http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/252220 The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan is drafting a complaint to file with the United Nations Education, Culture and Science Organization stating they are offended by Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount, according to an article in Haaretz. Jordan has formulated the petition along with other Arab states that condemns Israel for allowing Jewish prayer at the holy site as well as reinforcing and refurbishing the wooden bridge that leads from the Western Wall to the Temple Mount. They are also demanding that Israel coordinate all archeological excavations in Jerusalem Old City with the Jordanian government. Is it a part of the Israelis Peace Agreement http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Peace Process/Guide to the Peace Process/Israel-Jordan Negotiations The first public meeting between King Hussein and Prime Minister Rabin took place in Washington, on July 25, 1994. Out of this meeting emerged The Washington Declaration, signed by Prime Minister Rabin and King Hussein, with President Clinton serving as a witness. The major achievements of the Washington Declaration were a series of agreements and concrete steps symbolizing the new era: =The state of belligerency between Jordan and Israel was terminated. =Both states agreed to seek a just, lasting and comprehensive peace based on UN Resolutions 242 and 338. =Israel will respect the special role of the Hashemite Kingdom over Muslim holy shrines in Jerusalem. can anyone find that petition? im in. This is the kind of news few will read unless assisted im in
The Hashemite Royal Family’s leadership in conserving the holy places of Islam is deeply rooted in its origins and its role in Arab and Islamic history. The Hashemites ruled over parts of the Hijaz region of Arabia from 967 to 1925 AD. King Abdullah II ibn Al Hussein’s branch of the Hashemite Family ruled the holy city of Mecca from 1201 until 1925 AD. Today, King Abdullah II heads a family which represents over a thousand years of rule in the region, with a long history as guardians of the Islamic faith. In the centre of the Old City of Jerusalem sits a sprawling compound known as Al Haram Al Sharif (The Noble Sanctuary). The compound contains two mosques, many shrines and public fountains, as well as the tombs of Muslim saints, is both holy and dear to Muslims worldwide. Al Haram Al Sharif is described as the first qibla (direction to which Muslims turn in prayer) and is Islam’s third holiest shrine, after Mecca and Medina. At the centre of the area lies the golden Dome of the Rock which was completed in 691 AD by Caliph Abdul Malik Bin Marwan. The Dome of the Rock was built to commemorate the famous night journey (Isra Waal Miraj) of the Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) in the year 620 AD, when he was transported from Mecca to Jerusalem in a mystical flight. From the rock around which the shrine was later built, he ascended to heaven. Muslims celebrate this event on the 27th day of the hijiri month of Rajab every year. http://kingabdullah.jo/index.php/en_US/pages/view/id/220.html
try a google "hashemite complaint" which was news a few days back, but now the political forum thread is top runner. How many know that jerusalem and especially the Dome of the rock complex had been under jordan/hashemite guardianship for over 1000 yrs, prior to the pigs of zionism trying to take over the so called 'holy land'
I borrowed this clip from another thread aint it weird that so many have no idea what the divide in palestine is all about?
I keep telling people that all the gripes and sufferings of the Palestinians is simply so they can take back their Islamic Holyland. ..which is Jerusalem. Since the city is not in Muslims hands means, (according to them), that the Jews have 'triumphed' over Islam and therefore Muslims must do everything possible to take away that humiliation. I wonder how many other 'humiliations' the Islamists will want to remove...such as Spain, Portugal, Serbia, Greece, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Roumania, etc., etc, since every land Muslims have lived on is considered Islamic 'holyland'?
Yet not one of those place, including jerusalem, is mentionned in the koran... But jerusalem is mentionned many times in the old and new testament. Islam is about bloody conquest and destruction of any non muslim culture and identity. It is a plague designed to destroy civilisation and to reduce humanity to abdject oppression.
I care about as much about Muslims rights and privileges in the middle east as Muslims care about Jewish rights and privileges in the middle east. You know... pigs and all.
Islam is an heretic Abrahamic religion that has no right or legitimate claim over Jerusalem or the Temple of Solomon.
Let the anti-Christ Israelis pray to their egos all they want. Who cares? They pray and wail at a wall from the Roman Fortress and imagine it was part of Herod's Temple. What do they need a temple for any way? They just need to bring in American girls and teach them to be good temples.
how is it heretic? To a muslim, islam is not heretic. To a christian, everything else is heretic but themselves. and ps..... the Dome of the rock, has been on tel megiddo (the hill/the mount) longer than any religious building, on that site............... That means, the islamic religious belief system has more claim, than all the religious systems on the earth, to 'tel megiddo' (the hill). If you want to fight over the hill, then lets play armegeddon!
I see no reason why Jews who wish to pray peacefully and modestly, can't pray on some part of the Temple Mount. It is a holy site for Jews. Yes for now there should be a specific location where they can pray, seperate from Muslims, but they should have their own space.
Down With All Monarchy and Emirs and Tribal War lords of a feudal past !IS Good! Not ,just the Jewish Brand of Fascist thinking but ALL God Nutters are Guilty on that one! As are all that Support any form of monarchist rule! Long live the Republic!
Now ,to correct you ,its a "Holy Site " for Jewish men with funny Hats ,No more no less. Jewish Women Not allowed !Nor Muslim for that matter!!!!YEP! MEN WITH funny hats Club! The Holy Mount of Dung! Dung heap of Inequality ,Should be Nationalised to put the Men with funny Hats God nutter club ,DOWN!
