57% of high school seniors not ready for college according to SAT scores

Anyone remember this a year ago?

Chicago teachers strike: The issues

$76K a year for working 9 months a year, time off on the holidays with Cadillac health plans and Gold Parachute Pensions while 57% of the graduates aren't ready for college, then they go on strike? What's wrong with that picture? This is proof you can't fix major problems by throwing more money at it without holding the ones receiving the cash accountable for better performance. They need to make the teachers pay directly proportional to their performance in the class room. A standardized test administered by an outside the school district company should determine whether an individual teacher gets a raise or a cut. 4 years in a row of under-performance should result in termination. 57% of the graduates not ready for college is shocking under-performance and totally unacceptable.

 

Check for the union label. Democrats OWN this failure.

 

Except that, on average, the worst schools in America are down south in bright red states.

 

Not to defend teachers , especially in regards to them ALWAYS wanting raises, and yes let me tell you as a school board member, they ALWAYS want raises.

But, the fault lies with parents, not teachers. We have highly gifted, highly motivated, and highly skilled teachers at our school. We also have some that just do what they have to to get by. Here's the thing, there is no noticeable difference in how well the students they teach are doing. If a child is highly motivated by their parents, they will do well whether the teacher is good or just average, with a slight bump with the better teachers of course, but if a student's parents don't push them, then even the best teachers can't get through to them.

Education starts at home, not at school. Can a good teacher help a student excel? You bet. Can a mediocre teacher cause a kid to fail? No.

Our school is fairly successful overall, bc we have a school board committed to making it so, and this year we instituted a new policy. Any student who doesn't maintain a 2.0 GPA across the board will be required to attend an after school tutoring session WITH their parents the next quarter, One night a week, 3 hours long. We just ended our first quarter , and just compiled all the grades. We had a 40% decrease in the number of students who weren't maintaining a 2.0 GPA from the last quarter of last school year.

Seems like 40% of parents suddenly decided to get involved when they had something at risk.

Oh, the penalty for not maintaining a 2.0 and refusing to attend after school tutoring. Recommendation for repeating quarter. Our school will no longer pass kids who don't qualify. If we need to hold them back a grade we will. And I can guarantee you that when that policy was announced we had ten times as many parents at our school board meeting as usual.

 

I hadn't heard that before please link so I can read about it.

 

The worst schools on average are indeed in the south, but what he ISN'T saying is that are in urban cities, populated by blacks, who we are constantly reminded vote Democrat.

Has nothing to do with political party anyway. Has to do with PARENTING, and let me tell you there are (*)(*)(*)(*)ty parents who are liberal and there are (*)(*)(*)(*)ty parents who are conservative, and there are also good parents from both groups.

For "some reason" urban school in the south do have more (*)(*)(*)(*)ty parents than good.

 

Sure. These are math and science scores, but that's applicable because you are talking about SAT scores in the OP. And the figures are STATEWIDE, so you can remove the whole black people are stupid thing. If you notice, by and large, the blue states do better. The red ones, not so much. And since these are simply facts there is nothing political to say. Red states just have poorer educational systems. Well, on average anyway. There are many great schools in red states and vice versa.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/11/state-education-rankings-_n_894528.html

 

Only 26% of high school graduates hit college readiness targets in English, reading, math, and science.

This means that colleges must again adjust and lower their standards and requirements in English, reading, math and science. The nation's universities must focus more on culinary arts and social sciences.

 

I agree whole heartedly that education begins at home. My problem is public schools have become the go-to on education while parents have been allowed to just drop off and pick up. The country pumps endless BILLIONS year after year into public education, yet the results have been dismal because parents have forfeited their responsibility to educate to the schools. In the mean time, the kids loose while the adults point fingers.

 

Didn't know Detroit and Chicago schools were doing so well in preparing students for college...who knew???...

 

You narrowed the scope to math and science only, sorry.........................NO SOUP FOR YOU!

