our border. Now Syria!
    Stay the hell out unless approved by Congress.
     
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    We don't fight wars and give out military strategy from the votes in congress, that doesn't make sense. Just saying a strike is imminent gives information to the enemy.

    The President knows whats best for the country with the information he has, if he thinks war is best we must trust him as he is the Decider.
     
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    The reason you vote on war is so you don't end up in an unpopular war (like Vietnam). Typically, it's a good idea to make sure you have the support of the people before sending them off to die.

    Second issue here is that we would be helping an enemy that we are currently at war with. Al-Qaeda is the ones we would be flying out to rescue. I don't really think you are going to find a lot of support for that.
     
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    The first missile or ANYTHING which starts impacting Syria, before there is an approval by Congress WILL RESULT in IMPEACHMENT of this President Barrack H.Obama, and I do hope that it will ALSO cause there to WAR CRIME charges brought against the former Presidents George W.Bush, Bill Clinton and George H.W.Bush.

    Also, charges need to be brought against all these 4 Presidents for selling out the USA to Corporate Internationists, imploding our economy thru Nafta, and subjecting our citizens to the Orwellian world of terror via their expansion of CIA and NSA, and the creation of TSA,HSA, the Patriotic Act and National Security Acts that have ripped our Constitutional 4th amendment to shreds.
     
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    You should read your history, particularly events leading to WWI.

    The war made no sense for anyone yet proud, vain politicians and monarchs stumbled into one anyway.

    The Bible does not say when the last war will happen but does say where.

    Armageddon is a place as well as an event.
     
  17. AmericanNationalist

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    But it's not better, I believe Syria is far more of a stake than say Libya or Iraq before it. I really do respect(fear) Russia's red line as it regards Syria. Also, we have not been able to get that confirmation and Ban-Ki Moon says it'll take us a few weeks to get that information.

    If you really want to sacrifice American lives on the ground for absolutely nothing, it won't kill you to wait a few weeks. If you think "waiting" would prolong the war, the war would've occurred with or without us.

    We're not doing the Syrians a humanitarian service. We're doing this, if for no other factor; For the Oil Contractors(what else is new).
     
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    I think the lib Obama apologists are in a quandary

    If bush were still president Libminority and fellow libs would attack like a pack of hungry dogs.

    But this is their Fuhrer and libs are not programmed to disagree with him.
     
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    MaO'Bama is pretending to be a real man, but like everything else, he is an utter failure. If hisloserness was going to do something he should have done it two years ago when what was happening in Syria was truly a movement to overcome tyranny. Now the movement has been polluted by Hezbullah and Al Queda and anything that Obama does now will benefit one enemy over another enemy from an American perspective. Plus, he will then be compelled do more because whatever he does militarily will not be enough and will need to be done a again, and then that will compell Russia to back up with action their warning that we do not interfer and that would include Iran as well. Syria is an Islamo problem. Now that it is too late to do anything doing something will be a disaster. Anyone who advices him to do this foolish thing is a fricking idiot. But, that is who MaO'Bama has surounded himself with anyways.
     
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    That has what to do with the OP? Nothing, moving on.
     
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    MaO'Bama is trying to use "W"s reasoning to do this thing. Our little Barry is an empty suit, he is a hollow man. You are right and I agree with you.
     
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    And from the "This looks like the same thing that Bush did but fail to see the real difference because of blind partisan support for the most incompetent leader in the world today" files we have this little gem.
     
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    Exactly.

    Some libs are just not intellectually honest enough to criticize their president so they babble incoherently.
     
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    Actually, this has nothing to do with the Oil Contractors. This has a lot more to do with securing more of a majority in congress prior to the midterm elections. Since we don't have anything measurable to judge them on like the economy, and jobs, this extends an olive branch.
     
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    They have to go with their strengths.
     

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