The Sinking Ship That Is Obama's America

That all sounds reasonable until threatening default, that is cheating for lack of better words like extortion and blackmail.

 

S1 A7.

You have to read the whole thing. It isn't like the bible. You can't just quote the parts you like.

 

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ob..._mail_job=1541987_10172013&promo_code=15334-1

Just one more example of this President and this administration's duplicity.

They're buggering us.

They and their quislings on Capital Hill.

 

From post #53:

 

The priorities for the $250 billion in taxes collected each month have more important places to go than keeping our credit rating good, like welfare payments to the poor. Do you know how many homeless people would be created if they failed to raise the debt ceiling?

So it was vital to raise the debt ceiling, and comparable to blackmail or extortion.

 

Quick, tell the Congress Critters that they have been doing it wrong for the past 224 years.

 

It was fascinating to watch half of the Democratic Party's voters work to convince themselves that a first term U.S. senator with no meaningful national level experience or leadership history would make a better president during a time of major and multiple national and world problems than an experienced U.S. senator personally trained by the best president the Democratic Party had enjoyed for decades so that she could be an effective president from day one. So -- yes -- that was hilarious . . . or at least tragic-comedic in nature. It was like watching a nation full of idiots gleefully sitting on a speeding bandwagon that was heading over a high cliff while they exclusively focused their eyes and brains on the pretty clouds in the sky while they moronically chanted the utterly meaningless phrases of "Hope and Change!" and "Yes We Can!"

Of course it would have been more amusing to watch if the happy idiots were not dragging the rest of the nation along with them at the time.

 

They haven't. Where did you get confused?

 

Whilst the wacko birds fixate on the President, Americans react to their antics:

Democrats undoubtedly hope the GOP dissidents persist in befouling themselves.

 

Obama was nominated over Clinton for one reason only: The 'Black vote' which would guarantee the LIBs got a LIB into the White house.
Naturally Obama had to polish up on his S. Baptist drawl which to his credit he did quite well.
The LIB 'back room boys' knew Obama wouldn't be able to ever be anything like even a mediocre President but they knew they could put their people around Obama and lead him around by the nose.
Anyway. There will never be another 'Black' President and I do mean never. Not with the population demo-graphics heading the way they are. It's going to be White women and Asian and East Indian and Hispanics who will put their feet on the Oval office desk for decades to come. The only 'Black' who will ever darken the Oval office door will be the woman who does the vacuuming.
The 'OJ jury' who were responsible for electing Obama were so naive as to believe Obama would actually do something to help raise up the race. He didn't do SFA for them. He never intended to. Ironically Obama has managed to tarnish the 'Black' brand and speed up 'Black' irrelevancy in America.
"Trayvon could have been my son" my ***!
Close your eyes and see if you can visualize millions and millions of Hispanics/ Asians/East Indians/Whites headed for the polling stations. See any of them wearing a button with the photo of a Black candidate? Now you can open your eyes.

 

"its cause he's black" Look pinhead he is as white as he is black. Furthermore, there are more non blacks on welfare than blacks, so opposition to runaway welfare and stupid runaway social spending is clearly NOT RACIST! His policies are a wholesale failure! Only the most ignorant could believe otherwise.

 

Exactly, and when did the half white and half black POTUS become suddenly "Black"?

 

Good move. You seem unable to accept what just happened in front of everyone's eyes.

Actually that was Obama. Let me show you again. Maybe a different source, saying the same thing, will suddenly fill you with wisdom (actually I know it won't).
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ama-i-will-not-negotiate-on-the-debt-ceiling/

Why it's almost as if he's saying,
I will not negotiate with you. I will not even discuss the issue. Give me 100% of what I want or I will shut down the government.

Actually he IS saying that and he DID shut down government. "In case there’s any confusion, I will not negotiate over whether or not America keeps its word and meets its obligations; I will not negotiate over the full faith and credit of the United States," Obama said. "Let's stop the threats, stop the political posturing."

Oddly enough, however, people knew that, all the while, defaulting on our debt was a bluff. We had the revenue and the constitution demands we pay our debts (14th Amendment). http://www.powerlineblog.com/archiv...-and-wont-default-on-its-debt-obligations.php
So where is the power to extort? How could republicans possibly cause the nation to fail to meet it's obligations? Even if they wanted to
not pay our bills you tell me how they could ever do that.

But republicans were unwilling pay the high political price that
opposing the puppet master would cause.

Considering my citation above (Powerline), how did the republicans threaten to "ruin" the country? What power did they have to "extort" considering paying the debt was all in the hands of the president?
I doubt you have the intellectual honesty it takes to actually admit the truth, seeing as how wrapped up in a lie you are, but you cannot disprove the facts.

God kill me if I ever get so deep into my own lies that I cannot distinguish between political theater and the truth.

