Saudi-Syrian war. Who is Who: Facts, Maps, Numbers."FSA?", Kurds, al Qaida , Alawits

Saudi-Syrian war. Who is Who: Facts, Maps, Numbers."FSA?", Kurds, al Qaida , Alawits. etc.

Saudi-Syrian war, Who is Who:Facts, Maps, Numbers."FSA?", Kurds, al Gaida,Alawits

here some questions:
1) does FSA exist as a military force (names of field commanders, numbers, locations, development , etc)
2) Kurds , what they control , situation today and 1 year ago , (names of field commanders, numbers, locations, development , etc)
3) Alawits militia (names of field commanders, numbers, locations, development , etc)
4) al Qaida and other salafi/wahhabists (names of field commanders, numbers, locations, development, etc)
5) the foreign fighters (names of field commanders, numbers, locations,development , etc)


my 1 question about the Kurds:

here - the 2 maps, which of them is more accurate?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Syrian_civil_war_detailed_map

Here is a better map with live updates on situation in Syria.

FSA does not exist as single army but instead as a combination of different groups who have little to no communication with groups outside their area.

It is hard to list all brigades, but here are some

Northern Storm Brigade
Liwa al Islam
Tawheed Brigade

2. Map I gave link to shows what Kurds control. It's mostly accurate.

3. I am not familiar with any strictly Alawite groups. There is the National Defense Force which assists Syrian Army in operations. There are all sects in NDF, including Alawites, Sunnis, Christians, Druze and Kurds. They operate only in local areas in which they live. (Damscus, Homs, Aleppo, Deraa, Hassaka, Hama regions).

4. I do not know any names of leaders of many Islamist brigades. That is something the Syrian Army and intelligence would know.

but here are some.

Jabhat Al-Nusra --- Abu Mohammad al-Golan
Islamic State of Iraq and Levant ---- Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
Jaish al-Muhajireen wal-Ansar ---- Abu Omar al Chechen

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2013/02/chechen_commander_le.php

 

kurds vs. salafi/wahhabists, who dominates ? i m talking about Syrian Kurdistan of cos. how it has changed during last year?

 

Kurds been kicking ISIS and Al-Nusra pretty hard. They gaining ground and taking over villages everyday.

 

how its possible? kurds have no more then 5 000 bayonets as far as i know. ISIS and Al-Nusra have unlimited recurses(human, money)

 

Kurds have plenty of weapons..... Syrian Army left them the warehouses when they made a withdrawal to send forces to Aleppo and Damascus.

 

to answer the question about the maps - it depends on who you ask. If you asked the Turks, they'd probably say the first is more accurate, but the maps aren't exactly answering the same question. the first is more of a military strength map, and the second relates to ethnic association in the region. I think, for the purposes of answering your questions, the first map is the one you want to work with.

 

And now they know how is it to threat other peoples existence,
A belief to wipe out a disbelief is way too absurd and futile.

 

the PKK(political) / HPG(military wing) has been fighting for sovereignty as a unified force since 1984. they've got a lot more experience than most of the other groups on the battlefield not aligned with a specific state.

 

thats right but we talk about Turkish Kurds , not about the Syrian K.

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maybe, but i have never seen the heavy weapons in their hands ....

 

i think you are right , what do you think about this one?

 

here is one more good map

 

Good, because Turkey shipped in the terrorists and mercenaries to fight the Kurds and take over the oil fields. Turkey has a big problem. The Kurds in Turkey live mostly along the border areas and in the summer of 2012, two towns raised the Kurdish flag. The Turkish army responded by cordoning off the area, that way the world wouldn't know what was going on. One member of the U.N. said they had used gas to quell the uprising. Isn't it lovely the way our media avoids anything that goes against our foreign policy?

As for who is arming them, I came across an article once in a foreign site that mentioned they are being supported by the allies. The arms could be going via Israel, since they have always been on friendly terms with the Kurds. Also the Christians are fighting with them, and this might be the reasons they are being massacred.

 

What oil fields are you talking about? Syrian oil production is quite small.

