Discussion for people affected by abortions

Not much, which is why I personally feel rape should have much harsher punishments especially considering psychological damage from rape is long term and extremely difficult to recover from. It's not just sexual assault, in my opinion, it is also psychological torture.

 

I agree with harsher penalties for rape and for many of those same reasons...

But you seem to have missed the point of my question while giving it some merit at the same time.

The fact that some percentage of 'rapists' may not be affected or deterred by laws against rape would be a poor argument for doing away with laws against rape.

If anything, it would be a good argument for even harsher penalties.

Correct?

 

Who is arguing that we do away with rape laws?

Definitely.

 

Abortion can be as well. With abortion....someone dies...and I know that I am the one who killed my child.

Do you know what that feels like Pasithea? Ever felt something someone told you..it was impossible to feel?

 

Do you know any people that have had abortions? If so, what did they tell you about how their abortion made them feel? Did they feel depressed or regretful about it?

 

Not people? LMAO

What is killed in the womb Cady? A pencil? A rock?

What is the abortionists goal?

Why do you think some people want abortion to be illegal after 24 weeks?

If its not a person....why restrict women?

Oh I can't wait to hear your answer.

 

I am sorry you feel that way. You really shouldn't because you did nothing wrong.

 

To get back to the topic...which went off topic....13 pages ago....

Discussion for people affected by abortion.........

Who here has been affected?

 

That is your morality not mine. I know what I did was wrong....I killed my baby...I took a hit out on it. I killed, terminated, ended ...it's life. And IMO which I should be allowed to state...I murdered by baby. You can think me wrong, you can disagree which is perfectly ok, that is YOUR opinion...but you are not me. I am me and this is what I believe.

And I am not alone...not at all. There are millions like me who feel the same way.

 

And I am just telling you, from my perspective and the perspective of millions of people, men and women alike, you did nothing wrong.

You were within the law and within your rights in choosing abortion. Obviously we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

 

A lot of things are done within the law that are wrong. Abortion was once illegal and considered immoral. Were the people who believed this prior to 73 wrong? Would you have defended them at the time for believing this way? No. But I don't think right and wrong changes. I think rape is always wrong...murder is always wrong...childabuse. So even though the law changed..my position on it did not.

I don't care about the perspective of the millions who think abortion should be legal that women should be allowed to kill. I care about mine...and sharing mine. I am a Christian which makes a huge difference. I know what I did...and it was immoral IMO.

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No you didn't..but others say I do this and I don't. I have never treated anyone with disrespect that has had an abortion..no matter what their position is.

To state my feelings on heaven hell...and who goes there according to the Word. I believe there is only one sin that keeps one from heaven...and its not abortion.

 

I had a friend who had an abortion. I helped her get through it. She struggled due to her religious family, whom she feared retribution from if they ever found out. Anyway they eventually did and essentially banished her from their domain, though her siblings kept in touch. Luckily she had a job by this time and quite independent. 3 years later she got married and had a lovely daughter. She never regretted her choice, and nor should she. Having that abortion helped her make a great life for herself and allowed her to have a child when she was ready. She never forgave her parents, and by all accounts they regret their idiotic prejudice, as they kids slowly lost respect for them. For me her story is often a good representation of not only the empowerment of woman that abortion provides, but the characters of her story sound like harbingers of the demise of the wider lifer movements and its deluded hindrance to the progress of freedom and human betterment.

 

Utter nonsense. You try, amazingly but not surprisingly, to send people on guilt trips all the time and use your own hypocritical life experience as a whip to lash self doubt onto people in an attempt to avoid all form of intellectual discussion and concentrate on emotional attacks and religious propaganda. You are one of the very strong reasons why the lifer movement will fail, if it hasnt already.

 

Isn't it odd that is such cases the love and forgiving aspect of religion is cast aside in favor of control and condemnation? Not to mention the "what will people say?" reasoning, or "you brought shame on us" because in such cases others and their opinions and themselves (the parents) are more important than their child.

