Muslims are being punished by God

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  1. GodTom

    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just like the Jews were punished and exiled time and time again. Just like Plague hit Christian Europe the worst.

    Do you agree?
     
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    Actually, it's BIGFOOT who punishes people, not "god". I have as much proof that it's Bigfoot as anyone else does that it's "god". And yes, He is very very angry with the Muslims, so he is punishing them. Or maybe it's ZEUS who is punishing the Muslims. Or maybe Odin, or Apollo, or Wotan, or Nanook, or Krishna? But he's too much of a prick to just face us like a man and tell us what he's doing. Or maybe, just maybe, the Qur'an itself is so insane of a book, that a majority of people who try to live by it end up bringing down society like Muslims clearly are doing, with their Qur'anically-inspired Jihad, barbarity, hate of non-believers, etc.
     
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    It does not take a rocket scientist to realize that the Koran is not the word of God and that the Koran is an evil book. Even people with a nominal sense of right and wrong and a minor ability to discern between good and evil are able to quickly recognize that the Koran is an intrinsically evil book. But was the Koran actually inspired by the devil himself. Did Mohammed have a visitation from Lucifer? There is overwhelming evidence in the Koran to prove that Mohammed did have a visitor from Hell – that the Koran is diabolical – that the Koran was dictated to Mohammed by Satan.
    When Mohammed was close to forty years old he was in a cave at the foot of Mt. Hira three miles outside Mecca. In this cave he believes he had a visitation from the angel Gabriel in which Gabriel said to Mohammed, “Read.” Mohammed said in reply, “I do not read.” Mohammed says Gabriel pressed the words upon his heart. When Mohammed woke up later on the mountain he heard a voice say, “O Mohammed! Thou art the messenger of Allah and I am Gabriel.”
    Was the spirit Mohammed heard and saw at Mt. Hira Satan disguised as an angel?


    “And when We (Allah speaking in the plural) said to the angels: ‘Bow down and worship Adam’ then worshiped they all save Eblis. (Elbis is the Muslim Lucifer)He refused and swelled with pride, and became one of the unbelievers.’ Koran, Surah 2:30.

    “And We (again Allah referring to himself in plural) said to the angels, ‘Prostrate yourselves before Adam, they all prostrated themselves save Eblis, who was of the Dijn, and revolted from his Lord’s behest — What! will ye then take him and his offspring as patrons rather than me? And they your enemies? Sad exchange for the ungodly!” Koran, Surah 18: 40.
    “And when We (Allah) said to the angels, ‘Fall down and worship Adam,’ they worshipped all, save Eblis, who refused: and We said, ‘O Adam! This truly is a foe to thee and thy wife. Let him not therefore drive you out of the Garden, and ye become wretched.” Koran, Surah 20:110.

    “When thy Lord said to the angels, I am about to make man out of clay, And when I have formed him and breathed my spirit into him, then worshipping fall down before him.” And the angels prostrated , all of them with one accord, Save Eblis, He swelled with pride, and became an unbeliever. ‘O Ebis’ said God, ‘what hindereth thee from prostrating thyself before him whom my hands have made? Is it that thou art puffed with pride? Or art thou being of lofty merit?’ He said, ‘I am more excellent than he; me thou hast created out of fire: of clay thou hast created him. Allah said, ‘Begone then hence: thou art accursed.” Koran, Surah 38:70.
     
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    No I don’t agree. All Abrahamic religions including Islam know the figure of Job. The story of Job tells us that suffering on earth is not necessarily a punishment from God. Even good and God-fearing people suffer. Sometimes it's even the best that suffer the most.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    since your God doesn't exist, any book that claims to be of him is a fraud.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    How many creepy supernatural entities are we supposed to believe in? The gods are nutty murderous gang bosses, Satan (Lucifer, the devil) is a lying deceiver, angels have numerous pairs of wings, demons possess people, Satan sleeps in your nose at night, and the goal of everyone is to become a zombie so that he can live forever with all of those creepy beings.

    Will someone please write a new religious fairy tale for the 21st Century?
     
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    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All the story of Job shows is that God is willing to take Bets, and with Satan of all beings.

    The bible specifically points out that God will target certain groups of people.

     
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    Worse things have happened to the Islamic world centuries ago.
     
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    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Could you name some examples? The Jews being exiled, and Christian Europe losing 50% of their populations is quite big deals.
     
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    Well there's the loss of Spain, the Nakba, the Siege of Baghdad by Mongol hordes...
     
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    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seriously those events aren't even comparable.

    Spain and Italy was Christian, Conquered by Muslims(Moors), then retaken by Christians.

    The Jews reclaimed their land.

    And Baghdad flourished once it left Muslim hands(13th Century), and then came back under Muslim control in the 17th century.
     
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    who is YOUR God?
     
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    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    Hence the supposed punishment.

    Hence the supposed punishment.

    You're clearly unaware of the value and importance that Baghdad was to the Islamic world in the 13th century.

     
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    The all knowing everything takes bets? No you be making stuff up.
     
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    Your quotes of queens are fake and elbis is not lucifer
     
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    I am not insane or schizophrenic, so I don't believe in any anthropomorphized "God".

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    sorry, but there is a 1,800 year statute of limitations on "reclaiming" land.
     
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    Most Jews, Christians and Muslims will disagree with your rather limited interpretation of the story of Job.
    The Bible points out that some prophets thought God would target groups of people. And you’re not the prophet Jeremiah, nor any other for that matter. You’re just full of spite and abuse the name of the Lord to vent it.
     
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    Gotta agree with your nemesis on this one. Many treatise have been written about Satan's wager with God.
    If you take it as history, it's pretty nauseating to me.
     
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    Muslims are not being punished by GOD, they are being DESTROYED by GOD....big difference.
     
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    Were the Visigoths Christians???
     
  21. GodTom

    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They were Arian Christians.
     
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    I always thought they were Germanic pagans.
     
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    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They converted

    The Arabs were Pagans once too. What is your point?
     
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    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By the time Islam came about(7th century), they were firmly christian.
     

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