Their Qur'an says we deserved to BURN, so do we have a moral duty to burn the Qur'an?

We should certainly have every legal and moral RIGHT to BURN that thing, the same way they approve of "Allah" BURNING us after we die! If they approve of burning us, can't we approve of burning their book that proclaims that? Which is more moral, burning a book, or burning an innocent, say, Buddhist child who didn't buy into the violent crap in the Qur'an, and wouldn't follow Mohammad the pedophile?

What are your thoughts about burning the Qur'an continually, until they remove the parts that say WE'LL burn (even if we're more moral than a typical paradise-bound Muslim, we'll burn just because we don't follow....THE QUR'AN)?

If a book says that you are so morally inferior (just because you won't follow a murdering, raping, torturing pedophile) that you DESERVE to burn, then don't we have a moral DUTY to burn that book until they change that?

 

As an atheist and a secular humanist myself, I would like to say that your debate style gives atheists and secular humanists a bad name.

We aren't at war with religion.

 

If you want to burn the Qur'an for saying that people deserve to burn then you will have to burn the Bible too. Because it says the same thing.

 

Almost makes you wonder if FreedomSeeker isn't really a theist troll just trying to make atheists and secular humanists look bad.

 

Religion is certainly at war with us.

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Yes, the bible is as bad, actually worse in many cases, as the Qur'an. The Bible has, by about an 8:3 margin, more instances of cruelty and violence than even the Qur'an, if you can believe that.

 

The Quran, the Talmud, they are all full of bigoted hatred.

Burn them all I say!

 

Yes, and the bible too of course.

I'm sorry for the following LONG LONG post, but the Bible is so incredibly horrific that I'm not sure this will even all FIT!

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SEVEN HUNDRED INSTANCES OF INTOLERANCE IN THE BIBLE (from http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/int/long.html)


Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.--Mt.27:25

If I had a child, the last book I would ever give to teach morality would be the Bible, especially the Old Testament. -- Bill Maher

Genesis

God gives Abraham and his descendants all of the land of Canaan forever. This promise is still used to justify the unending battles over the land in the Middle East. 13:14-15, 17:8

An uncircumcised boy is to be abandoned by his parents and community. 17:14

God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining "fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone -- he spares the "just and righteous" Lot and his family.19:24

Lot's nameless wife looks back, and God turns her into a pillar of salt. 19:26

Abraham makes his servant swear that he won't let Isaac marry a Canaanite. 24:3

Isaac tells Jacob not to marry a Canaanite. 28:1

Jacob's sons can't stand the idea of their sister marrying someone who is uncircumcised. 34:14

"And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord slew him." What did Er do to elicit God's wrath? The Bible doesn't say. Maybe he picked up some sticks on Saturday. 38:7

After God killed Er, Judah tells Onan to "go in unto they brother's wife." But "Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and ... when he went in unto his brother's wife ... he spilled it on the ground.... And the thing which he did displeased the Lord; wherefore he slew him also." This lovely Bible story is seldom read in Sunday School, but it is the basis of many Christian doctrines, including the condemnation of both masturbation and birth control. 38:8-10

After Judah pays Tamar for her services, he is told that she "played the harlot" and "is with child by whoredom." When Judah hears this, he says, "Bring her forth, and let her be burnt." 38:24

Exodus

God decides to kill Moses because his son had not yet been circumcised. 4:24-26

God will kill the Egyptian children to show that he puts "a difference between the Egyptians and Israel." 11:7

After God has sufficiently hardened the Pharaoh's heart, he kills all the firstborn Egyptian children. When he was finished "there was not a house where there was not one dead." Finally, he runs out of little babies to kill, so he slaughters the firstborn cattle, too. 12:29

No stranger, foreigner, or uncircumcised person can eat the Passover. 12:43, 45, 48

If you do what God says, he won't send his diseases on you (like he did to the Egyptians). But otherwise.... 15:26

When the people complain to Moses, he tells them they aren't complaining about him, but about God, making them apostates and heretics, and therefore deserve severe punishment. Religious leaders have used this tactic ever since. 16:8

Joshua, with God's approval, kills the Amalekites "with the edge of the sword." 17:13

The Lord will have war with Amalek from generation to generation." 17:14

"The Lord has sworn [God swears!] that the Lord will have war with Amalek from generation to generation." So God is still fighting Amalek. I hope Moses can still keep his hand up. 17:14-16

God favors Israelites "above all people." 19:5

The first commandment ("Thou shalt have no other gods before me.") condemns those who worship any other than the biblical god. 20:3

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Thousands of innocent women have suffered excruciating deaths because of this verse. 22:18

