Transgendered Teen Wins Homecoming Queen

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Smartmouthwoman, Sep 21, 2013.

  1. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,044
    Likes Received:
    138
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Maybe they could save some money and hit two birds with one stone by giving him a botched procedure and letting him die on the operating table. :smile:
     
  2. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2012
    Messages:
    12,934
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Because anyone who doesn't support child genital mutilation, or pumping lab-created "hormones" into a child at the best of some quack, is an "old, white male establishment republican"?

    What next? Pretty soon anyone who doesn't agree with NAMBLA's view that an 8 year old can consent to sex will be labeled an "old, white right-wing establishment Repubican".

    Not to mention, he hadn't even had a surgery yet - he's just a transvestite kid "claims he's a woman"- so he never should've been eligible for "homecoming queen" in the first place. I guess they feared a lawsuit, and being California I don't blame them.
     
  3. Munqi

    Munqi New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2009
    Messages:
    1,650
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    0
    But he will send you the bill - thats the point. Do you think he'll be able to get a job once he has cut off his penis? Who do you think is going to pay for his unemployment checks?

    The libertarian argument is bull(*)(*)(*)(*) until we actually live in a libertarian world - until then i will tell other people how they should live their lives.
     
  4. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2010
    Messages:
    40,617
    Likes Received:
    5,790
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why would that have any impact on his ability to get a job? Transgender people can find and keep work, you know.
     
  5. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2012
    Messages:
    12,934
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I'm just curious - can anyone give me a valid reason why "transgenderism" in general, is any more of a "real condition", than a black man wanting to be white (like Michael Jackson), or an anorexic woman "hating the way her body looks" and wanting to "modify it" to her liking (ex. is an anorexic woman just a "fat woman's brain trapped in a skinny woman's body")?
     
  6. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010
    Messages:
    26,347
    Likes Received:
    172
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Hey, now you're gettin' it.
     
  7. upside-down cake

    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2012
    Messages:
    5,457
    Likes Received:
    123
    Trophy Points:
    63
    You mean like the delusion that your point of view is the only acceptable point of view, and all other points of view are insane?

    Well, first, you have to consider that a male pschology being "trapped" in female physiology is certainly not fantastic or impossible but very probably. At the very least, what are the real distinctions between a man and a woman except for physiology?

    Besides that, what a person chooses to do with their bodies- so long as it doesn't hurt anyone- isn't really any of your business no more than what you choose to do with your ability to speak and how you use that ability is any of mine, so long as it doesn't harm me.
     
  8. reallybigjohnson

    reallybigjohnson Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2012
    Messages:
    8,849
    Likes Received:
    1,415
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This came up in a class discussion and the same people that thought it was OK to pump young kids with hormones and have surgery performed were actually against a hypothetical pill or neuro surgery that would make them normal.

    While I don't care what an adult does with their bodies I don't know how anyone can defend doing this to children. Once they are 18 go for it, till then its better to be safe than sorry. I had nephew's that walked around in their mom's shoes toting around her purse around the house, they eventually outgrew it. I have to wonder if any parents did this stuff to their kids and ended up harming them permanently?
     
  9. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2012
    Messages:
    12,934
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Not remotely so, I'm much younger than that demographic and adamantly opposed to it - I'm not a Registered republican, and actually a trangendered person is way more likely to be accepted in a "white country", than they would in a "Hispanic", or "African", or "Islamic" country believe it or not.

    And science is on my side, not the side of the child mutilator industry: For example, many children who exhibit signs of transgenderism simply grow out of them after adolescence passes, but if the radicals had their way - they'd be pumping hormone blockers into them at age 9, like a little lab rat in a cage

    Here's an example of a young person thinking he was a woman in adolescence, and being pressured into a surgery - then after the fact he regretted it, and realize it was just a phase of 'adolescent' confusion - now he's lost his genitals, and his whole life is ruined

    http://www.theage.com.au/national/i-will-never-be-able-to-have-sex-again-ever-20090530-br41.html

    Bottom line is, young people are pretty stupid and afraid to stand up for what's right out of fear that it's 'not nice' - but they develop more common sense and character as time passes.
     
