[video=youtube;TMhf9SrbY3U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMhf9SrbY3U[/video] I just came across this video on YouTube which I believe reveals the real reason behind the latest Republican government shutdown. Back in July, Marco Rubio spilled the beans by telling Congress that they should shut down the government simply because it would allow Republicans to tell their constituents that they did everything they could to block Obamacare. Watch it closely if you don't understand what I'm talking about. Rubio repeatedly refers to voters who HAVE BEEN affected by Obamacare. In other words, the Republicans know that there's nothing they can do about it. What they're worried about is getting voted out by an angry mob of **********s who want an aggressive candidate in office. If the Republicans simply allowed Obamacare to go into effect without taking any extreme measures to prevent it, they would be seen as "weak" by their extremist supporters. So basically, their plan is to shut down the government until October 17. That's the date when Congress has to vote to increase the debt ceiling. Obviously, the consequences of not voting to increase the debt ceiling far outweigh the consequences if they do. So that leaves them with other no other choice than to cooperate with the Democrats who won in 2012. I think the evidence is quite clear here. These Republicans are willing to put almost a million government employees out of work just so that they can pull off a POLITICAL STUNT. This is a mistake on their part and I can assure you that the voters will not forget this. Sure, there are some Tea Party candidates who are in solid red districts. But any Republican that is vulnerable will feel the wrath of typical American voters who are obviously MODERATES.
Rubio is spot on. In fact, the people of the United States did everything they could to try and stop it. They didn't know the Liberals would pull this crap. Even the people of Massachusetts elected a Republican to the U.S. Senate to stop it. We of the TEA Party have agreed to fund the entire government. We even agreed to fund Obamacare. The ONLY request made was to give the private citizen the same 1 year waiver that Barack Obama and the Democrats gave the Crony Capitalist Big Businesses. That's it.
The backlash will be against the Democrats my friend. As you may know, a bill that makes major changes to the country's health care system became law in 2010. Based on what you have read or heard about that legislation, do you generally favor or generally oppose it? Sept. 27 - 29 2013 Favor 38% Oppose 57% No opinion 4% Mar 19 - 21 2010 Favor 39% Oppose 59% No opinion 2% http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/09/30/rel10a.pdf Obama Care remains as unpopular as ever. That's a CNN poll by the way.
Rubio is trying to buy CYA for himself with the Hard Right. They hate and mistrust him over immigration reform....so he hopes this will "smooth things over".
Scott Brown won because the liberals assumed that it wasn't necessary to run a campaign in Massachusetts. In the following election, he was replaced by Elizabeth Warren. That should pretty much say it all. What's more, the people of the United States did not vote for a republican candidate for president in 2012. They did not give the senate to republicans in 2012. The republicans didn't even win the majority vote for the house of representatives in 2012. This idea is just so ridiculous I'm not sure how to respond to it.
Thanks, but your take from Germany flies in the face of all polls on why Brown was elected at the time. It was all about stopping Obamacare.
wait....so the teaparty proposed legislation that will increase the national debt? I thought they were the fiscally conservative folks....
I find it rather hilarious that so many Republicans honestly believe that the general public will believe that the Democrats caused the government shutdown. The polls speak for themselves and anyone who isn't political will agree that the Republicans are at fault.
It's no different then how confident they were that they would beat Obama. They just make whatever they want up in their head and believe it.
The "silent majority" voted Obama into office. And the silent majority will end the gridlock in Washington by 2016. A single party will be in control and it won't be the Republicans.
That's the difficult part. Because the gerrymandering for House seats is so bad that it's possible that no matter how many people despise the Republicans they will still win the majority in the House. Senate and President is in the bag, it's the district based voting for House seats that are killing us. Take Pennsylvania for an example. There were more votes for House democrats than republicans but Republicans won 13 of 18 seats in the House. It's the same in North Carolina and elsewhere. It will be hard to get the House away from Republicans.
How do you think this nation as seen a slowing of the spending over the last few years? Obama? Democrats? ROFL.
yet here they are proposing legislation guaranteed to raise the debt EDIT: well maybe not...I keep reading it would save money because it would increase the number of insured so much they would make more money when it comes into effect (dont let it be said I cant admit im wrong....even when I wasnt caught yet lol)
You mean the same "Silent Majority" that voted 69 Democrats out of Congress in 2010 and only 10 back in 2012? - - - Updated - - - I don't think they are proposing another $840 Billion stimulus.
No, the ones who put Obama and the Democrats in complete power back in 2008 and made Obamacare possible. There are so many moderates and independents who don't vote as often as they should. Most of these voters will support the party that is closest to the center. The Republicans ran away from the center back in 2008. P.S. Was there ever a time in history when Republicans were in complete control? I'm just curious.
yah I was wrong anyway.....id take that deal for the 1 year delay so long as they pass a longer funding bill than 6 weeks and agree to raise the debt ceiling - - - Updated - - - redistricting played a very large role in that
If they were really doing everything they could to stop Obama Care, they would put forth an alternative and vote on that.
I guess it was because of the wars. Judging by the way McCain and other Republicans are talking, we would probably be at war with Syria and Iran if it weren't for Obama.
Disingenuous at best. The shutdown is on the hands of democrats, specifically harry reid and his mantra of "no, no. no. no". Harry chooses to play political games (actually more of a childish tantrum) and shuts the government down because of his ridiculous refusals. Then again, coming from a guy who'd rather see sick kids die, I'm not surprised.
Did you look at the date of this video? The Republicans were talking about shutting down the government months ago. Can you find a video of the Democrats saying that they want to shut down the government? If so, please post it.
See bold. It is the error of your thinking. In the game of politics the phrase that best fits that is "that was then, this is now." The Democrats are in decline. They lost the edge in the House BECAUSE of Obamacare and the failure of the stimulus....with many now speculating that they will lose some more ground in the upcoming mid terms. Obama's problem, in my opinion, is that he cannot let go of the fact he doesn't have a majority. He is not suited to compromise, as we are seeing AGAIN and so as he wanes in congress he becomes more and more obstinate. Frankly I think the Republicans have found his Achilles heal here.. The refuses to discuss thing i starting to stick and I have to point out that an opposition leader in Canada some years ago tried to take a similar position with the Conservatives and lasted one election cycle. To date Obama has shown incredible political savvy, surprising for such a youngster, but he seems to be losing it here. He misjudged Syria, is STILL carrying the Spy/Snowden thing and people are growing fed up with this...at least according to the polls... And what you don't realize is that it doesn't matter to the Republicans that they might "lose", as a year from now the fight over Obamacare will be forgotten again and they will be able to run on the false claim of fiscal responsibility. They know and so does Obama that he's finished if the Republicans get control of the Senate...and THAT is what is in play here...not the presidency....yet.
Well, you nailed ONE of the three groups that voted him in. The other two are the Deaf and the Blind.
Actually, the Tea Partiers coined the term "silent majority". I'm just trying to make the point that the real silent majority are the moderates and independents who love Socialist programs like Social Security. Not the people who are extremely political.
