Israeli awarded Nobel Prize in chemistry !!

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  1. MGB ROADSTER

    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences announced on Wednesday that Israeli scientist Arieh Warshel, together with scientists Martin Karplus and Michael Levitt, have won this year's Nobel Prize in chemistry for laying the foundation for computer models used to understand and predict chemical processes.
    The Swedish academy noted that their research in the 1970s has helped scientists develop programs that unveil chemical processes such as the purification of exhaust fumes or the photosynthesis in green leaves.

    "The work of Karplus, Levitt and Warshel is ground-breaking in that they managed to make Newton's classical physics work side-by-side with the fundamentally different quantum physics," the academy said. "Previously, chemists had to choose to use either/or."
    Warshel is a US and Israeli citizen affiliated with the University of Southern California in Los Angeles. Levitt is a British citizen and a professor at the Stanford University School of Medicine who has also held positions at the Weizmann Institute for many years. Karplus, a US and Austrian citizen is affiliated with the University of Strasbourg, France, and Harvard University.
    Warshel told a news conference in Stockholm by telephone that he was "extremely happy" to be awakened in the middle of the night in Los Angeles to find out he had won the prize and looks forward to collecting the award in the Swedish capital in December.


    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4438595,00.html

    :applause: :applause: :applause:

    Congratulations !!
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    I offer my congratulations to the doctors as well as to the people of Israel.

    :)
     
  3. Munqi

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    are the other 2 j00z aswell?
     
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    One is British, the other Austrian. I trust Mr. Roadster will offer them his congratulations as well.
     
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    Not sure what this news item is doing on a political forum, but congratulations to the winners.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    The Israeli deserves a special congratulations.
    Why, because a tiny country produced 11 !! Nobel Winners !!
    BTW, the British is also Jewish and used to work & study in Israel in the 80's.
    Pro Islamist Arabs have no appreciation !! After all, 70 percent of all Prize winners are Arabs .. :roflol: :roflol:

    Zero Arab Nobel winners ever from 350 Million Arabs ! That's a fact. Buzzzzz
    What do they contribute to the modern world ?
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    They contribute oil to make the plastic which forms the computer you're typing on. And these things:http://www.ranken-energy.com/Products from Petroleum.htm
    And frankly nobody gives a damn that the prizewinner was a Jew. So, no Arabs won a dumb prize? Big deal.
     
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    Well whaddaya know. Finally someone gets a Nobel Prize for the purpose of which Alfred Nobél intended it for -- some real, hard-core science instead of some pseudo, soft, social-science caca.

    For many years the sociology bunch has been handing out Nobel Prizes to everyone except true scientists. Even Obama got one -- a peace prize, I think.

    Alfred must roll over in his grave every time some phony lil' nincompoop gets a prize in his prestigious name.
     
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    This certainly is an attestment to world peace and the kind of knowledge we should ascribe to. If we could hear more of this, and engaging in this kind of behavior the world would be a better place.

    More Nobel scientists, less war propaganda and "fear" and "specialness". These scientists should be incredibly proud of their accomplishments.
     
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    It sure is....and it's done by two US-based scientists with Israeli passports and one American Jew...and it reflects the values of the state of Israel and world Jewry, not just these three individual scientists...and Jewish/Israeli scientists win Nobel prizes every year.......Please remind us how many representatives of Israel's enemy states demonstrate similar attestment to world peace and the betterment of humanity? Thanks in advance....
     
  11. Jack Napier

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    Lol ,

    This is just typical and charachterisitc tribal posturing and nepotism.
    I guess now that they have these awards, they can go on producing new bio-chem weapons for Israel to hide behind, while pointing a finger at a boy with a stone.

    How did they fair with atomic power? That played out well, because of it we had a real holocost in Japan, and we came close to a nuclear war during MAD, and we have all the issues relating to it today. So well done Oppenheimer et all, it must have made him very happy to be the "destroyer".
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    A new study—which shows that Israelis score below the world average in a MBA standardized test—is the latest evidence to disprove the oft-claimed “Jewish intellectual superiority” used as an excuse for their domination of academic institutions.
    The report, as published in the Israel Ynet News service, showed that “Israelis taking the Graduate Management Admission Test (GMAT) score lower grades than the global average.

    “According to the annual report of the Graduate Management Admission Council (GMAC), an international non-profit organization of business schools, Israeli examinees scored an average grade of 484 points in 2012, while the average grade of all GMAT examinees was 548 points.

    “Although the Israelis’ average score is higher than that of candidates from the Middle East – 440 points, American examinees reached a more impressive figure with an average of 530 points.

    “Examinees from Australia and the Pacific region top the list with an average of 597 points, followed by examinees from Southeast Asia with 578 points.

    “The United States leads in the number of examinees with 144,650 students who took the test, despite an average annual drop of 1.4% in the past five years. An average annual increase of 11.2% was recorded in the overall number of examinees from outside the US, with Israel ranking 12th with 2,385 GMAT examinees.”

    GMAT is an admission test for a graduate management program, such as MBA, in the world’s leading universities. It assesses a person’s analytical, writing, quantitative, verbal, and reading skills in standard written English. However, there are additional requirements for master’s degree studies, including work experience, credentials, essays and volunteer work.

