The Benghazi Hoax

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    However Susan Rice was put up to do it.And given exclusive talking pts.that originated
    from the White House but no one is willing to go on record outing the person in the
    Obama Adm. responsible for sending Rice out on a Sunday morning using the same
    talking pts.The White House wasted so much news Cycle and print in trying to
    pass the buck and eventually blame every agency but the ones most responsible.
    Which was the State dept.
     
  2. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Indeed! Their entire narrative has been a lie and they still have to justify not intervening in an attack that lasted for eight whole hours! Am I crazy or would you think that would be the normal reaction of the President of the United States of America?
     
  3. SFJEFF

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    Just posting what all of us really know

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    Rather than seeking to learn what went wrong with Benghazi's security in order to improve the security at other U.S. diplomatic facilities, Republicans in Congress, enabled every step of the way by the right-wing noise machine, have turned this American tragedy into a political football. But The Benghazi Hoax shows how, after 18 congressional hearings, more than 100 interviews, and the production of 25,000 administration documents, Republicans failed to find any wrongdoing by President Obama, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, or any of their other targets.

    From false claims about the "stand down" order that conservatives say was given to U.S. military forces during the attack, to conspiracies about Clinton faking a concussion to avoid testifying before Congress, the e-book gives readers the facts behind the right-wing lies.
     
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    No they did not. No Americas died in any of those incidents. Bush with all his flaws still provided security for embasies in danger Islamo run areas and he had the intelligence to recognize that those same people are our sworn enemies and he took the seriously at their word. Obama, if he had any convictions, should have turned Benghazi into a smokeing hole to serve as warning to Islamo's every where do not (*)(*)(*)(*) with us or you will pay dearly for disrespecting your betters.
     
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    American bases in Afghanistan and the Green Zone in Iraq never was targeted between 2001-2008 in your world, huh ?
    must be nice
     
  6. SFJEFF

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    Gross negligence?

    Today is the 30th anniversary of the death of over 300 marines who died from a car bombing in Lebanon under Reagan.

    Now that was gross negligence.
     
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    Hitlery! Brilliant!
     
  8. Yosh Shmenge

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    Let's say there was no stand down order to intervene in the Benghazi attack....why did no US forces come to the aid of our compound under siege?
    Care to provide an alternate explanation for our lack of military intervention?
    Benghazi is ringed by military instillations all perfectly capable of having military support show up in two hours or less? You people recycle the same lies and lame contentions over and over and over again.
     
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    "What difference does it make" is the most incompetent arrogent statement ever uttered by a supposed american politician ever. No real American would say such a thing. Obama and Hillary and every one they know is a disgrace.
     
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    The only hoax is the perception that Obummer and her thighness had anything that remotely looked like a working foreign policy plan.
     
  11. SFJEFF

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    Just like Reagan did when over 300 marines were killed during a car bombing 30 years ago today? Oh wait-no thats not what Reagan did.

    Or maybe when the U.S. Embassy was bombed 6 months before that and 17 Americans were killed? Did Reagan turn Beirut into a 'smoking hole' as you think is the proper response?

    Or maybe the September 17, 2008 attack on the U.S. Embassy in Yemen....where 1 American died.

    Bush of course 'provided security for embassies in danger and of course turned Yemen into a smoking hole.....oh wait.....

    No double standards at all.....none at all...
     
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    Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates under both Presidents George W. Bush and Obama also recently admitted that, had he been in charge at the time, the response would have been the same, saying, “Frankly, had I been in the job at the time I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were. We don’t have a ready force standing by in the Middle East. "Despite all the turmoil that’s going on, with planes on strip alert, troops ready to deploy at a moment’s notice. And so getting somebody there in a timely way – would have been very difficult, if not impossible … The one thing that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm’s way. And there just wasn’t time to do that.” The administration may deserve criticism for the inefficient response, but the notion that the second team could have saved the Americans who died or were told to stand down for political reasons is not supported by the evidence.

    Read more at: http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/05/myths-benghazi-attack-coverup-factcheck/
     
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    Not to Obama voters at least. It does matter to real Americans who see beyond the lies and cover up and diffusion provided by the pro Soetoro/Hillary press. Four of the best people in our nation died because of an administration that does not want to believe the obvious that Islam is our enemy that they so clearly demonstrate is true from time to time and that the Benghazi 9/11 attack was a memorial of the martyred heros of the New York 9/11.