"He who sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed." If this commandment is obeyed, then the four billion people who do not believe in the biblical god must be killed. 22:20

Don't even mention the names of the other gods. 23:13

Do not allow others to worship a different god. Conquer them and destroy their religious property. 23:24

God promises to "send his fear before the Israelites" and to kill everyone that they encounter when they enter the promised land. 23:27

Stay away from those who worship a different god. 23:32

Don't let any strangers attend your animal sacrifices. 29:33

Whoever puts holy oil on a stranger shall be "cut off from his people." 30:33

Those who break the Sabbath are to be executed. 31:14

Moses burned the golden calf, ground it into powder, and then forced it down the throats of all the people. 32:20

God orders the sons of Levi (Moses, Aaron, and the other members of their tribe that were "on the Lord's side") to kill "every man his neighbor." "And there fell of the people that day about 3000 men." 32:27-28

"Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book." 32:33

God drives out the pagan tribes and commands the Israelites to destroy their altars and places of worship. 34:11-14

God, "whose name is Jealous", will not tolerate the worship of any other god. 34:14

"Thou shalt make thee no molten gods." 34:17

Whoever works, or even kindles a fire, on the Sabbath "shall be put to death." 35:2-3

Leviticus

Two of the sons of Aaron "offered strange fire before the Lord" and "there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord." 10:1-2

Moses tells Aaron that his sons were burned to death to sanctify and glorify God. 10:3

Moses tells Aaron's cousins to drag the burned bodies out of the camp, and he warns Aaron not to mourn the death of his sons or God will kill him too, along with everyone else. 10:4-6

"When ye be come into the land of Canaan ... I put the plague of leprosy in ... the land of your possession."
God "put the plague of leprosy" on the Canaanites. 14:34

Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22

"Keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations ... that the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you." 18:26-28

"Whosoever shall commit any of these abominations ... shall be cut off from among their people." 18:29

"Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times."
Don't eat anything with blood, or use magic or astrology. 19:26

"Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard."
Don't round the corners of your head or beard. 19:27

"Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you."
Don't get an tatoos. 19:28

Stay away from wizards and people with familiar spirits. 19:31

Stay away from people with familiar spirits and don't "go a whoring" after them either. 20:6

If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13

People with "familiar spirits" (witches, fortune tellers, etc.) are to be stoned to death. 20:27

Handicapped people cannot approach the altar of God. They would "profane" it. 21:16-23

No stranger or slave can "eat of the holy thing." 22:10, 13

If a priest's daughter marries "a stranger" she can't eat any holy things. 22:12

God won't accept animal sacrifices from strangers, since strangers have blemishes and are corrupt. 22:25

Don't do any work on the day of atonement or God will destroy you. 23:29-30

A man curses and blasphemes while disputing with another man. Moses asks God what to do about it. God says that the whole community must stone him to death. "And the children of Israel did as the Lord and Moses commanded." 24:10-23

Anyone who blasphemes or curses shall be stoned to death by the entire community. 24:16

God tells the Israelites to make slaves out of their neighbors and their families. The "heathens" and "strangers" are to be their possessions forever. 25:44-46

If you don't follow all of the laws in the Old Testament, God will shower you with all of the curses in the next 25 verses. 26:14-15

"I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it." 26:16

"I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies." 26:17

"And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins." 26:18

"I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins." 26:21

"I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle." 26:22

"I ... will punish you yet (another) seven times for your sins." 26:24

"I will bring a sword upon you ... I will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy." 26:25

"And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me ... then ... I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins." 26:27-28

"And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat." 26:29

"I will ... cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you." 26:30

"And I will make your cities waste." 26:31

"And I will bring the land into desolation". 26:32

"And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste." 26:33

"And upon them that are left alive of you I will send a faintness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies; and the sound of a shaken leaf shall chase them; and they shall flee, as fleeing from a sword; and they shall fall when none pursueth." 26:36

"And they shall fall one upon another, as it were before a sword, when none pursueth: and ye shall have no power to stand before your enemies." 26:37

"And ye shall perish among the heathen, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up." 26:38

"And they that are left of you shall pine away in their iniquity in your enemies' lands; and also in the iniquities of their fathers shall they pine away with them." 26:39

God defines the value of human life in dollars and cents. Of course, to God, females are worth considerably less than males (50 - 60%) -- but neither are worth much. 27:3-7

Numbers

God shows his hospitality with the admonition: "The stranger that cometh nigh shall be put to death." 1:51, 3:10, 3:38

Two of Aaron's sons are killed by God for "offering strange fire before the Lord." 3:4

