Ask your U.S. Rep. to Abolish Birthright Citizenship

Yeah, it seems fairly straight forward to me. This type of change would require a Constitutional amendment. The only children born in the US who aren't entitled to citizenship are the children of diplomats because diplomats are not subject to US jurisdiction. Now, if they passed a law saying illegals are not subject to US law THEN they could possibly get away with this. But I somehow doubt anyone would want that.

 

You have got me the longest lasting Poe I have ever seen on any forum. That is some serious dedication. Kudos on that.

 

Anyone who would punish a child for their parents' wrong doing has the of a modern French person.

Is there no "sense of shame" left in those who would deny any child within America's borders sustenance, medical care, education, etc.
The bill is not really that high and the solution lies in securing the borders, 360 degrees.
I don't wanna be feeding any Canadian kids either.

I remember back in Junior High School, learning of the problem of birth citizenship when the parents are illegal.
And that was back in 1961. If one is born in country, they are a natural born citizen. Even if it is by c-section


Moi

 

The 14th Amendment was intended to give blanket citizenship to the newly freed black slaves. Later on the SCOTUS extended it to the Chinese. Mexicans weren't included until much later.

 

Let's make everyone in the world a citizen then we can tax the hell out of them.

 

To those having questions, you should realize that most of the world, except a few countries, does not have birthright citizenship, but inherited citizenship only. So just look at any foreign country how abolition of birthright citizenship would work. It is nothing new under the Sun.

I certainly support the abolition of birthright citizenship. It is completely absurd that just because you are born in some place you should get their citizenship. If you live in the US longterm (years) and grow up there, then that can be a reason to grant a US citizenship. But not simply being born on US territory.

 

Leave them in a rowboat in international waters.

You have absolutely no idea what you are blathering about.

 

How could they deport them? They cannot, because deporting your own citizens is not allowed, and since citizenship is also inherited from parents, nobody will be without any citizenship. Seriously, most of the world has no birthright citizenship. Non-issues like these were solved long ago.

Abolishing birthright citizenship does not necessarily mean someone gets their citizenship revoked. It means no new citizenships will be granted based only on place of birth. And being American is certainly about more than simply a place of birth.

 

Sure.

Black dems who hate Cruz just because he isn't black.

 

I've seen proposals to revoke birthright citizenship altogether, going forward. You'd have to meet various proposed qualifications to become a citizen, and vote, even if born here of two citizen parents. With just a little corruption and abuse the qualifications could be made easy for the 'right' people, and close to impossible for the 'wrong sort.' After a generation the masses would all be in some second-class non-voting status, and you could bring back birthright citizenship for the elite.

 

I won't be doing that.

 

I doubt if it would be up to you.

 

Source, please. That is not what those opposed to birthright citizenship have in mind. Citizenship would still be inherited (jus sanguinis) from parents, as usual. Revoking birthright citizenship (jus soli) should thus only affect children of non-citizens.

 

Here is my proposal:

All people currently protected by birthright citizenship maintain their citizenship. Henceforth, however, we move to an inherited citizenship system. We deprive nobody of their current right, we merely set a new precedent. Now, all people who come to the United States of America, illegally, are provided with the steps to gain a citizenship and not be flung back out of the country on the presuming basis that they entered illegally for selfish reasons. It's perfectly plausible that illegal aliens, a majority of the time, enter due to abhorrent conditions in their home country and often have great trouble securing legal immigration. So if they immigrate illegally, we don't punish, we provide treatment. We provide the means to make legal their immigration by enabling them the path to citizenship.

Legal immigrants, of course, secure their citizenship as per the law, and their children inherit this citizenship. Illegal immigrants will be required to obtain their citizenship, and once they do, children they have will be citizens as well. As for children born while illegal immigrants have not yet acquired their citizenship, they shall be provided their citizenship upon their parents completion of the citizenship program. And if the parent is unable, or in extreme cases, the child must be provided the chance to become a legal citizen.

This system would both be efficient, it would be effective and undeniably fair. They don't come to steal our jobs and suckle the government's welfare. They come, more often than not, because they must, or face conditions they cannot survive in within their own countries.

Please consider it.

- Locke