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    ...thats our little Barry...
     
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    I have always thought that was revenge for the betrayal of the Sabra and Shatila massacre.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre
     
  15. SFJEFF

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    More on that

    AMBASSADOR PICKERING,
    “The question of, could military aircraft have made a difference? Could they have gotten there in time? And the answer at that time, through the defense attaché, to Mr. Hicks was, “No.” Subsequently, Admiral Mullen looked at that very carefully. General Dempsey did. They both have testified that there was no military capacity to get there.”

    BOB GATES (former Secretary of Defense under Presidents Bush and Obama:
    “Well, first of all I have to say I only know what I have read in the media. I haven’t had any briefings or anything. And I– I think the one where place where I might be able to say something useful– has to do with some of the talk about– the military response. And I listened to the testimony of– both Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. And– and frankly had I been in the job at the time– I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were. We don’t have a ready force standing by in the Middle East. Despite all the turmoil that’s going on, with planes on strip alert, troops ready to deploy at a moment’s notice. And so getting somebody there in a timely way– would have been very difficult, if not impossible. And frankly, I’ve heard “Well, why didn’t you just fly a fighter jet over and try and scare ‘em with the noise or something?” Well, given the number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from Qaddafi’s arsenals, I would not have approved sending an aircraft, a single aircraft– over Benghazi under those circumstances. And– and with respect to– sending in special forces or a small group of people to try and provide help, based on everything I have read, people really didn’t know what was going on in Benghazi contemporaneously. And to send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground, I think, would have been very dangerous. And personally, I would not have approved that because we just don’t it’s sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces. The one thing that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm’s way. And there just wasn’t time to do that.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_16...ickering-ayotte-durbin-and-angelou/?pageNum=4

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    As opposed to the 300 marines who died in Lebanon under Reagan- apparently they aren't among the 'best'
     
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    Yawn...nobody is perfect.
     
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    That's the most pathetically transparent bit of garbage I think I've ever heard.
    If we can't get someone from one of our Mediterranean bases to Benghazi in an eight hour period than Gates should be fired and if our military personnel are not prepared to deal with terrorism should it strike then Gates should be fired as well for that.

    Frankly his comments are stomach turning and only magnify what a duplicitous bunch of A holes we have covering for Barry Sotero Obama.
     
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    The Israelis betrayed Reagan...
     
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    hmmm who to believe?

    Former Secretary of Defense under Bush and Obama?

    Or a consistantly anti-Obama partisan poster?

    Man- so difficult in figuring out who has more credibility in this issue.....

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    So true.

    What were you whining about Obama about again?
     
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    Mistakes were made, but they are not admitted because of the 'optics'. Obama and his sidekick Hillary have the blood of their betters dripping from their hands and they could have wiped it off if they acted like Americans. And the perpetrator walks free and Obama knows where he lives and does nothing.

    Reagans inaction strengthened Islamonazism and a thourough ass whooping would have displayed our power and their inability to stand up to it would have exposed the cowardly tactic as ultimately ineffective.
     
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    Yeah, maybe...they have a very unique geo-political situation, no other country in the world is expected to live securely with an enemy with in its border. But sadly, that is the situation of many countries who have allowed Islamos to pollute their soild, France, Germany, Britian, The United States all have an Islamo infestation problem.
     
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    All you have to do to wind up the wingnuts is say one word, "Benghazi!" and they go stark raving bananas.

    :roflol:

    [video=youtube;Yai54n6uo9E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yai54n6uo9E[/video]
     
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    By not doing a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing thing is the same as pulling the trigger

    Then, he chose to lie about it for weeks, until he got caught lying. Obama could murder your children and I think you would still give him a pass, especially since you don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about the families of the 4 murdered
     
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    My friend in the CIA was in Beirut when our boys were turned into roasts.. Where were you?
     
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    Explain which one was denied support,and then lies repeatedly told as to what actually happened?
    THAT happened in my world on 9/11/2012
     

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