If you took a second to Look at the Forest except the trees,Where ever their is a dispute between Religious Nuts ,in Politics modern ,Dead babies inevitably follow. I am 55 thanks for asking ! Been political for near 40years. And I tell you ,Child, If men with big Hats were Jailed and got out of the Politics ,as NOT ALLOWED to be elected ,banned ,then the World would be better and more peaceful. Ban funny hat wearing Religious Males from holding ANY political positions ,!!!
Check the history and how Islam came about just to summarize, Mohammed was supposed to consult with the Christians and Jews as instructed by Allah in order to make God's religion or the Abrahamic faith known to all and to help preserve the integrity of the faith but instead of following Allah's instruction Mohammed did the opposite and created his own religion by usurping and distorting everything about the Abrahamic faith but worse was he wage a war of ethnic cleansing in an attempt to wiped out Christianity and Judasim. Heretic the definition: someone who believes or teaches something that goes against accepted or official beliefs. Mohammed went against the official teachings of Christianity and Judaism but worse was he did not obey Allah to work with Christians and Jews.
Not a religious scholar, but when you compare the beginnings of the three major religions it is fairly obvious which was more violent.
all of that is a lie. basic wiki The Constitution of Medina (Arabic: دستور المدينة‎, Ṣaḥīfat al-Madīnah), also known as the Charter of Medina, was drafted by the Islamic prophet Muhammad. It constituted a formal agreement between Muhammad and all of the significant tribes and families of Yathrib (later known as Medina), including Muslims, Jews, Christians[1] and pagans.[2][3] This constitution formed the basis of the first Islamic state. The document was created to bring to an end the bitter inter-tribal fighting between the clans of the Aws (Aus) and Khazraj within Medina. To this effect it instituted a number of rights and responsibilities for the Muslim, Jewish, Christian and pagan communities of Medina bringing them within the fold of one community—the Ummah.[4] The precise dating of the Constitution of Medina is uncertain, but generally scholars agree it was written shortly after the Hijra (622).[5] It effectively established the first Islamic state. The Constitution established: the security of the community, religious freedoms, the role of Medina as a haram or sacred place (barring all violence and weapons), the security of women, stable tribal relations within Medina, a tax system for supporting the community in time of conflict, parameters for exogenous political alliances, a system for granting protection of individuals, a judicial system for resolving disputes, and also regulated the paying of blood money (the payment between families or tribes for the slaying of an individual in lieu of lex talionis In Muhammad's last years in Mecca, a delegation from Medina, consisting of the representatives of the twelve important clans of Medina, invited him as a neutral outsider to Medina to serve as the chief arbitrator for the entire community.[6][7] There was fighting in Medina mainly involving its pagan and Jewish inhabitants for around a hundred years before 620. The recurring slaughters and disagreements over the resulting claims, especially after the battle of Bu'ath in which all the clans were involved, made it obvious to them that the tribal conceptions of blood-feud and an eye for an eye were no longer workable unless there was one man with authority to adjudicate in disputed cases.[6] The delegation from Medina pledged themselves and their fellow-citizens to accept Muhammad into their community and physically protect him as one of themselves.[8] After emigration to Medina, Muhammad drafted the Constitution of Medina, "establishing a kind of alliance or federation" among the eight Medinan tribes and Muslim emigrants from Mecca, which specified the rights and duties of all citizens and the relationship of the different communities in Medina (including that of the Muslim community to other communities, specifically the Jews and other "Peoples of the Book") The belief that islam as muhammad would approve is to convert everyone to muslim is the stupidest rant that any human being can suggest. The Ummah is bonafide proof that what muhammad was trying to do, is not even remotely what morons suggest of islam. Be fair. People would not believe a religion that has so much ritual homage, by force or fear. They either want to submit, or the system would already be extinct. The greatest fear imposing belief system that I know of, is christianity. I bet to poll the people of america i will bet 9 out of 10 would agree. Guilt, force and fear are the primary reasons that 'atheist' exist.
tell king saud and queen elizabeth that the primary horns; the three religions of abraham are all tied to the same tree what republic? long live mankind I live to give, enable and support life to continue; the children/our future I just watched bill clinton point out that hillary has more experience that he does. He then stated that chelsea is smarter than the both of them. That is a wise man. Because if the next generation is not better, smarter and far more capable than 'we' are, then we f'cked up! let the monarche be just a butterfly
Aaaaaand then 9.1] (This is a declaration of) immunity by Allah and His Apostle towards those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement. [9.2] So go about in the land for four months and know that you cannot weaken Allah and that Allah will bring disgrace to the unbelievers. [9.3] And an announcement from Allah and His Apostle to the people on the day of the greater pilgrimage that Allah and His Apostle are free from liability to the idolaters; therefore if you repent, it will be better for you, and if you turn back, then know that you will not weaken Allah; and announce painful punishment to those who disbelieve. [9.4] Except those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement, then they have not failed you in anything and have not backed up any one against you, so fulfill their agreement to the end of their term; surely Allah loves those who are careful (of their duty). [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. ...... [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
Sorry actual historical facts and reality does not support your claims this is the reason why Islam or Muslims will always struggle because they are out of touch with reality.
This guy makes the only valid point I've read here. If all of you religious nut jobs realized that we are all human regardless of race or religion, then maybe, just maybe there would not be so much hate. Sure people will still find things to fight about but most, if not all of the BS that you argue about here is due to your religious affiliation. It's sad and juvenile but as each side likes to reaffirm, it goes back centuries and I'd be a fool to think it will ever end. Religion is what keeps you all looking at the past. The injustices of history should only be used as example of what not to do in the future. In the Middle East there is no government that is not solely based on religious ideology and therefore this will be the reason you fight until the end. And yes I know, I'm going to hell, or whatever your book calls it.
