Fast food employees walking out a good thing?

I have seen numerous disabled people working at resturaunts like McD's (as parking lot sweepers) and even places like Chili's and Applebees (as silverware rollers) Walmart is all the time hiring special needs yet none of the haters ever want to mention that because that doesn't fit the image of how rtwingfraud puts it, a fat cat driving fancy cars to their big house with pools.

I hired some elderly for dining room workers at Wendy's who were supplimenting their incomes.

I also hired a a girl that quit when I gave her 35 hours because anything over 32 hours took away from her welfare.... We scheduled her at 34 one week and she complained and told us why. So I purposely gave her 38 the next week and she quit.

I wonder what she's doing nowadays? (don't answer, that was a facetious question.... she's in her mid-30s blaming "fat cats" for holding her back and hoping minimum wage increases)

but I agree with you. Adults who are still flipping burgers (that don't have any disabilities that hinder learning) in their 30s, are only there due to poor life choices of their own

 

it's the same reason why all cash registers give change amounts for employees. When I worked it in the 90's, a register operator had to be able to make change in their head to the dollar and paper change to 5s, 10s, 20s, 50s, and 100s. I saw people who couldn't count back change and had to carry a calculator with them in their pockets because the register wouldn't do it for them.. Even now, whenever cash registers will do the change for you, I watched a girl charge 7.13 for whatever, the customer handed her a 20.00 and she accidentally pressed the "$10" button. She had to call a manager over to explain to her all she had to do was add a $10 bill to the change the register said.


Yeah.... that's the "fat cats" holding that girl back, let me tell you.....

 

If you believe I put any credence anything Putin has to say I got a bridge to sell, certainly you don't do you. Yeah his Russia is so much more exceptional than the US.

Wrong, government injecting itself into the market drives up the cost and brings down the level of service. Look to your own failing system.

"Back in the 1960s, (Claude) Castonguay chaired a Canadian government committee studying health reform and recommended that his home province of Quebec — then the largest and most affluent in the country — adopt government-administered health care, covering all citizens through tax levies.
The government followed his advice, leading to his modern-day moniker: "the father of Quebec medicare." Even this title seems modest; Castonguay's work triggered a domino effect across the country, until eventually his ideas were implemented from coast to coast."
Four decades later, as the chairman of a government committee reviewing Quebec health care this year, Castonguay concluded that the system is in "crisis."
"We thought we could resolve the system's problems by rationing services or injecting massive amounts of new money into it," says Castonguay. But now he prescribes a radical overhaul: "We are proposing to give a greater role to the private sector so that people can exercise freedom of choice."
http://civitasreview.com/healthcare/father-of-canadian-health-care-admits-its-a-failure/

Are dissatisfied nurses a sign of a failing health care system?

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/puls...ign-failing-health-care-system-145228869.html

Health system failing elderly and chronically ill, says report

Cancelled surgeries. Patients who need hospital care but who can't get it. Families forced to sell their homes to pay for an autistic child's treatment.

In person and online, thousands of Canadians who participated in a nationwide consultation over the past year say the country's health system is faltering badly and that more needs to be done to deliver care when and where it's needed.

The nation's "once proud" health system is fundamentally fractured and failing — especially for vulnerable groups such as children, the elderly, aboriginal peoples and those with mental illness — says a new report from the Canadian Medical Association.
http://www.canada.com/health/Health...ly+chronically+says+report/5233757/story.html

If you cannot see the fallacy of you assertion that the health care industry only wants to serve the 5% of this country that make up the wealthy then it is you who has been compromised my the progressive propaganda with your cliche'd pronouncements.

 

http://healthwise-everythinghealth.blogspot.ca/2013/03/unhappy-nurses.html

I am sad to read that a new survey reported in Forbes shows that nurses are the 4th most unhappy profession in the US. The survey evaluated 10 factors of the workplace including work environment, relationships with co-workers, compensation, and control over one's daily responsibilities. They required at least 50 employee reviews to qualify in a category. - See more at: http://healthwise-everythinghealth.blogspot.ca/2013/03/unhappy-nurses.html#sthash.eDkm5fdA.dpuf


http://globalresearch.ca/articles/BOE402A.html

Crisis of America's "free market" health care system

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120904162619.htm

Health-Care Costs Hit the Elderly Hard, Diminish Financial Wellbeing

Why do you want the Elderly to suffer bluesguy?

I never said it was perfect but it's a lot frigging better than what the US has

 

Walmart is pretty awesome about that they hire a ton of elderly and disabled people. One of my first jobs was busing tables at the Olive Garden, they had a girl with downs come in on weekends and roll silverware in the back. Sure she wasn't paid more than min wage but I think she just liked being an employee and being useful.

I guess with McDonalds I wouldn't really know because someone with a disability probably wouldn't be working the drive through.

I too deal with welfare employees refuse to work more hours because they want to keep benefits. They all have the newest smart phone though and plenty of money to go drinking.

 

My wife is/was a nurse (she just got promoted), the problem is the hours are long. You work nights, weekends, and holidays, and many of the patients are obnoxious and violent. In a more just society a violent patient would be denied care.