Considering the shifting sands massive debt has this country standing on, and considering that the republican objective was to get the president to agree to spending cuts to offset the debt ceiling raise (that was never in reality in doubt) all your comments must be seen as hysteria and, more importantly, the REAL threat to our nation's well being.

 

We all watched what happened. You looked, but apparently were unable to see.

No, that was the tea party. But I see there's no way to penetrate here.

That's right. There shouldn't be any strings attached to funding the government. Obama offered to negotiate on spending. The tea party knew they'd lose on spending. So the tea party decided to use extortion. Obama rejected that approach. If you were honest, you would too. But that's expecting far too much from you.

If there were any gods, you'd be dead now. You should give thanks there are not.

Now we're descending into stupidity. Moderate Republicans and many Democrats and Independents wish to cut government spending, many of them would like to raise taxes, and everyone wants a balanced budget. For the majority, the way to do that is to sit down and figure out what can be cut, what can be taxed, etc. For the fanatics, the way to do it is to DEMAND that everyone else follow their agenda, OR ELSE they will wreck the US credit. This is not honest negotiation.

I had hoped you could understand this, but in your case hope is wasted. I'll go back to reading the editorials by Republican strategists, who seem to understand politics.

 

It does make you question the kneejerk leftwing labeling standards for minorities, doesn't it? I mean George Zimmerman and Barack Obama have nearly identical half white bloodlines and yet the hatemongers on the left instantly reclassified Brown Skin Toned Zimmerman White Hispanic while continuing to insist that Obama is Black rather than a White African American. They need to become consistent in their racism and in their race-baiting practices . . . because people have begun to notice their extreme hypocrisy and blatant double-standards.

 

Ew. I hate Republicans.

 

Right. And you are the one that has peed his pants in angst because the Tea Party right was going to default on our debt and "throw the world into a Depression" (really...that was claimed)- even though as I demonstrated that's something Congress cannot do, even if they wanted to (which they did not).

Apparently facts don't count for much with you but you really ought to see what the 14th Amendment has to say about this though you already ignored my link that discusses it all. I'm not even really posting for your benefit anymore as I've never seen anyone so completely deluded.
I'm just hoping now others are looking in and picking up some wisdom.

Well I can't believe this escaped your keen well functioning brain but the debt ceiling is not an automatically self advancing concept. As much as you'd like Obama to be at least two out of three branches of government, granting himself all the money he wants to spend, Congress has a responsibility to control the flow of money and with $17 trillion dollars in debt under El Diablo, you really can't say they are doing a very good job, though a good portion of that came when the dems controlled both sides of Congress.

So the notion there should be "no strings" attached to our budget process (of which the debt ceiling is part) is both childishly naïve and profoundly ignorant at the same time. But listen to me...trying to talk sense into an O-zombie. Fat chance, right?

When was that? Citations please.

Oh.......right, "extortion" again. Congress cannot stop the president from paying our debt. Only the president can do that. How exactly were they "extorting" him?
Why don't you try to be half as honest as you are delusional and explain where the extortion charge is coming from? And even at that, the shut down was a partial one, so I guess "extortion" isn't what it used to be.

Ouch! How that stings, considering the source.
It's so hard to negotiate when one of the parties has already announced they will get !00% of their demands or see the government shut down.

But God does exist and I am not dead which I take as vindication of my positions here. Well, that and the overwhelming preponderance of facts I bring to this issue.
What's your excuse?

See if you can figure out who is the only figure in this whole fight who declared he would not budge an inch and would not negotiate.....period!

Here's a hint:http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-news-conference-government-shutdown/2944777/
Oh...that's right. You consider bull headed intransigence a virtue when your president exhibits it.

Yes. Do find some other way to spend your time.

 

Incredible. Lie after lie after lie after lie after lie after lie...

Do you think everyone else is stupid, or are you just posturing for your fellow liars?

In any case, your final advice is good. There are few WORSE ways to waste my time. Believe what you're told by your masters. They LOVE you, you know.

 

Not a single one of which that you have
proven wrong, by the way. You've even stopped addressing them now and trying to weasel away in favor of a tantrum.

Take your biggest whopper, for example...extortion. Republicans were going to default on our debt payments yet I've literally given you links a half dozen times now showing Congress does not control those payments...the president does!

Your increasingly insulting posts show a high level of frustration on your part. You're welcome!

You are angry and cornered. My work here is done, as are you.

 

When it facillitates the playing of:

 

You think America's in bad shape now? This is just the tip of the iceberg.

 

Obama's sinking ship? I dont think so. If you took all of the receipts for Obamas bad debt you could actually build an Ark with them that could hold the whole population of Hollywood, the staff at MSNBC and the entire Obama administration supplied with enough government cheese for 100 years!