God tells the people to expel from camp "every leper, every one that hath an issue, and whoever is defiled by the dead." So by God's instructions, the sick are abandoned and left to suffer and die alone. 5:1-4

"And when the people complained, it displeased the Lord: and the Lord heard it (He had his hearing aid on.) .... and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the LORD burnt among them, and consumed them."
God burned the complainers alive. That'll teach them! 11:1-2

The people begin to whine about not having any meat. So God says he'll give them meat, alright. He'll give them "flesh to eat," not for just a few days, but "for a whole month, until it come out of [their] nostrils, and it be loathsome to [them]." Yuck. 11:4, 19-20

"And while the flesh [of the quails] was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of the Lord was kindled against the people, and the Lord smote the people with a very great plague. "The Bible isn't too clear about what these poor folks did to upset God so much; all it says is that they had "lusted." 11:33

Korah, Dathan, and Abiram, the first freethought/democracy martyrs, refused to follow Moses blindly, saying that everyone is holy and should be free to think for him or herself. God killed them and their families for daring to challenge Moses. 16:1-35

Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment."
God warns everyone to get away; he's going to kill some more people. 16:20-21

"Hereby ye shall know that the LORD hath sent me ... if the LORD make ... the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit..."
Moses tells the people that if the ground opens up and swallows the rebels and their families, then you'll know that God's on his side. 16:28-30

"The earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah ... They ... went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them." 16:31-33

"And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense." 16:35

After God killed Korah, his family, and 250 innocent bystanders, the people complained saying, "ye have killed the people of the Lord." So God, who doesn't take kindly to criticism, sends a plague on the people. And "they that died in the plague were 14,700." 16:41-50

"Get you up from among this congregation, that I may consume them as in a moment."
God threatens (again) to kill everyone (but his special friends, Moses and Aaron). 16:44-45

"For there is wrath gone out from the LORD; the plague is begun ... they that died in the plague were fourteen thousand and seven hundred." 16:46-49

"And the Lord hearkened to the voice of Israel, and delivered up the Canaanites; and they utterly destroyed them and their cities." This verse demonstrates the power of prayer: If you ask God, he will destroy entire cities for you. 21:3

God delivers the Amorites into Moses' hands. (You're in God hands with Moses.) So Moses does the usual thing, killing everyone "until their was none left alive." 21:34-35

After the people "commit whoredom with the daughters of Moab," Moses has them all killed. Then God tells Moses to hang their dead bodies up in front of him; God says that this will satisfy him. 25:1-5

When one of the Israelite men brings home a foreign woman, "Phinehas (Aaron's grandson) sees them and throws a spear "through the man .. and the woman through her belly." This act pleases God so much that "the plague was stayed from the children of Israel." But not before 24,000 had died. 25:6-9

For impaling the interracial couple, God rewards Phinehas and his sons with the everlasting priesthood. 25:10-13

God tells Moses how to care for his neighbors by saying: "Vex the Midianites, and smite them." 25:16-17

The ground swallow Korah and his companions and a fire consumes 250 men. 26:10

"And Nadab and Abihu died when they offered strange fire before the Lord." When you go camping avoid making any unusual fires. 26:61

Under God's direction, Moses' army defeats the Midianites. They kill all the adult males, but take the women and children captive. When Moses learns that they left some live, he angrily says: "Have you saved all the women alive? Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." So they went back and did as Moses (and presumably God) instructed, killing everyone except for the virgins. In this way they got 32,000 virgins -- Wow! (Even God gets some of the booty -- including the virgins.) 31:1-54

God killed all the Egyptian firstborn. 33:4

God tells Moses to exterminate the residents of Canaan and destroy all of their religious symbols and possessions. 33:50-52

But if the Israelites don't kill them all, then God will make them pricks in their eyes and thorns in their sides. And he will do unto the Israelites as he planned to do to the inhabitants of Canaan. 33:55-56

Deuteronomy

"God ... shall fight for you." 1:30

"The Lord destroyed them before them" -- the general treatment of the people who were supposedly displaced by the Israelites. 2:21-22

All nations shall be terrorized by the followers of Yahweh. 2:25

God hardened the heart of the king of Heshbon and so that he could have him and all of his people killed. 2:30

At God's instructions, the Israelites "utterly destroyed the men, women, and the little ones" leaving "none to remain." 2:33-36

God destroyed the followers of Baalpeor. 4:3

If someone makes an image of anything (like a bird or flower) then God will destroy the entire nation. 4:25-26

God brought the Israelites out of Egypt "by war ... and by great terrors." 4:34

The first commandment ("Thou shalt have no other gods before me.") condemns those who worship any other than the biblical god. 5:4