Honestly, you are delusional if you think we have free market healthcare and that the government can do anything more efficiently than the private sector.

 

Define violent patients. Your poor wife. Having to nurse the general public and not the rich white people who are oh so very polite. What a load of crap man. Way to sound like an elitist.
Denying someone healthcare is barbaric.

 

Violent patients are the ones that swing heavy objects at my 100 lb wife because they are on drugs or detoxing from alcoholism.

They probably have no way to pay and shouldn't be in the hospital in the first place.

 

Yes as government takes over more and more and pays less and less nurses have to work more hours with more patients and more crowed hospitals.


http://globalresearch.ca/articles/BOE402A.html

Crisis of America's "free market" health care system

And why are they suffering? Because they have been forced out of the free market and into government health care through Medicare and Medicaid.

How is it better? It takes longer to get health care in Canada if you can get it at all and no evidence the quality is better.

If yours is so much better why are you using ours so much and moving to reform yours to be more like ours?

In Canada, a move toward a private healthcare option
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/sep/27/nation/na-healthcare-canada27

The privatization of Canadian health care is moving into high gear

The future of Canada's public health care system has been the source of much debate in the past year. Several signs, ranging from laser-surgery clinics in Ontario to the possible opening of a new private hospital in Toronto, indicate that the trend toward privatization is growing. Dr. Hugh Scully, former chair of a CMA working group that looked at the issue, expects the trend toward privatization to continue because "it simply isn't the case that the coverage people have come to expect will continue to be provided through the public purse." Dr. Jeffery Machat, a laser-surgery specialist from Windsor, Ont., thinks privatization brings needed investment to Canada's health care system.
http://www.cmaj.ca/content/152/11/1877.abstract

 

In its poll, Ipsos Reid asked Canadians which system of funding they primarily support when given the option between a for-profit model, a not-for-profit model and a mixed model of both profit and non-profit.

It found that 53 per cent preferred the mixed model.

When asked to what extent they'd support or oppose the idea of Canadians being allowed to buy private health insurance for all forms of medically-necessary treatment that could then be obtained outside of the current system, including cancer care and heart surgery, 76 per cent supported the idea.

But, when only given a choice between a not-for-profit and a for-profit model, four out of five (80 per cent) Canadians said they preferred a not-for-profit model of health care — up nine percentage points since 2006.

At the end of the day, Canadians are hesitant to give up the values inherent in medicare, said Dr. Michael Rachlis, one of Canada's leading medical policy analysts and consultants.

Canadians, particularly those outside of Quebec, have a fragile national identity, Rachlis said, and medicare is one way to clearly differentiate us from the United States.

"Medicare becomes an important symbol to show that we are different from the Americans and that, in the United States, people are prepared to let other people die because they don't want to pay for their medical care and in Canada, we're different," Rachlis said. "We care more about each other."

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/...ey+access+health+care+poll/6850577/story.html

 

To determine which country has a better healthcare system let's compare a few statistics:

Infant Mortality rate:
Canada: 4.78
USA : 5.9

Mortality Rate:
Canada : 7.3
USA: 8.1

Life Expectancy Overall:
Canada: 82
USA: 79

Life Expectancy Males:
Canada: 80
USA : 76

Life Expectancy Females:
Canada: 84
USA: 81

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada-gets-high-ranking-for-cancer-survival-rates-1.309105

Canada has some of the best cancer survival rates in the world, and doctors are pointing to our much-maligned public health-care system as the reason.
In a report on worldwide cancer survival rates, Canada ranked near the top of the 31 countries studied with an estimate five-year survival rate of 82.5 per cent.
For breast cancer, Cuba had the highest survival rates -- another country with free health care. The United States was second, and Canada was third, with 82 per cent of women surviving at least five years.
"Canadians always tend to complain about our health-care system," Dr. Mary Gospodarowicz, a cancer researcher with Toronto's Princess Margaret Hospital, told CTV News. "But this study shows us that in an independent study done by external bodies, the survival of cancer patients in Canada is among the best in the world."

Not exactly the DIRE situation your retarded links described eh?

 

Apparently you missed the point that the fat cats want the pictures there, because they want to hire stupid, low cost people. They only "need to use pictures" because the big boys tell them they have to.

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Dude, Walmart is about the biggest offender when it come to employing people for slave wages. Do you know they ship in illegals by the busloads to work for LESS than minimum wage? Pull your head out of your azz, and take a look around.

 

It takes social morals for free to solve our illegal problem on a permanent basis through Commerce, well regulated among the several States; we already know Capitalism only supplies capital based morals for a price.

 

Great health care!!!!

 

sure... because stupid, low cost people can do the job just as well as someone with a master's degree. You don't need brains to do that job (which is why it's a min wage job in the first place)

The smart ones, the ones with good work ethic, use it as a rung in life's ladder. The ones who use it to support a family simply made poor work choices and poor life choices and should not be rewarded with pay more than what teachers/military makes simply because they don't want to improve themselves.

suuuuurrrreeeeee they do. I love your claim but yet no proof of it. I'm sure you can cite some tinfoil hat news blog.... but find a story from the big 4 news agencies that shows anything more than the mere accusation.

and all that to avoid recognizing that WM hires special needs people. I suppose just sticking them in a home is what's best, to you, huh?

