Texas father who beat rapist to death not going to jail.>>>MOD EDIT<<<

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  1. Questerr

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    If you have the option of beating a rapist unconscious and sending them to prison or beati g them to death and you choose death in pursuit of vengeance, the circumstances shouldn't matter. You are at that point a murderer and deserve to go to prison.
     
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    Jail is a particularly ineffective system. For as many millions we have incarcerated, how many(if any) have we reformed? How has this made the world a better place? I think it's more effective to put down the most serial of criminals, just like rabid dogs.
     
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    Yet that is not the job for vigilantes to decide to do.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    This is the law for every state in the union. Rape is a deadly felony. The right to protect others works for the good Samaritan just like the victim, so basically anyone that witnesses a rape has every right to kill the rapist to stop the attack.
     
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    Nonsense. The best child rapists are ones with bullet holes in their head.
     
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    I would like to put out there that I would have castrated the guy before I killed him.
     
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    I wouldn't consider it taking the law into his own hands. I'd say it is more like he reacted like a human being. Your 5 year old is being raped and you think you'd have any form of self control. Probably not, you mentally snap and the person that made you snap is in trouble.
     
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    That isn't up to private citizens to decide.

    Justice is not and should not be in the hands of individuals.

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    And then you go to jail for murder. That's how civil society works.

    Vengeance and passion are not reasons to justify murder.
     
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    It's NOT 'murder'...... when a dad catches a pedophile rapist w/his pants down, attempting to rape his 5 yr old daughter and beats him to a pulp that he dies, it's manslaughter and the circumstances justifies it....

    Why do you libs always express more concern over the death of pedophiles/rapists/criminals than you do the victims?
     
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    Protection of others via the use of deadly force is legal.
     
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    It isn't manslaughter. Rape is a deadly felony. You can kill to stop it. On e you witness a rape, it is reasonable to think deadly force is necessary. Why? Rapists are horrible people and dangerous and stopping a rape is a dangerous activity. This but of wisdom comes to us from the Brits. Those people who use to run an empire, but now have NHS. It is the law in every state.
     
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    My liberal cred is pretty clear and I too have fought for justice for murderers. If a man encounters a rapist in the act especially of a child, attacks and eventually kills the rapists it should be investigated but I see no crime here. Conspiracy theories not withstanding. It is part of the legal code to allow both for the protection of others and to take emotion into account.
     
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    No, emotion would only play in to reduce charges. This is a justified act. Stick with the protecting the life another and that post is accurate. Investigate to make sure the claim is true, no evidence to the contrary equals case closed.
     
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    Did you read the article ? No jail .....
     
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    this is the best news I've read in a while. As a dad, I would have done the same thing. You protect your loved ones first and foremost and don't think of the consequences. Their well being must always be your primary concern.

    Curiosity: Do we know if Senor Moreno happened to be an undocumented citizen?
     
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    It is a travesty all the way, no matter what viewpoint.
     
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    I found the whole story disturbing.... but most normal people don't salivate at homos, pedophiles, race baiting, raping and killing. This story has all the above and is just a cornucopia for PF posters.
     
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    :roll:

    There is NOTHING "liberal" in this inane and ridiculous comment, apparently designed to be "quote fodder" for the rest of the Righties!

    To be "THE resident liberal", someone who acts like a troll would have to be a "liberal" in the first place.
     
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    sooooo, on which side do you fall here?

    You support the rapist or support what the dad did?
     
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    Since you seem to claim the opposite, how about some examples of fathers who interrupted the rape of their young daughter by an older adult actually going to jail?
     
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    I don't enjoy reading about children being raped or attempted. It just seems these kinds of threads are pretty prevalent on this board and really have not a thing to do with politics.
     
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    What are you talking about? I want all criminals in this scenario to go to jail. You are the one who is soft on crime.
     
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    Yes it is, however individual circumstances matter.

    If you beat a rapist unconscious, then call the cops, you have done nothing wrong.

    If you beat a rapist unconscious, then make the conscious decision to beat them to death out of anger or revenge, then you are a murderer and should go to jail.

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    Yep a guy in Texas murders an illegal and doesn't go to jail, go figure.

    I mean Texas is known around the country for having the most reliable justice system, right?
     
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    So why in the hell aren't you in DC, in front of our White House, protecting BH Obama's continued occupation of his office??? He and his AG are the most lawless regime in our history since Abe Lincoln. He is planning to kill untold Syrians because they are on the side of Asswade, who may or may not has gassed people that are trying to kill him.

    In this case we see the liberal horde screaming that if they try to rape a five year old they don't want to have to look over their shoulder to see if the child's father is coming.

    Montya, stay the hell out of Texas, please... Defend these perverts in NJ but I wouldn't even advise you voicing your opinion in Austin, Texas where ninty percent of the far left freak live.

    The decision was made at the scene and then the local DA ran the case through the system until he had a dislocated shoulder.

    That is the way the liberal horde swings.

    Sure.. If that is as well as you comprehend English maybe you should refrain for commenting??
     
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    I would agree in this specific case, the father deserves no jail time because he does not seem to have intended to kill the guy and even tried to save his life while waiting for emergency services to show up, but given statements by many people in this thread, I stand by many of previous statements.

    Using deadly force to defend another person is legal, but it isn't a massive blanket of protection. It is difference between shooting a guy attempting to rob you and then calling the police and shooting a guy attempting to rob you and double tapping him in the head when you notice he is still breathing.

    The 1st is legit defense. The 2nd is murder.
     

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