No Right to bare arms

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Kt1, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This reminds me of this thread.

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  2. debrarae

    debrarae New Member

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    A) You did not request anything 'gently'
    B) You posted a personal attack, then went on another tangent
    C) Nice of you to ignore the links I posted proving you wrong. But then 'pretending' that actual evidence proving Democrat's wrong (even when it comes from 'their' leaders ...such as 'whitehouse.gov' and 'cnn'); is their 'hallmark'.

    So much for 'your' input.

    FYI ...for 'your' enjoyment ...here are 'those' (from the liberal sources no less) links (which prove the democrats play 'politics' using criminals to push their 'agenda') again.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/preventing-gun-violence

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/04/politics/obama-guns/index.html

    Thanks for 'playing'.
     
  3. debrarae

    debrarae New Member

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    Wow now you accuse me of NRA Fear Mongering.

    Please post which links I posted from the NRA? Oh that's right you can't.

    You just posted a personal attack without one shred of proof. <<<MOD EDIT: Personal attack removed>>> the LINKS I posted came from WHITEHOUSE.GOV and CNN.COM

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/preventing-gun-violence
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/04/politics/obama-guns/index.html

    <<<MOD EDIT: Inflammatory post removed>>>
     
  4. nemocplus

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    The reason for the right to bear arms being in the constitution is only partially for self defense. The main reason is because the USA broke away from an unjust government with the use of guns. The point is that everyone should have the right to a gun so when the government wants to stop part of the country from getting its independence or having a revolution against the USA when it becomes unjust and the representatives stop doing what the people that elected them want them to do. This means that criminals should have the right to bear arms since if the government wants to stop a revolution they will simply imprison and label those who oppose them criminals so they cant have guns to fight them.
     
  5. DixNickson

    DixNickson Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it may be against the law to be a criminal in America too :). We are a judicious people and we judge the act(s) of our criminals (save those presently in office) on a case by case basis :).
     
  6. Kt1

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    Oh god bless the USA, only 13 dead this time!!! Guns, guns,guns!!!!!
     
  7. Kt1

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    So blinded by stupidity!!!! Washington only 12 dead, just another crazed gunman ,

    Oh buts it our right to bear arms yada yada yada !
     
  8. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not to mention mentally ill and loving violent video games. I do wonder what will the liberal media do? The guy wasn't white, was a liberal and Obama supporter and didn't use an AR-15. He bought a pump shotgun (Biden's suggestion) and not much ammunition and passed a background check. I guess more gun laws would have fixed that, right?

    How about this:

    Back in 1993, the Clinton administration virtually declared military establishments "gun-free zones." As a result, the policy banned "military personnel from carrying their own personal firearms and mandates that 'a credible and specific threat against [Department of the Army] personnel [exist] in that region" before military personnel 'may be authorized to carry firearms for personal protection." Indeed, most military bases have relatively few military police as they are in heavy demand to serve in Iraq and Afghanistan"

    Now that most of these shooting occur in the liberal utopia of "gun free zones", you would think they would get a clue. Not so, they will double down on stupid.
     
  9. CaptainAngryPants

    CaptainAngryPants New Member

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    With our leaders and representatives so busy destroying the Fourth Amendment it must be the perfect time to start messing with the Second Amendment. An unarmed populace is easily ruled.
     
  10. Servus

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    Yet another skewed, uninformed argument. I suggest you do yourself a service and read the Constitution before you chime in on what you think is outdated; the document has kept this country afloat for many years, unlike your idiotic rantings. The right to bear arms shall not be infringed, and that's simply how it is. Take away guns, I'll just stab you, or mix some ammonia and bleach up. Take those away, and I'll beat you to death. You should search your soul and contemplate the forces that are really corrupting America and driving people to snap, because it's not the gun market.
     
  11. CaptainAngryPants

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    Probably more than any other single issue, expansion of federal gun control laws has the potential to create a constitutional crisis. In the aftermath of the President's re-election polls showed that up to twenty five percent of the electorate in some states would vote for secession. Can anyone imagine what would happen if there were to be an actual crisis?
     
  12. Thehumankind

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    I do not know how bearing arms would protect school children from lunatic gunmen,
    do children have to bear arms as well?
     
  13. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    There is about one adult for every 15 or so kids in a typical elementary school (teachers, librarians, teacher's aides, secretaries, counselors, custodians, cafeteria workers). We trust these people with our children's minds and futures, I would have no problem trusting most of them with guns as well.
     
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    So if the three losers ran him down with their car you would feel better?

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    Its going to be more than just a crisis.

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    No, minors dont have that right.
    But teachers and administrators have the duty to protect them at all costs.
     
  15. Siskie

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    Pretty sure the Supreme Court already settled this dead and badly beat horse.
     
  16. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You should address that issue with the police.
     
  17. Thehumankind

    Thehumankind Well-Known Member

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    And no need to employ school guards.
    is that it?
    I don't know if it would be nice to look at,
    for school teachers and custodian slinging kalashnikovs.:)
    A good nurturing of that young mind?

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    Primarily towards school authorities,
    I guess.
    and the armed men outside the school.:)
     
  18. Thehumankind

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    I think it should be educate them at all cost,
    it's the school guards and school administration obligation, not theirs.
     
  19. Kt1

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    So another 12 shot in Chicago! Just a standard day in the USA.

    Very quick to go to war , yet continually stand by and do nothing to curb these incidents. They are swept under the carpet and are not heard of again.

    It's in our constitution yada yada yada!!!
     
  20. perdidochas

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    Have the males have the guns in ankle holsters.
     
  21. RPA1

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    Well.......one can't nurture a dead child.
     
  22. pakuaman

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    Why dont you ask the Australians what happened to the violent crime and murder rates after guns were ban in Australia.
     
  23. Thehumankind

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    If only a complete gun ban for the civil populace were imposed,
    then I think none of this would happen.

    and many other related incident here.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

    And arming school teacher would result in a firefight,
    perhaps killing the gunmen,the teachers, and more worse
    the school children.
    A major disadvantage of owning a gun on such a civil peaceful place far away from war torn battlegrounds.
     
  24. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gun bans are like declaring your city a 'nuclear free zone', it is an exercise in futility. Guns are ubiquitous.

    A gunman is typically only stopped by other men with guns in these incidents. There is absolutely no reason a teacher could not be trained the same way police are trained. The haphazard 'firefight' argument is popular among gun banners who either don't know any better or have some political agenda to push. But let's take it down to a personal level...If YOU were hiding under your desk would you rather be armed or not armed?
     
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