Here are the 10 worst performing schools over all.

 

The problem is not just parents either, it is also the school teaching system. We've dumbed down education to the point of being ridiculous. Now they're starting Common Core, which dumbs it down even more. Go back in time to when this country was founded and look at an 8th grade test from then. Probably most college students couldn't pass it today.

http://www.ksde.org/Portals/0/Research Reports/1895 Eighth Grade Final Exam.pdf

 

States with the highest concentration of black people in the country. Imagine that.

 

That chart is meaningless in determining the effectiveness of a state's schools.

You're comparing some states in which only some kids take the SAT to other states where MANY kids take the SAT and then trying to compare their scores.

If I took the top 10 kids from a school and then 10 random kids from another school and gave them all the SAT I would of course expect that the school that sent the top 10 kids to do better on the SAT.

Give this study a look.

http://www.usnews.com/education/hig...ompare-in-the-2013-best-high-schools-rankings

 

Our public schools as a nation perform well enough look at any global standard our student rate in the top 25% of nations. We have an effective 99% literacy rate maybe not a grade level of High School but can read a newspaper and function and perform math well enough to balance a checkbook and do basic things. Most know enough science to get by. Know enough history to get by. And many are computer literate to look things up. And I would argue more than enough go above this to be employable in most sorts of jobs available. I think the issue is to many students are going to college its odd all the military branches consider a High School Diploma to be the silver standard to get into a service and trainable, and a college degree in any field the gold standard if its enough for the military then it should be good enough for employers.

If its a skill issue then offer those skills in High School or in a High School/Community College Certification Course option, so the High School graduate is entry career ready in a variety of fields its again odd the military will take Little Johnny with his High School Diploma and he can with a training course do technically demanding work from infantry combat to operating tanks. All without college.

 

Ah, maybe that's why even after the little darlings graduate from college they still can't write, don't read, can't do 4th-grade arithmetic in their heads, and know surprisingly little about anything -- except for those things that involve a "point" and a "click" with a computer mouse. The other hiring managers and myself in the Fortune 50 corporation I recently retired from would get together after batteries of interviews with prospective new-hires and HOWL with laughter! The really sad thing is that these people weren't stupid! No... they were just hopelessly IGNORANT, after all that "education"....

 

At 57% aren't ready for college at graduation, their salaries should be reduced by 5% per year till those numbers come up.

 

I think our problem is one of no common sense and no logical thinking. Pretty easy to remember facts to take a test. It's another thing entirely to be able to think.

I like the idea of a mentor/apprentice type set up. Worked well for thousands of years, and it does seem like many industries are getting away from the "you must have a college degree" mentality.

 

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Then how are the states red? Quite a pickle, no?

 

That's how they always do it. But what difference does it make? The red state schools, on average, are worse. It's not my fault. I'm just the messenger.

 

Hey, 82% of NYC's high school grads can't read or write upon graduation. What else is new?

S'funny, but NYC voted 81% for Barack Obama last time out. Think there might be a correlation?
But all that's good news for the Democrats who depend largely on uninformed voters to stay in office, and handing out lots o "Free Stuff" as well. Florida has Congressman Alan Grayson (D-FL) as a result. What's next Congresswoman Rachel Jeantell? Hey! They already have Congresswoman Fredericka Wilson (D-"Trayvon! Trayvon!")

 

Not really. Just because those states have 3x more blacks than the US average doesn't mean they are the majority.

 

"It's the parents fault!"
Dung!
Unless one meant the government when one says parent


...parenting has been intruded upon by the government that always knows best......and the OP shows the results.

 

I find that very difficult to believe, because i know for a fact that thats not true.

So why would you lie?

 

Maybe it's a blessing in disguise -- or maybe red and southern states have an ulterior motive and know what they're doing.

Keep them dumb, ignorant and stupid -- it'll mean less competition in a high-salaried job market for white kids.