    The claim that Jews are “cleverer” than other people is most often given as the reason why they dominate academic institutions in America in particular—but that has been thoroughly disproved with the release of Ron Un’s paper, “The myth of American meritocracy:

    How corrupt are Ivy League admissions,” which shows that Jewish students actually perform less well academically than non-Jews, and that their domination of academic institutions is exclusively due to an organized campaign of discrimination against non-Jewish would-be students.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4397187,00.html
     
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    "And frankly nobody gives a damn that the prizewinner was a Jew."?

    We Jews do. We have a sense of Tribal Identity. A winner amongst us makes us feel good.
    A Bernie Madoff makes us feel bad.
    After World War 2 it was expected the Germans demonstrate some "tribal guilt" over the holocaust .
    But, Germans do not have that aptitude.

    Tribal identity exists, along with pride and shame.


    Moi :oldman:
     
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    There we have it.
     
  14. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have what ? Meaning, what - "it" ?
    Something negative I would guess.
    If truly negative, it is a cowardly upload.

    Moi :oldman:
     
  15. Jack Napier

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    No, no, on the contrary, at least you admit it.

    That is a good thing.
     
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    No Jack, it is a scientific achievement and it is recognized as much as the article states;

    "The work of Karplus, Levitt and Warshel is ground-breaking in that they managed to make Newton's classical physics work side-by-side with the fundamentally different quantum physics," the academy said. "Previously, chemists had to choose to use either/or."
     
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    Like my selective clairvoyance - ask bobov for confirmation
    there is nothing to "admit". It is.
    Others may not perceive it the same.

    So why do Jewish persons continue to achieve Nobel Prizes disproportionately?
    They are not denied land ownership and all the excuses of a hundred years ago.
    Criminality is also a different mode. Sure there was Murder, Inc. and Mayer Lansky,
    there just seem to be fewer petty violent criminals. Right, Jewish crime is better thought out. :blankstare:


    Moi :oldman:



    For a freakier time, investigate Robert E. Howard of Conan fame and much, much more
    concept of "tribal memory".
     
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    Perhaps you ought to take a moment to consider that all this "tribal" chest-beating translates to the reader as arrogance which, I'm sure you will agree, is not an attractive quality. A little dignity and self-restraint is far less off-putting than bombast and displays of hyperbole.
    What the scientists have achieved, as I understand it, is good for science. Science is for everyone, not just Israel.
     
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    Fair Warning.

    Focus on the topic.

    Falena
    Political Forum Moderator
     
  20. a sound mind

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    wow...
    u think u r smarter, but why u act like a little child? u just want to humiliate arabs, and u probably wonder why they hate u...
     
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    1. It's silly to take things like number of Nobel Prizes too seriously. Neither you nor I have a Nobel Prize or are likely to ever have. A person's self-worth is ultimately theirs alone. It shouldn't be much affected by any groups to which they belong. Praise or blame assigned to whole categories of people is the game played by bigots.

    2. If Arabs hate Jews (you said this), I doubt Nobel Prizes have much to do with it. If your complaint is about Jewish self-esteem, don't Arabs like themselves? They should, but if not, I doubt anything said or done by Jews has much to do with it. Jews, after all, do not depend for their self-esteem on the good opinion of Arabs.

    P.S. Several Arabs have won Nobel Prizes. The Peace Prize was won by Anwar Sadat in 1978, Yasser Arafat in 1994, Mohamed El Baradei in 2005, and Tawakel Karman in 2011. Naguib Mahfouz won for Literature in 1988 and Ahmed Zewail for Chemistry in 1999.
     
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    It works the other way too.
    A sense of "Shame" over the Bernie Madoff(s)
    There were jokes about "the relief felt" when it was discovered the villain, "Son of Sam" Berkowitz was an
    Italian baby adopted in a Jewish home.
    Comprende?
    What a better world it would be if more individuals had a sense of Tribe that helped keep them on the straight and narrow. Not religion.
    What a better world it would be if when Black people go tribal, it didn't mean running down Hollywood Blvd in a herd, snatching peoples' cellphones and ladies' purses. It happened like that with the Zimmerman verdict.
    And the LAPD just gave them wide latitude.
    What a better world it would be if when a Black person committed a crime, the Black community felt a wave of hurt.
    Jewish, maybe similar to some Asians, Tribal guilt helps control crime.



    Moi :oldman:
    In college, my Mormon room mate and I had a non aggression pact not to call each other gentile.
     
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    Collective praise or blame makes little sense most of the time. When I was a kid, my father loved to boast of Albert Einstein and how smart he was. Yet my father knew no physics, so Einstein's distinction was remote from him, or so it seemed to me. We all stand or fall alone in the end.

    Collective judgments do acquire some sense when we see certain behavior persisting in one group at far above the normal rate. If these results reach statistical significance and have lasted as long as records have been kept, then we may say that the group is different. That leaves the question of why they're different unanswered. Is it some combination of environmental or cultural factors? Is it genetic? Some interaction of circumstances and genes? If the difference is important it might become a question for research.

    We can't help but notice people in the news, including their race, ethnicity, gender, etc. It's easy to be swept away by emotion about such things. But we're better off resisting the temptation.
     
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    You dont actually have much of clue about the prize do you?
     
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    It has just been announced that the peace prize went to the OPCW. During the speech it was mentioned that the two countries involved in the removal of chemical weapons from Syria have the largest stockpile of chemical weapons with no intention of removing them.........

    I was hoping that the Afghan girl would get it as I believe that would have made more of a statement than giving it to a political entity.....
     

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