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wow... congrats on dropping the racecard in. Racebaiters must win prizes for who can play the racecard in the most abstract way whenever a debate is heading south for them.

 

Great, you concede that pictures of hamburgers on keyboards is the creation and the requirement of the big boys who run slave labor camps. Great.

Yeah, Walmart DOES ship in busloads of illegals. They do it in my locality, so I know because I see it with my own eyes, AND, your ignorance of it is easy to remedy. Use your google.

The "special needs" people you mention? They make even LESS. Facts....Jack.

 

Well, I hear the 'livable wage' bill died in committee on the hill. Too bad, now min wage employees will continue to get paid what their work is worth... minimum wage.

 

you can't pay less than min wage..... sorry... despite how evil you want to believe those who are better off than you are, it simply does not happen.


So you make assertions, yet you don't back them up, then want me to search them out for you... .lol.


I concede the pics.... it's because they teach to the lowest common denominator.... Those with any brains quickly work their way up, or out of fast food. The ones who remain... NEED the pictures.

Who else is going to hire that type of employee

putting pictures doesn't doom anyone to slave labor for life. Putting pictures on actually allows the least intelligent to actually be somewhat productive, even if it's at a min wage level.

 

Would we be worse off simply taxing corporations for the cost of unemployment compensation as a more equitable solution to requiring an analogous, Iron Age ethic regarding employment as compared to work for labor.

 

Huh?

10 char

 

You are so blind with your ideology and contempt for the boogiemen of your imagination that you are unable to think about this rationally.

If the chain restaurants give higher wages to their employees the stores will have to charge higher prices or go under.

If they raise food prices and no one eats there any more because they can eat fast food cheaper elsewhere, they'll go under.

If they go under these fast food workers will be forced to try to compete for jobs at other fast food restaurants which pay the going rate they refused to work for in the first place.

Or, they try to find a better paying job.

If they can get new jobs at a higher wage elsewhere, good for them. But bad for the restaurant chain that went under and can no longer employ anyone. So there are now fewer jobs because of your poor striking workers.

And if they are unwilling to work for their previous wage scale and unable to get a better paying job then your striking employees will have accomplished the equivalent of hitting a walk off grand slam home run.

They struck for higher wages and succeeded in putting their employer out of business, reducing the number of low priced eating places in that area, increasing the pressure in that particular job market, making other fast food employers less likely to raise wages for their own employees because there are so many potential replacements waiting to snatch up those low paying jobs, and making themselves unemployed.

Boy oh boy are you a great economist.

That's a terrific way of attracting support for your ideas.

Making sure that they are dumb enough to be thoroughly exposed as unworkable and illogical and ill-conceived by your hated political counterparts.

LOLOLOLOL

 

Would unemployment compensation be simpler if it were a general tax on corporations instead of a bureaucratic function burdened on Individual Firms in the private sector?

 

Yeah one thing the left learned a long time ago, make people dependent on government and then they get too afraid to not have it even when theirs is failing and quality of care is failling so I could care less what they think about it, it is getting worse and is unsustainable as your own government just documented. They can prefer it all they want let's hear what they say when it total fails if they don't change it.

What a sorry reason to support a failing health care system, we can't provide more and better health care but we all like each other a lot. Funny how I find people who want the most people to have the best care and that care available to them not limited by government much more caring.

 

Life expectancy and infant mortality rates are not measures of the efficacy of a health care system.

Looks like you're an also ran with the US system at the top.

Cancer Survival by Country

July 16, 2008 -- Where you live plays a role in cancer survival, according to a new study that shows the U.S., Japan, and France recorded the highest survival rates among 31 nations for four types of cancer. Algeria had the lowest survival rates for all four cancers.

"This is the first direct comparison of so many countries as far as I am aware," says Michel Coleman, MD, a professor of epidemiology and vital statistics at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and the study's lead author..................

Coleman and colleagues drew on data from nearly 2 million cancer patients, ages 15 to 99, whose medical information was entered into 101 population-based cancer registries in 31 countries. The patients had been diagnosed with one of four cancers: breast, colon, rectum, or prostate cancers during the years 1990-1994. They were followed up to 1999, with the researchers comparing five-year survival rates.

The highest survival rates were found in the U.S. for breast and prostate cancer, in Japan for colon and rectal cancers in men, and in France for colon and rectal cancers in women, Coleman's team reports.

In Canada and Australia, survival was also high for most cancers.

The lowest cancer survival rates for all four cancers were found in Algeria."
http://www.webmd.com/cancer/news/20080716/cancer-survival-rates-vary-by-country

 

What other "employee" will the employer get offering them next to nothing? Look at it that way, if you can't understand that they DON'T WANT competent people. They WANT cheap labor. PERIOD.