 

big enough to provide salafi/wahhabists with sarin

[video=youtube;15uoDnWoVYY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15uoDnWoVYY[/video]

 

You are uninformed .. its actually miniscule.

 

I would posit that the HPG and PKK don't recognize the difference between Syrian Kurds and Turkish Kurds... or Iraqi Kurds, etc. They're all just Kurds to one another.

I'm guessing they probably all support each other where ever they're needed and have the means to cross borders that they don't recognize in order to do so.

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Your first new map doesn't have a key to what the shaded regions represent, so I'm only guessing, but I'd say, from what I've been reading, the first map is either very recent or was commissioned by someone with a vested interest in giving the rebels the appearance of being a lot in control than they are, as up until the last week or so, the Syrian government had gained back a lot of ground. It's all just conjecture since I haven't paid microscopic attention to the day-to-day minute developments of the war, and, as said previously, winners, losers, and regional control are always interpreted differently depending on who you're asking on the ground, what interests and prejudices they have relating to the issue, and whether they're optimistic or pessimistic.

 

That is the land Turkey wants, since they have no oil. Anyway I think the original intent of the Kurds and the allies was to have them takeover lands that would facilitate them in getting their oil in Northern Iraq to the Mediterranean. Seems logical huh, especially if it's true that Assad wouldn't allow any oil to go through Syria in order to keep Russia from forming a monopoly.

Amazing how we can destroy nations and tolerant regimes without any qualms simply for our own competitive reasons. At least Pres. Bush truly believed the Iraqi people would be better off, something that would have happened if the insurgents hadn't started blowing up the pipelines whenever the soldiers repaired them...not to mention the electric and water supplies as well. In Obama's case though, he knew the Syrian people would gain nothing, yet we had to interfere and say we wanted a democratic regime even though we know what happened to Libya.

As for Russia, they felt they were deceived when they voted for Nato's interference in Libya. Nato said they would use force only to keep Ghadafy from bombing the rebel cities, and instead they began to bomb the cities themselves. Nato also said it wouldn't touch Ghadafy, yet he was murdered without a trial by the 'rebels'.

It seems that Ghadafy had previous energy arrangements with Russia, and Russia wanted those arrangements to remain intact. They were fooled then, and they refuse to be fooled again.

 

really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Syria#Oil

 

I think one of the reasons the Geneva conference between the U.S. and Russia has been delayed, is because it will establish which parts of Syria will go to who. Whichever group is on the losing end wants to delay the conference until it gets into a more powerful position. This might be why Obama insisted Assad was the one who used chemical weapons, and why he wanted the playing field to be evened out.

As for any map presented by Turkey, forget it. Turkey has a habit of changing demographics by ethnically cleansing areas.

 

i wish that it was like you wrote..but its not true...Turkish PKK has around 5 000 bayonets and its main goal "autonomous Kurdistan and cultural and political rights for the Kurds in Turkey" and Turkish Kurds provide PKK with 95% of recurses. my guess its no more then 20% PKK fights

how many bayonets has PYD only God knows, but its not more than 5 000 ( less professional then PKK).

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/turkey...hadist-brigade-to-fight-against-syria/5349815

 

just went to wikipedia and they seem to have different numbers than you. I would guess they've got a lot more now than the table from 2007 which says they've got 4,500 AK-47's, almost 6000 rifles as well as over 1,500 rocket launchers. If it is as SyrianGirl says and the rebels left them weapons warehouses during a withdrawl, they're probably armed to the teeth.

In my research, I do regularly see the number of HPG at around 5,000, but I've got to question that when I remember this paragraph from a Washington Institute report to the US gvt about dealing with the Kurds in a "possible" Syria situation back in April of 2012:

I've got to think that a people as resilient, rebellious and experienced as the Kurds would have more of those 300,000 rise to the occasion in a time of war, particularly if they had an increase in the numbers and sophistication of their weapons. I can't prove any of this, it's just a theory, but I'd say something similar about the Basque's ETA if a civil war erupted in Spain.

 

They have DSHK , tanks and BMPs. All were given by Syrian Army or captured from ISIS / Al NUsra