Question For The Online Anti Jewish Lobby

This is not a question of being anti-jewish, it's a question of being anti-israel. Israel is not innocent. They have killed as many innocent people as any Islamic terrorist group. They have forced entire families out of their homes so that Israeli settlers can steal them. They have done many evil things, and for the majority of Palestinians, it's these evil acts that drive their hatred for Israel. If Israel stopped their expansion into palestinian lands and withdrew to their original borders, it would go a long way to establishing peace. There would always be a minority that simply hates jews and wants to destroy Israel, but the vast majority of Palestinians would support peace if the were able to get their land back. The best move would be to make Jerusalem a city-state, and have it belong to neither. They would also need to allow for safe passage through both nations for both Jewish and Muslims pilgrims, since both religions have important places in each others' land.

 

One thing's for sure: there is definitely an anti Jewish minority out there.....and they aren't too smart.

 

There can be no peace and justice where nationalism and religion inhabits .
Also it takes two to tango , Palestinians would be better if they didn't tried to assassinate the Jordanian king or start all this trouble in Lebanon.
Calling us anti-Jewish for condemning the continuation of 70 years old failed policies is like calling us anti-French for condemning French nuclear tests in the Pacific back in the 80's or anti-Americans for not subscribing to Bush's wars.
Some things are simply wrong despite who does them .

 

Perhaps you haven't noticed the frequent cross over between critics of Israel and Nazis. There seems to be a lot of that going around, just read this forum.

 

LOLOL.. The Aswan Dam had NOTHING to do with Israel's water supply .. just like the Suez Canal had NOTHING to do with Israel.

 

So far it looks like none of the supposed critics of Israel can actually answer the premise of the OP. Not too surprising.

 

Its a four second buffer zone.............

 

Being a critic of the Israeli government actions is 100% fine, in fact I have done it, in Israel, to members of the government. But when you attribute the actions to them being Jews, when you attack them as fake Jews, when you suggest they are planning to destroy the world, you are anti-Jewish. I see more of the later than the former.

 

I tend to agree. Compromise doesn't seem to actually offer Israel any guarantee of long term security and stability. So why compromise? What would their motivation be to even negotiate with people ideologically committed to Israel's destruction?

 

Cross over? Like demonizing Jews, taking their property, denying them rights?

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Its a four second buffer zone.. Read Martin Van Creveld... The claim that they need the West Bank for a buffer zone is a joke.

 

I think I was pretty clear. There are a number of people on this forum who are critical of Israel while expressing anti Jewish sentiments. I wonder if Palestinians resent being used as rhetorical tools of internet Nazis?

 

If the palestinians shoot rockets from an independent palestine the jews can retaliate as harshly as they wish and i certainly wont say a thing in protest.

But as long as the palestine is occupied, they have the right to resist with violence if necessary.

 

[video=youtube;63hTOaRu7h4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63hTOaRu7h4[/video]

 

Who are these "internet Nazis"? Are they taking Jewish property and persecuting them?

 

The history of the last fifty years suggests, in fact states baldly, that Israeli concession almost always beget more savagery on the part of the so-called Palestinians.

The six day war was provoked by the closing of the Gulf Of Aqaba to say nothing of the fact that the Jordanians, Syrians and Egyptians were all mobilizing for War before Israel Struck.

Mr. Creveld only reveals that his understanding of Modern war in built up areas is all but non existent.

And yes these online Jihadis are advocting the removl of property from Jews. It is called Israel. And it is the ancestral Jewish homeland going back to at least 800 BC when they finally bred out of existence the last of the Canaanites.

 

The Gulf of Aqaba was not closed.... Nasser invited the Israelis to talk... Remember that no Israeli flagged ship had used the Gulf of Aqaba passage for 14 months prior to the "closure"...

Canaanites, Syrians, Greeks and Egyptians as well as Arabs always lived in Palestine and the Levant.

Sargon 2 settled 4 Arab tribes in Samaria around 700 BC.

It was NEVER exclusively Jewish.

 

Happy? So why do you hate the Jews?

 

Sorry Samaria was not considered part of the Jewish state after Sargon II deported the ten northern Tribes Ergo You lose. Romans had an Army there too so I guess it was part Roman as well. The last Egyption incursion predates the founding of Israel and the Canaanites are no more their blood lines now beign contiguous with those of Israel. Nor has it ever been purely Arab, though they gave it a good shot. In fact the current Area known as Israel was all but unoccupied for most of the 18th and ninteenth century and was never even an independent province of the Ottoman Empire during that time.

Yeah right Nasser wanted to talk about surrendering Israel to the Egyptians...

 

Israel didn't exist either but for BRIEF TIME..

Read Ezra.. Arabs were in Jerusalem after the Babylonian exile...

LOLOL.. The Ottoman Empire ?? Like this?

 

Olive trees. Big deal. New varieties are better anyway and will out produce in 10 years. How many suicide bombings equals one tree?

No I just read their mission statement. What do you think there plans are? Peace and prosperity and proper treatment of women?

 

And the Mexicans were in California. What is your point? Spoils of war. If the Arabs still have a death wish Israel should oblige them. Otherwise they can get over it. Israel is the most stable nation in that region.

 

This is ignorant rubbish, and reckless generalisation is doomed to fail. You evidently see no distinction between a distaste for political Zionism and Jews in general. One can dislike the former and not the latter very easily. I would find any government which acts in the way the Likud operates to be distasteful. The fact that they are majority Jews is irrelevant and purely incidental.

 

Ok, so you're happy with anyone disregarding the rule of international law-as Israel is doing with its continued occupation of Palestinian territory. And I'm sorry but "spoils of war" is an antiquated and irrelevant concept with no basis in law. Get over it.

 

Nonsense. The only International Law is the law enforced by the United States. We are judge and jury. The French and Brits also have some say in their old colonies which is most of the world. They did a terrible job when they left because they were spiteful about it, and caused all sorts of problems in Araby - on purpose.

Hmm....but a basis in reality huh? You keep your laws, I will see the world as it is. Besides, Palestinians have been breaking International law for years.

 

Yeah, I see how you all post. You and Jack Napier come off as full on anti Jew. If you don't see that re-read your own posts and think about it. Months of material. Just replace all references to Jews with references to blacks, and you will get it. Most of Europe is this way. I have never in my life met any leftist that grew up in Europe that didn't have ill feelings towards Jewish people. It is incomprehensible to me, people think there is a real movement for Jewish people to take over in American politics, and how dangerous it would be if Israel got to keep a tiny little country, and how they never mention land absorbed by Syria and Jordan. Meanwhile, the highest office a Jew ever got to in America - was in the confederacy.

I can see a difference, but they usually overlap.

Israeli politics is all too leftist for me, but people who want Palestine to take over Israel, or support Arab warring nations over Israel kind of want to see them pushed off the face of the earth. I am not sure if it is always an anti-semite thing, might just be an anti religious thing. I find these people tend to be atheist, and don't like religious people. Probably doesn't matter what religion.