 

Actually rape has been condoned quite often historically - and under Christian society no less. As for abortion, that has been very often accepted throughout history - especially Christian history.

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So she suffered......and her family did not even know. Wow. She suffered. There would be no way of them finding out if she didn't tell them. But she suffered....yes...I would imagine she would have.
If they found out...she told them....
We suffer consequences sometimes for our actions. She wanted to kill the life inside her. Her family has a right to react. And killing helped her start a new life....odd isn't it. Kill something innocent, helpless....to begin something new. Kill a living human life. Her parents obviously got it.

This decision was all about her...her wants, her needs...it was her choice. The decision to kill cost her...her parents. Boy thats starting life fresh and wonderful isn't it? And while she probably did not care as you said...her parents probably mourned the only grandchild they might have ever had.

If the kids lost respect...they don't know right.

Your story is about killing and selfishness and narcissism....self love over what is right. Your story is tragic...not for her...not for her parents even...but for that life she killed...that today could have been something, that we will never know. That is not something to be celebrated. And I don't care what you say...there was regret on her side...even if she won't admit it. Her actions killed a person and broke up a family...and she did it all by her choice.

 

And you would know about religion? The story Mega told was about killing a living being in the womb. He notes that she never forgave her parents. In the Word it says forgiving.....so this woman whoever she is...was an unforgiving person...as you say I am. Which is an attack on me and not allowed. The control was in the womans hands and she took control. She is the one that hired someone to kill the life inside her. She controlled the destiny of another human being. You can spin this all you want...but she is the one who held the cards..paid the money....and ended another's life. This is power.

There is shame in abortion...even if you can't see it or are willing to recognize it. And today it is legal...but still a taboo subject for women to talk about especially if they have had one. And that is funny because today our society embraced everything pornographic, demonic. You turn on television and you can see people hacked up, raped...the most heinous of crimes are depicted. Gays are out of the closet....Hollywood is pro-abortion....you people say society wants abortion to be legal so woman can kill..... and yet women don't admit their abortions.

 

Yes, I would.

It was about a woman having an abortion and her parents being closed minded, who felt that self righteousness is more important than love and forgiveness, in other words zealots.

That is her issue to deal with and not relevant to abortion.

That is why her zealot parents did not want to have anything to do with her?

I never said that, so why make it up?

BS.

Better in her hands than in the hands of religious zealots like her parents.

Emotional tripe.

A fetus.

The only one spinning here is you.

Not for rational and intelligent people.

Oh yea, I forget they are not God's creatures also...

It is not 'we people' it is "THE PEOPLE" and that is a big difference, one that you prefer to ignore.

Of course they admit, in circles where intelligent reasoning is the preferred method of debate not condemnation like you prefer.

 

Thanks for sharing. Personally, I disagree about the abortion making a great life and it empowering women and that she should not regret the abortion. Obviously, something negative in her life occured from the abortion, at least indirectly, as she does not have a relationship with her parents. This family is torn apart by the abortion, until forgiveness can be given on both sides. However, I am happy she has a good life now, is married and has a daughter. It is a shame her parents treated her this way. Instead, in my opinion, their faith and religious beliefs should have manifested in compassion for her and not condemnation. You mentioned they were religious, but you didn't mention what religion, so I don't know if they believe in Christianity. This should show, though, that it is better for Christians to follow the teachings of Christ and have compassion rather than acting like the Pharisees and teachers of the law by condemning people with self righteous indignation. It doesn't do any good to condemn people and it gives religion and pro-lifers a bad name.

 

I agree with you. They were Catholic

 

Great post, thank you.

 

Supporting their daughter's "right" to take away the life of an innocent child is not "compassion".

 

Why not?

 

Why would it be "compassion"? Maybe it's compassion if they say that they forgive their daughter and they dont judge her, but condoning her horrible actions is not "compassion" in any way, shape, or form.