If you worship the wrong god, God will get jealous and kill you. 6:15

God instructs the Israelites to kill, without mercy, all the inhabitants (strangers) of the land that they conquer. 7:2

God forbids marriages with those of other tribes. 7:3

If you do show any mercy to such strangers, "give your daughters to any of them, or "take" any of their daughters, then you'll get God so angry that he'll "destroy thee suddenly." 7:4

Destroy the altars, images, and places of worship of those with different religions. 7:5

God prefers the Israelites to everyone else. It's not that he's prejudiced, he just like them better. 7:6

God will kill those who hate him. 7:10

God's favorite people will never be infertile (neither will their cows!) and will never get sick. (God will send infertility and diseases on the other guys.) 7:14-15

God commands his people to "consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity on them." 7:16

God will send hornets to kill your enemies, "for the Lord thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible." 7:20-23

"The LORD thy God shall deliver them unto thee, and shall destroy them with a mighty destruction, until they be destroyed." 7:23

Burn and "utterly detest" the religious symbols of other faiths. They are an abomination to God. If you bring such an image into your house you will become "a cursed thing like it." 7:25-26

"If thou do at all forget the LORD thy God, and walk after other gods ... ye shall surely perish." 8:19-20

God orders the destruction of all other places of worship. 12:2-3

After God kills those of other faiths, be sure to reject their beliefs and do not learn about them. Otherwise God will have to kill you too. 12:30

Prophets and dreamers are to be executed if they say or dream the wrong things. 13:1-5

If your brother, son, daughter, wife, or friend tries to get you to worship another god, "thou shalt surely kill him, thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death." 13:6-10

If you hear of a city where another god is worshiped, then destroy everyone in the city (even the cattle) and burn it down. (Watch out Salt Lake!) 13:12-16

Kill everyone who has religious beliefs that are different from your own. 17:2-7

Anyone who will not listen to a priest or a judge must be executed. 17:12-13

Wizards, witches, astrologers, and new age folks are all "an abomination unto the Lord." 18:10-12

False prophets are to be (you guessed it) executed. How do you know who is a false prophet? By whether or not their predictions come true. (Watch out Jehovah's Witnesses!) 18:20

Women are not to wear men's clothing and vice versa -- it's an "abomination unto the Lord." 22:5

God won't let bastards attend church. Neither can the sons or daughters of bastards "even to the tenth generation." So if you plan to attend church next Sunday be ready to prove that your genitals are intact and don't forget your birth certificate and genealogical records for at least the last ten generations. Don't laugh. This stuff is important to God. 23:2

No Moabite will ever be allowed into the congregation of the Lord. 23:3, 6

God says not to bring any whore, sodomite, or dog into the house of the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord." Sodomites and dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18

God commands the Israelites to "blot out the rembrance of Amalek from under heaven." A few hundred years later God orders Saul to kill of the Amalekites "both man and woman, infant and suckling." (1 Samuel 15:2-3) 25:19

If you don't obey all of the laws that are given in the Old Testament, God shower you with the curses that are given in the next 52 verses. 28:16-68

"Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body." 28:18

"The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly." 28:20

"The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee." 28:21

"The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies." 28:25

"And thy carcass shall be meat to all the fowls of the air, and no man shall fray them away." 28:26

"The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and the emerods [hemorrhoids], and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst be healed." 28:27

"The Lord will smite thee with madness, and , and astonishment of heart." 28:28

"And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee." 28:29

"Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes ... thine ass shall be violently taken away." 28:31

"Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people." 28:32

You will be enslaved and driven mad in another country. 28:33-34

"The Lord will smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head." 28:35

You will be ruled by other nations, forced to serve other gods, become a laughingstock among your neighbors, have your crops destroyed by locusts, your vines eaten by worms, and have fruitless olive trees. 28:36-40

"Thou shalt begat sons and daughters, but thou shall not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity." 28:41

"All these curses shall come upon thee ... and upon thy seed for ever." 28:48-49

God will enslave you and destroy you with hunger, thirst, hardship, and all kinds of deprivation. 28:48-52

"And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters." 28:53

"So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave: So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat." 28:54-55

"The tender and delicate woman" will be forced to eat her own children "that cometh out from between her feet." 28:56-57

"If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book. Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed ... Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed." 28:58-61

If the Jews don't follow God's laws he'll have most of them killed. 28:62

"The LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought." 28:63

"And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods." 28:64

"The LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind." 28:65

"And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life." 28:66

"In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see." 28:67

God will have you sold to your enemies -- but even they won't buy you. 28:68

If you serve the gods of other nations, "all the curses that are in this book" will fall upon you. 29:18-20

