Transgendered Teen Wins Homecoming Queen

Congrats Cassidy! All the really kewl stuff starts in California!

I think it really shows the progression of the times, too. What do you think?

 

Some people are just born in a body that their brain disagrees with. It's sad but I hope it's accepted into society and not seen as a way to get into conversations insulting and demeaning to them which was the intention of this thread. Grow up.

 

The doctor who did this should be put in jail. The same goes for the parents. Feeding hormones to a dumb mentally ill teenager is evil.

There are a million possible delusions and we consider all of them insane except for one. Once a society accepts transgenderism then theres no going back, at that point the only cure is to destroy that society and start a new one. You cant fix that kind of insanity.

 

Thankfully your kind is a dying breed in America.

 

There are some here who, if they stopped writing insulting and demeaning posts, would have nothing else to say.

I think it's great that this person has gotten so much support from her peers.

 

I wonder if he/she really deserved to win, or whether it was just another case of affirmative action.

 

10 bucks says he only won because he was transgendered - not to mention the school might have feared a 'discrimination' lawsuit if an actual girl had been awarded it instead of him.

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Well I think he's way more likely to reproduce than you are

But in seriousness, transgendereds are a much bigger 'dying' breed - they have over 37X higher suicide rates than regular people - it's a mental illness which should be treated with a therapist, not with pumping chemicals into a child at the behest of some quack getting a kickback from the sex change surgery industry.

It's a for-profit industry - since transgenders are less than 0.001% of the population - then of course they're going to 'push' for surgeries (just like the pharma industry pushes for people to take their drugs) - if they didn't then they wouldn't be in business, so this is inevitably going to lead to any normal teen who just 'feels a little confused' being told 'he/she's a woman/man' by some quack, pumped full of chemicals, and set up to have their genitals mutilated at age 18.

 

As a Libertarian, I have no issue with this. You can call yourself a man. You can call yourself a woman. You can can yourself an Australian alpaca. You can even demand that people address you as an oppositely gendered person as a condition of your friendship. As long as you don't send me the bill, knock yourself out.

The problem only arises if someone expects everyone around them to believe a lie or, even worse, suggests that there is something actually wrong with you if you don't believe the lie. Imagine that. Living in a world in which you are considered flawed - mean spirited or bigoted - if you don't accept something that is factually incorrect.

Sorry. Biology has spoken. This person will always be male.

There are four lights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_eSwq1ewsU

Wally

 

You might have a point if she were white.

 

In California I believe they've started offering taxpayer funded sex change surgeries for convicted felons in prison - a death row inmate was awarded one by a judge recently.

 

Are you under the impression that guys who think they are girls or girls who think they are guys think like this just for attention? For something to do? Biology has indeed spoken.

 

It's always the ones that rush to judgment who're the first to accuse others of judging.

Exactly what part of the OP do you consider insulting and demeaning?

 

They're legitimately confused children, who are exploited by depraved parents for their own gratification, or by depraved doctors for their own monetary gain.

Indeed it has - XY chromosomes are male, XX chromosomes are female - mutilating your genitals doesn't change that, just like Michael Jackson bleaching his skin doesn't make him a "white man".

 

"All the really kewl stuff begins in California" yeah that was condescending. And not your true feelings.

And we all know you hate progressives so saying "this really shows progression of the times" is meant to mock and disrespect these people.

Most of us are familiar with your anti anything that the bible doesn't agree with. Do you think we're stupud?

 

Science doesn't agree with it - what the Bible or any other Holy Book says is irreverent (not to mention, the Bible never mentions 'sex change surgeries).

The Bible never mentions it being a 'sin' to bleach your skin and pretend to be a white man either - but most people have common sense to know that Michael Jackson's actions are a sign of mental disturbance, and not normal behavior.

It wouldn't surprise me if eventually someone claims to have "race identity disorder" - then a white man could dye his skin black, and claim to be "African American" - and threaten to sue if he's denied access to college scholarships for African Americans.

