Employers today can't find enough skilled labor to fill available jobs

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  1. Arthur Livingston

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    Dear friends,

    I have read there are plenty of good paying jobs available. Unfortunately, most young people who graduate from high school and many young adults who graduate from college these days don't have the skills to qualify for them! Most of these kids cannot solve simple math problems, and many of them read at the sixth or eighth grade level.

    And we wonder why today the unemployment rate among young people is so high!

    ""I can't tell you how many people, even coming out of higher education with degrees, who can't put a sentence together...If you can't do the resume properly to get the job, you can't come to work for us," he says. "We're in the business of making fasteners that hold systems together that protect people in the air when they are flying. We're in the business of perfection."

    The CBS news article and video follow.

    Employers can't find enough skilled labor to fill jobs

    As millions of Americans remain unemployed, U.S. manufacturers are having trouble filling hundreds of thousands of jobs requiring the skills to operate their high-tech machinery. Byron Pitts goes to factories to report on the problem and how employers are trying to solve it for a 60 Minutes report to be broadcast Sunday, Nov. 11 at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

    In Nevada, where the unemployment rate is the highest in the U.S., fastener maker Click Bond, Inc. wanted to expand by purchasing machinery from a Connecticut factory to use at its Nevada facilities. The company was forced to buy the entire factory because it could not find enough skilled labor in Nevada to run the machines. "We can't find enough students who are interested in pursuing these trades," says Click Bond COO Karl Hutter. "Because it seems hard?...Because it seems like you have to do math? I don't know," he says.

    Click Bond's head of strategic initiatives, Ryan Costella, says the problem is even more basic. "I can't tell you how many people, even coming out of higher education with degrees, who can't put a sentence together...If you can't do the resume properly to get the job, you can't come to work for us," he says. "We're in the business of making fasteners that hold systems together that protect people in the air when they are flying. We're in the business of perfection."

    Costella says the problem is worsening as more baby boomers retire from the workforce and must be replaced. "We just hoped that the education system would produce what we need and I think the recession...a lot of things have taught us, 'No, you have to engage,'" he tells Pitts.

    Click Bond and other manufacturers are battling the problem with a jobs training program at local community colleges. Students are taught to operate computerized machinery, read blueprints and learn trigonometry to make precise measurements - skills required on many of today's high-tech factory floors. For Ryan Vre Non, with a wife and child, the program was a savior.

    Though he may start at Click Bond or some other manufacturer for about $12 per hour, skilled machine operators can make $60,000 a year. Vre Non's acceptance into the program was the start of a career that changed his outlook. "Very life changing. My whole day is going to be different now," he says. "I don't have to wake up and go, 'What am I going to do now?'"

    For another student, it was a change from one career to another. Jamie Pacheco had been supporting his family as a commercial painter, but that work dried up in the recession. He looks forward to the challenge of a new career. "I like the fact that I have to put my brain to work to be able to apply myself to do this kind of stuff," he tells Pitts.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_1...-cant-find-enough-skilled-labor-to-fill-jobs/
     
  2. Montoya

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    They reap what they sow.....This is what happens when you lobby against higher education as well as specialized technical training.
     
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    Yep, those of us in the real world call them (*)(*)(*)(*)ing ignorant liberals, they are too (*)(*)(*)(*)ing stupid to dress themselves. :roflol:
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, this is what happens when you elect a community organizer to run the most powerful country in the world. He has totally (*)(*)(*)(*)ed it up, so I guess we can thank you for destroying our once great nation
     
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    They should offer internships.

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    They should offer internships.
     
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    No, this is what happens when you have people who tell students that they need to go to college to get a degree to find a job. OP is proof that isn't the case. Before I went to EMT school I thought about going to be a welder. I would start out making 60K a year with benefits. But I went to EMT school instated.

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    How about you address what he said. With the expection of few things everything Obama has touched has turn to crap. Look at the jobs in this country. There are more people working part time or less then part time then there are full time. Then there are those who can't even find jobs. But hey who counting right?
     
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    Must of them do
     
  8. Alwayssa

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    This has nothing to do with who was elected. We are seeing a shift in the labor force with technological improvements, specialized, hgihly skilled labor force through globalization, and a decentralized employer work group.

    http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB5070/index1.html
     
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    It's not the kids. It's just the fact that not everyone is destined to become an engineer, or do something science related. We specialize in our own things. We play to our strengths. That's what everyone does.
     
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    No, this is Obama shipping jobs overseas, or have you forgot about his good buddy Jeffery Immelt who farms 10's of thousands of jobs out of country, and they paid zero in income tax. You must be so proud, so try and keep the spin in your pants, because no one is buying it
     
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    No, rthis is what happens when businesses stopped training the skills they needed and wanted someone else to do their job for them. In the past, the employer would have taught you the welder job because that requires a specific skill set that knowledge cannot be transcended in books. Nowadays, you have to go to welder school just as you went to EMT school. At EMT school, a certain skill set of knowledge can be given to you in books as well as a another skill set that oyu will have with on the job training.
     
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    And you think shifting jobs overseas hurts the economy here how?

    BTW, those jobs that have been shipped overseas is nothing new. It been going on since the 1980's.
     