If you follow your own heart, God will curse you with all the curses in Deuteronomy 28:15-68. 29:19-20

"And the Lord will put all these curses upon thine enemies." See Deuteronomy 28:16-64 for some of the curses God has in mind. 30:7

Moses tells the people that God will destroy all the inhabitants of the lands that they pass through. 31:3

Humans were divided by God into groups; then God chose one group (the Israelites) as his favorite and gave all of his "inheritance" to them. 32:8-9

God hates non-believers. 32:19-20

When God gets mad -- watch out! He'll starve you to death, burn you with fire, and send vicious beasts to devour you. He'll "destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs." Not even the helpless and innocent are spared by this psychotic God. 32:21-26

"For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains." 32:22

"I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them." 32:23

"They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust." 32:24

"The sword without, and terror within, shall destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs." 32:25

"I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men." 32:26

 

Incredible! I just tried to copy the 700 instances of intolerance from the Bible in the post above, but because there is SO MUCH INTOLERANCE in the bible, that I had to shorten it by, are you ready for this, OVER 60,000 CHARACTERS! Incredible.

Christians, can you please remove just one, just one, of the 700 instances of intolerance from you book, in an effort to end intolerance? Or are you not very concerned about intolerance?

 

Freedom Seeker, you love to do massive out of context ctrl-C ctrl-V, but how exactly is telling people not to get tattoos an example of bigotry or hatred?

Or saying that you shouldn't let strangers attend your religious ceremonies for that matter?

 

Probably, say, 600 of those 700 are true intolerance, and should be purged, if Christians were as moral as modern Secular Humanist teachings, the other 100 or so are, yes, less intolerant, but somewhat crazy none the less. So if you can find ONE instance of intolerance in the bible, why not advocate that it be removed, if one has high moral standards? And of course why accept 600 or so? There is clearly a better way.

 

The Constitution mentions slavery and says that slaves are 3/5s a person. Should we burn all copies of the Constitution and demand the line be purged?

Historical record should not be destroyed. We should endeavor to learn from it instead.

 

Correct, actually. Create a new version of the Bible that is used on a daily basis, not destroy all old copies, etc. no. No need to, every day, have our kids see a passage that says to KILL THEM if "god" happened to make them gay, for example. Just common sense. But religions, unlike modern Secular Humanism, don't use much common sense. I was ashamed to be a Christian.

The "old" copy of the bible, the immoral version, would of course be kept in libraries etc. as an important historical document, for sure, but not as a moral guide for day to day life, as slavery, saying women are worth 1/2 a man, etc. are too immoral, obviously. If Christianity can't improve its texts, it will start to lose members, as we are clearly seeing.

 

Much of old prophecy shares the 'burning'.

Nukes fit that perfectly.

Do nukes exist?

If they were used on a global scale, could it do what many claim happened per the 'prophets'? For example, if they saw something of our future, about 'stars falling' (nukes at nite coming thru atmosphere), and they 'rain fire from the sky' (nukes detonate 500-1000 ft about the surface), would they 'melt flesh from bone'? Would the people of them periods be able to write what they saw in the language of today?

For example; if I had a bic lighter and flicking it on and off, on the day that jesus was carrying a cross thru the streets, who would they have called a 'god'?

So is it possible for a life of then, to see thru the eyes of a life, of their lineage, of today? That's the gazillion dollar question!

the people that burn, are the ones in the cities, that have no idea it is coming.

 

Yes, we should teach or children that the Bible was wrong in many many places, and right in certain places as well.

 

Dont feed the troll , om nom nomm .

 

sam harris pointed out that if a mushroom cloud arose over NY City, that many Christians would REJOICE, because they would feel that that meant the Biblical end of days was upon us, and that would signal Jesus wonderful return. That's sick! Also, because they believe this earth is very very temporary (their boy will return in their lifetime!) so they don't care about the environment of our planet as much as modern Secular Humanists do. So indirectly, MSH is better for the planet than Christianity is, clearly.

 

Are you ok with me and Taikoo et al burning, because we choose a different super-hero than Mohammad chose, even if say Taikoo is just say equally as moral as you are? Is that fair in your opinion?

 

no shee't!

Im already here and dont want that to happen.

since 'we all' are the children of the procreated lives of back then, then 'their lifetime' is still on.

And a 'boy' is the clown many expect to have a magic wand.

oh really?

MSH?

i like 'we the people' (mankind). I already know that each are capable.

If you and I are, then why not 'them' (da utter guys/gals)?

 

Except the evidence shows both Christianity and Islam expanding rapidly, so there is really nothing clear about that at all.