 

"Her mom, Christine Campbell, told her she'd support her. Her father, slower to warm to the change, has not discouraged her."

Yeah looks like her parents exploited her for their political beliefs. Sounds more like parents struggling with it but at the same time won't abandon their child.

 

They did 'abandon' their child by caving and encouraging a mental disorder and disturbed lifestyle, instead of doing the hard thing and disallowing that sick behavior, and helping their child overcome their identity disorder and learn to be content with being a male

It'd be no different than a parent with an anorexic child encouraging them to be anorexic because that's just "who they are". It's evil and child exploitation, almost on par with NAMBLA's vision for America.

If it came down to it, I'd put my child in foster care before I'd encourage them to think that behavior is 'normal' - if I honestly was unable of coping with a disorder like that, then I'd hand my child over to someone who could do better - but I'd never destroy a child's life by encouraging them to believe such an unnatural 'lifestyle' is in any way normal or healthy. If the child ever commits suicide, the parents are to blame.

 

Do you believe pray the gay away - converting gay kids to straight kids programs are evil? And forcing kids into religion which is basically a cult, to be evil?

 

No, you can't 'pray' the gay away. - that's scientifically impossible. And 'transgenderism' is not the same as homosexuality.

If it's a cult organization, then yes. There are some secular groups that experiment in conversion therapy that doesn't involve 'praying away the gay', but I don't know much about their methods or the science behind it.

Yes, cults are evil - but encouraging a kid to "be transgender" is about on the same level - it destroys their body and their life.

What if your kid is black but wants to be white? Would you encourage him to bleach his skin and undergo multiple plastic surgeries like Michael Jackson?

 

I'm happy for her. She actually looks pretty attractive as well.

 

Not at all. I don't have a problem with what they think. They can think whatever they want and I don't think any less of them for it.

However, a person's gender is assigned by biological processes during pregnancy. This is a well understood and documented scientific fact that has nothing to do with what anyone "thinks" about their gender or wether or not anyone is seeking attention. What they "think" about their gender is irrelevant to their actual gender. Yes, biology has spoken.

Having said that, I'm sure that most transgendered folks are perfectly nice people. =)

Wally

 

Fixed for scientific accuracy

Bugs Bunny looks pretty attractive in the old Loony Tunes cartoons when he dressed up as a woman - what's your point?

What if Michael Jackson had "looked really hot" after bleaching his skin and undergoing multiple surgeries?

Maybe the people who run NAMBLA's website would find your views more tasteful, I find them repulsive

Not to mention, he still has a (*)(*)(*)(*)

 

Or maybe some people are born into societies that have arbitrarily rigid views on gender norms, and when said people don't conform to such norms, it causes confusion in their formative years which manifests itself as a generalized or specific dysphoria.

I see it as a sort of "psychological disorder", if you will, so insulting and demeaning them is clearly inappropriate, but I'm less concerned with "acceptance" and more concerned with "treatment". I think "acceptance" can sometimes turn into "enabling" or "encouragement" and that is not in the best interest of the patient. To be honest, I think the medical community - the psychiatric community, in particular - is to blame for a lot of the confusion because they don't do enough to distinguish between a person's sex and social gender norms. Male and female are just biological designations. They don't necessarily denote any specific behaviors or lifestyles. A female who cuts her hair short and dates women is no less a "female" than one who wears it long and dates men. Again, it's not a matter of perception or society, it's a matter of simple biology. Transgender people should be given therapy that stresses acceptance of their bodies by cultivating an organic and scientific understanding of their sexual identity. I think surgeries and hormones are dangerous and medically unnecessary practices that serve to reinforce the disorder, so that is why I'm sometimes wary of terms like "acceptance", even though I agree with the sentiment.

 

I think it shows the depth of the hatred high school aged people feel for the old, white, primarily rightwing, establishment. Being a part of that establishment (except for the rightwing part), I applaud them anyway.