How did the Nations come to the planet?

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  1. 4Horsemen

    4Horsemen Banned

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    If I show you, will you log off forever and crawl back into the hole from whenst you came? please say yes. I'm itchin' to post the scriptures.
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're itching to provide evidence of the claims in the Bible by using scripture... from the Bible?
     
  3. Stagnant

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    You know, it's rare that a statement holds this much delicious irony.

    You know, I already offered you (I believe something like 40 posts ago) a good jumping-off-point for your research - "The origins of human society" by Peter Boguki; the fact is that what you're asking for is essentially the combined total of knowledge of an entire scientific discipline, and most of your responses to answers have been "No, that's not true" without any elaboration.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I answered with validity back in post #11. You clearly ignored it because you have no challenge to The Book.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    citing the Bible.....as evidence for a claim in the Bible.


    lolol!!!!

    :)
     
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    I have decided to prove that Tigger and Eeyore actually existed.
    I shall now quote from "The House on Pooh Corner".
     
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    Pretty sure you meant "whence".
    I asked you before but you never answered me.
    Have you heard of the Fruits of the Spirit?
    Why don't they apply to you?
    Do you think Paul, no matter what color he was, was a liar?
     
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    Trial and error?
    Why yes, exactly.
    That's how Edison discovered the light bulb.
    Thousands of errors by the way.
    That's science for you.
     
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    Or in our case a bunch of drunk convicts and about 120 years ;)
     
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    You may have a point.
    You evolving into a dolphin would be a step up.
    Or ten.
     
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    Mankind didn't got anything scientific from the bible, christian church adopted Ptolemean astronomy which was both not christian and terribly wrong.
    This is the point OP tells us that Pi and Euclidean geometry comes from the bible?

    It is a common misconception that human traits need millions of years to develop , all not black people come from a small group of black people who left Africa ~70000 years ago. Humans in Europe faced a do or die situation because their color was unsuitable for the ice age so their skin pigmentation changed rapidly due to a beneficial mutation , to give you an example blue eyes which are not a beneficial mutation appeared for the first time ~10000 years ago and they have now driven black eyes in Europe close to extinction .
     
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    Hi 4H and thank you for defending the faith, we have been attacked in one way or another since before Christ died on the cross. Since my religious paradigm is kind of different from traditional fundamental Christian doctrine, I thought I would include it just to show at least one of the variations that exist in contemporary Christianity/theology etc. My ideas may loosely, and conditionally* be labeled as those of a 'progressive creationist'. Anyone unfamiliar with that term please Google it, this thing is too long or will be anyway! . Anyway I began life as an agnostic, when I was about ten y.o. and degenerated to atheist by the time I was in middle school. I though atheist was a logical progression from agnosticism due to the clear lack of evidence for God existence, especially the Christian form of deity. God is dead was the mantra of most of my freshman year professors. So since I was highly interested in science (primarily astronomy/cosmology) that’s the courses I took even the electives! Long story short I became a believer, prompted by new evidences of science, then faith and a NDE.

    The agonizingly large amount of background info was to prepare the members, especially my Christian brothers and sisters, for an decidedly atypical answer. And that answer is; ‘I believe evolution is one of sciences better theories, and I support it conditionally. That means evolution within a frame work. The parameters of the ‘framework’ that evolution can work is a moving target, but generally speaking I don’t think evolution occurs with the organism changing from a species member to say a something in the family category or any ranking above or more separated. The reason I tried to cover that in detail is from past experience of having those questions asked of me. All that said I think the races come from evolutionary changes within the framework of our species due to environmental pressures and other causes/events etc.


    reva
     
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    Disclaimer I am not going to use technical terms and science speak in this reply except where its needed *.

    Don’t let the science priests*, and those that disparage we Christians for whatever reason to fool you 4H. In this case it is you that should disparage them if it was not so unchristian like to do so, lol~

    * (don't get me wrong I do like and love some science obsessive unbelievers. It's just those haters that wake up in the morning and wonder what they can do to damage Christians or Christianity that I have a problem with, I love them as well its their deeds and manner that disturb me)

    According to evolutionary theory ALL OF TODAY’S CREATURES INCLUDING DOLPHINS ‘CAME FROM’** MICROSCOPIC LIFE, the science gets weirder but one celled life or even bacteria is far enough back to make my point. Actually The origin of animals remains somewhat a mystery to sciences version of the history of life. They are not sure how a single-celled organism changed to a trillion-cell collective. Indeed the genetic change required is unbelievable, well it is to me. 'Science' claims the reason they can not categorically explain the micro-life to macro- sized animals is that the intermediate species that might show how such a transition took place have long ago become extinct. Really? That may change, the science world is very excited about… snail blood. Lol Well, a tiny amoeba like critter that lives in the blood, called Capsaspora owczarzaki. Turns out to be a close link to we animal/mammals DNA wise. So hopefully for science a fossil record of something like that bug will pull sciences butt out of the expansive crack it finds itself in and fill in the terabytes of data they LACK to explain such a transition (from micro to macro microbe to animal). Until then to believe that bit of evolutionary biology requires more faith than Christianity IMO.
    So don’t feel bad your question and comments about dolphins were legitimate. However the snide answers and comments you received as critiques etc were um’ WRONG Oh or at best misleading!

    ** Came from means could be traced back if science is right and if they could only find fossils to support such a thing.


    reva
     
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    Seriously- you are just trolling.

    You started a thread and just insult anyone who disagrees with you.

    You have made it clear with your statements about polar bears that you don't even understand what the theory of evolution is. Claiming that we learned math from the Bible is just- bizarre- I know algebra is not even mentioned in the Bible.

    You don't have to accept Evolution- but so far I haven't seen a mature post by you in this thread.
     
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    NO, I'm not. What I'm trying to do is see who has a better description of how all the races got here than the Bible's account, because apparenlty the bible's account is not good enough for you, but the one organism splitting theory just don't cut it. If that were so, a tree should have human dna in it, and vice versa. THEY DO NOT. that's for the low level thinker that can't back that up with nothing. I wanna see where YOUR facts are to back it up since you claim the Bible's accounT of how the races came into the Earth is garbage.

    If you feel insulted because that theory is stupid on it's face, then you should. that's not my fault.

    your turn.
     
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    you're trolling AGAIN, by insulting people who believe in Evolution.

    a theory that you mock....while you have no understanding of it.

    people into polar bears?

    trees with human DNA?

    your understanding of Evolution is pathetic.
     
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    There were people sharing technology over 11,000 years ago.. Long before the Bible.
     
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    he's not your ally.

    he believes the Jews are Edomite Albinos, cursed by God.
     
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    He doesn't care.
    He likes to do long posts about himself. Any excuse will do.
     
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    derailed thread--closed
     
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