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    Yes, and who to blame? President Clinton. It's not the complete record to say "he had a surplus" VIA NAFTA as well as the banking de-regulations, Clinton led the storm that would become the Great Recession of the 21st century. The Bush wars were merely a catalyst that ignited the gunpowder.
     
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    And I suppose everyone is just ignoring the effect 50 million immigrants has had on the supply and demand curve over the last 20 years.

    If the media doesn't talk about it, it doesn't exist.
     
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    Our public education has been going down hill for decades despite the trillions of dollars American tax payers have been forced to contribute. Every year we get the same BS from Washington about the importance of funding education but little about education itself. Clinton wanted more computors, Bush went the testing route and Obama's soaked 10+ billion into his race-to-the-top initiative, wants government funded pre-school and begin a program that would eventually put universities under the government education umbrella too. And while Obama's been sucking all the air out of the room the government is quietly installing a standard called Common Core by attaching federal race-to-the-top funding to the adoption of CC standards which will only tighten the grip of the federal government on States while doing nothing to actually raise the level of education in our schools.
    So, basically what we have are progressives installing educational standards targeted at graduating more students, not better educated students. CC doesn't raise standards it only sets them. It's like the widening the goal post so the less skilled kickers have a better chance of making the team. Progressives justify it by calling it inclusion, fairness, building self-esteem, whatever, but the in the end it only weakens our educational system. CC is smoke and mirrors education. It sets a standard, a relatively low standard .... then when the kid meets that standard he/she is under the impression they are well educated, but in reality they're not. They can't do simple math, write a complete sentence, read or communicate beyond an elementary level and have little or no idea about history or science. It's not good.
    American's can do much better, but until they believe they can they won't.
     
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    Protectionist policies keep a nation down on more than one level.
     
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    If we only educate 10% of the population, what makes you think your kids or grand kids will fit the bill?
     
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    Bullsh!t! This is what happens when you pump more money into funding teachers and administrators salaries and benefits and they fail to actually teach. Compound that with kids and parents that just don't give a damn about becoming a productive member of society and this is what you get!

    This country prospered on schools getting a fraction of the funding they get today. Now all of a sudden unions believe every teacher should get a 6 figure salary plus retirement and benefits. What's worse is in my area of NY they are getting this but the property taxes are so high the kids that grew up here can't afford to live here so they are leaving the state. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

    Not to mention kids today are lazy a sh1t! Xbox and smartphones are a priority over education. And their parents let it happen then blame it on the schools!

    My daughter has her MS and she's 22. Administrators are already looking to get her employed.
    My son is in HS with a 4.0+. Only in 10th grade and the government is looking to recruit him.
    My 12 year old is autistic and can read and write better than most older kids with no disability.

    FACT: It's what effort you put into your education. Not how much $$ you put into it. You lazy libs fail to realize this.
     
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    I never did learn any on the job training as an EMT. Everything I learned, I learned about in EMT school. As far as other employers, today they don’t have the time to teach you OJT. Why should they spend their money to invest in you when there isn’t any garantine that you will stay with them or even understand what you’re be taught. The 2nd part is that today some of the trades are very advanced that only schools can teach it.
     
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    The 20-somethings and early 30-somethings are not stupid, but they are sadly, and BADLY educated. They are products of a public school system that was far more focused on the inculcation of political beliefs and "correct behaviors" than anything that would create a thoughtful, well-rounded individual capable of reflective thought, and, the ability to transform all of this knowledge into something that could enable the person to make a living. Parenthetically, not that I'm so damned smart, but how many of them could even write a sentence like the one that preceded this one...? >> Language is thought! <<

    Perversely, but predictably, what this means in the contemporary work-world is that older workers will be sought-after more than ever -- not just because of what they know, but because all their lives they have applied the ability to learn, to reason, to stay focused on their work, and to make good decisions.

    Oh, and then there's the matter of the older worker's ability to actually arrive at work on time, show up to work dependably day after day, and not have dozens of personal "issues" or personal hobbies getting in the way of focused productivity. Hint: hey, kiddies, want to really destroy your ability to get ahead in your job? Spend great amounts of time at work cruising the 'net, Facebooking, Twittering, and otherwise farting around when you should be working! Take it from a recently-retired department manager in an international Fortune 50 corporation -- they KNOW what you're doing.... Hey, there's plenty of others who will be happy to take your place, and the chances are likely that the ones who replace your silly asses in good jobs will be twice your age! :eekeyes:
     
  22. Arthur Livingston

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    Agreed!

     
  23. Alwayssa

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    Situational analysis is something that cannot be taught in books. And I bet there were some situations in which a more experienced EMT would teach you.

    Second, employers do not like turnover among employees. Although that is a reality, it is necessary for any employer to give an employee the full benefit of the doubt. But it depends on several factors. Is the the knowledge you are acquiring used throughout the industry or is it specific to that company. If it is, then the company has several choices including non compete clause. What makes a good employer from a bad one is how it manages the risk of losing employees.
     
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    The problem is, obviously, the fact that americans dont spend enough money on higher education.

    ...Or could it be that "american" 3rd world youth arent genetically capable of these things?
     
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    Didn't you just have a thread about vile and ugly comments, stay with the topic.

    People need to move and get trained for these jobs and a push to get the unemployment to help and this effort would be beneficial for all. Certainly your personal disgusting comments about others doesn't fix anything.
     

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