  10. nom de plume

    nom de plume New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2013
    Messages:
    2,321
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    0
    C'mon, you're not seriously asking that, are you?

    All pageants, beauty contests, and the like everywhere are doing the same thing -- so much so that they have become absolutely meaningless. So meaningless in fact, that straight white conservative girls are no longer even bothering to enter these "contests."

    In the latest Miss America contest, a Muslim girl of East Indian descent won just because she is Indian. But everyone knew who the real winner was -- the blonde from Georgia.
     
  11. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2012
    Messages:
    12,934
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Then it's none of your business if a parent decides their 9 year old child is 'old enough' to have sex with a 40 year old man. Let the kids be kids people!
     
  12. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    55,913
    Likes Received:
    24,873
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    In a word, yes. But's that's another topic.

    Like I said, it's great to be stereotyped by people claiming to be non-judgmental.

    Not convinced a teenager's life-changing decision should be embraced by parents/doctors/school. Teens go thru a million phases from 13-20... and outgrow nearly all of 'em. Cassidy 'had hormone therapy since high school.' What does that mean? She's only 16.
     
  13. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    55,913
    Likes Received:
    24,873
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    First runner up Miss America was an Asian from CA. But actually, I'm surprised the girl with one arm didn't get it. Then again, she was handicapped by being white.
     
  14. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    55,913
    Likes Received:
    24,873
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    You have a point. I remember hating 'the Man' at 16 too, don't you? Good thing we outgrew it in time to make a living.

    Wonder if Cassidy will outgrow feeling like a girl?
     
  15. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010
    Messages:
    26,347
    Likes Received:
    172
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I'm not saying you are right or wrong, I'm just telling you how it came to be that the transgender was voted homecoming queen. The people who voted don't like your mores. And even though she is a young person, she's probably not too young to be toting an M-16 through an Afghani village. Ergo - she's old enough.
     
  16. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2012
    Messages:
    12,934
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    0
    They're high school kids, they don't like mores period, lmao

    10 bucks says though that 90% of the votes were from girls - girls tend to just be afraid to tell it like it is, for fear of being 'mean'

    Hm that's interesting - women are draft ineligible, then if the draft was ever reinstated, I wonder how many guys would claim to be transgendered "women" just to get draft exemption
     
  17. AndrogynousMale

    AndrogynousMale Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2013
    Messages:
    2,209
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Why does NAMBLA always get brought into these arguments? They have nothing to do with this.
     
  18. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010
    Messages:
    26,347
    Likes Received:
    172
    Trophy Points:
    0
    True. I think it's every high schooler's job to hate his parents' mores.

    It wasn't common, but it did happen during the Vietnam era.
     
  19. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    56,871
    Likes Received:
    22,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    "Here he is, Miss America".....LOL!
     
  20. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    56,871
    Likes Received:
    22,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    NAMBLA is brought into it to say "where does this nonsense end?". A society has every right to define what is deemed "normal" and what isn't.
     
  21. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010
    Messages:
    26,347
    Likes Received:
    172
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I don't think I ever outgrew it. It's why I quit a good company with a good salary to do it on my own, first chance I got. The people I worked under were not bad folks at all, I just hated answering to 'the Man''.
     
  22. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,139
    Likes Received:
    4,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Bingo

    Then what do they do? That's a pretty big Oops.

    If they want to do this then fine but until we can scientifically 100% prove that this isn't a "thing" then this should be reserved for people 18 years of age or older. There has to be a cutoff age and I don't think it should be during the age where kids go from gay to straight to bi to emo to gangster to rebel to angel to demon all within the span of a month.
     
  23. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2008
    Messages:
    27,801
    Likes Received:
    302
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I have to disagree that gender delusion has to be accepted as "normal" or "acceptable". Why is society moving closer and closer to pretendeing mental illness is normal?
     
  24. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2013
    Messages:
    22,710
    Likes Received:
    6,242
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Good for her / him , don't see why so many people care.
     
  25. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,139
    Likes Received:
    4,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think people are more concerned that its a teenager not really the fact that she used to be a boy. It now becomes a question of morality as to when is someone mentally "sure" that they were born in the wrong body and should parents allow them to undergo gender transformation procedures during the critical stage of adolescence.
     

Share This Page