Brain differences between Liberals and Conservatives

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  1. carloslebaron

    carloslebaron New Member

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    Apparently the studies were politicized to a dualist scenario.

    A complete study might have included "independents".
     
  2. justoneman

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    Its completely partisan and it is totally hack science. Its a joke. Total quantity of people/brains studied? 90. ridiculous. Someone had a theory and went looking to find something to prove the theory. Its pure politics mixed with bad science.
     
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    21st century phrenology.
     
  4. mutmekep

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    Eugenics ? haha nice one.
    And by the way the left never had god kings , they centralized authority and it didn't started in Europe but in ME .
    Collectives under central soviet rule were parts of state run capitalism.
     
  5. Regular Joe

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    Yup. As it stands, we're witnessing several "tipping points" that indicate movement toward cataclysmic change. The American nat'l debt. World population. Climate change. I see indicators within American society that one is better off to just keep quiet about, because no better idea is forthcoming.
    It seems to me that this iteration of civilization is about to come undone. It's like watching a huge storm taking shape off shore, or feeling the tremors that precede an earthquake or volcano.
    As for differences in brains... I was just reading a thread on the Science forum about how we've been interbreeding for the last 338,000 years, with near Neanderthals currently living in isolated places in sub-saharan Africa. Of course, you'll find brains in all stages of physical development. That shouldn't matter much, as long as the people with those brains are able to integrate into society as positive aspects. Contribute something. Pull your own weight. Have a nice life.
     
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  7. Whaler17

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    Sad dodge, again what part of the left wing brain is responsible for their irresponsibility?
    - - - Updated - - -

    So having other ignorant people calling you ignorant was that important to you? WOW :omg:
     
  8. Whaler17

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    true, "better" is a matter of degrees, very slight ones in many cases.
     
  9. doombug

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    LIberals brains aren't that impressive. THey are silly dreamers who lack the common sense to be pratical. OBamacare proves it. They had the dream for everyone to have health care but lack the common sense to be able to actually make it happen. THat is why they are begging republicans for help.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is hilarious. It made my day. :thumbsup:

    I'm off to work... if only I could find my way there...
     
  11. fifthofnovember

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    This study would seem to provide evidence for my theory that conservatism is man's thinking, and liberalism is woman's thinking.



    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2013/09/25/are-mens-brains-just-bigger/#.UoN8V6ojuUk

    http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/men-women-different-brains1.htm
     
  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So your brain structure changes when you get tired too?:roll:

    Just kidding, but the first caveat that always has to be put into these is that the effects of almost any kind of deep brain structure difference is very global and general. One man may be a textbook psychopath himself because of it and another a saintly priest with an uncanny insight into the minds of psychopaths. It's like the MMPI. which often gives the same readings for musicians and mathematicians, though one loves numbers and thinks guitars were invented to cut his fingers, while the other is in a band and can't keep track of what he's being paid. People are larger wholes than just their brains. You have to consider their bodies as well, and let's not even get started on how much of your personality comes from your upbringing..
     
  13. rexob715

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    No read it again. Sorry you didn't understand, but I doubt you ever will no matter how hard you try! LOL
     
  14. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    I would hope that nobody takes the OPs article seriously. First day when I was in college studying brain physiology, my professor warned the class about studies like this. He said that in brain study, there are no typologies, with the exception of schizophrenia. There isn't a liberal brain and there isn't a conservative brain. There isn't a man's brain and there isn't a woman's brain. There are extremely subtle differences between the two, but they operate something like 99.99% simalarly. There isn't a brain of a black person and there is no such thing as a white person's brain.

    The way to tell if something is junk science is if people try to make something political, racial, or gender based conclusions based on studies of so called differences. Most of these types of studies find an extremelty slight statistical difference which could be based on sample selection and blow those difference way out of proportion. Most brain statistical differences consist of overlapping bell curves in which the vast and overwhelming data samples overlap.

    This is just bad science and I hope everyone who looks at this sensationalized nonsense would agree. The notion that liberals are somehow more open minded than conservatives is absurd. I was a liberal when I was young and I knew nothing, and being a liberal meant I was always right beings how I was so open minded. The only thing was that I wasn't open minded at all. Just more willing to believe the narrative that liberals created for themselves. Now I am conservative. Does that mean I am now less open minded? No, not at all. I at least now know what being a liberal is all about while I had no clue what conservatism was when I was liberal. Which is the more open minded state?

    If you believe this article is anything more than propaganda, then you need to get yourself into a science class, and you need to do it quickly.
     
  15. Whaler17

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    I read it and understood it, now answer my question. If I cannot understand it, it doesn't make sense. It's as simple as that!
     
  16. garyd

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    How large is the study? In what country was it conducted? What sort of controls were instituted. What was the methodology used to dfferentiate between liberals and conservatives?

    I tried to access the study. But thepage referenced in the article was blank. This could indicate many things including that the study has since been withdrawn. It could also indicate that there is something wrong with the link in the article.

    The last such study I saw had a sample size of ten whole people, all of them British. To attampt to daw meaningful conclusions from a sample size so small borders on the disengenuous.
     
  17. rexob715

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    But yet you asked a question, which shows confusion. In other words, if you understood, then why ask a question in which the answer helps you understand?

    Maybe it makes sense, you just can't understand it..............which goes to show that I was right; you never will. You can try again, but you will only fail again!
     
  18. Surfer Joe

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    Years ago, phrenology was popular as a "scientific" way of identifying who had criminal tendencies.
    I wouldn't take that stuff seriously.
     
  19. CMPancake

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    Is it really a dodge when you are the one attempting to go off topic to pull out a blatant insult against a political party?
     
  20. Ekeleferal

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    ---Research Brain Plasticity. The brain's physical structure can be changed throughout one's lifetime by the acquisition of new information and experiences. Thoughts can have physical ramifications on your brain. You, AM, should consider this in the context of the thread you started about indoctrination.

    ---Certain activities access different regions of the brain, and in that way you may train it, to an extent, to perform as you see fit. This is why it can be dangerous to insist on an identity, as your behaviors become narrow and you may cultivate a self fulfilling prophesy: "I think I am a conservative, therefore I am", or a "liberal", or a "libertarian" or whatever it is you fancy yourself.


    ---"Mind over matter" is real. Every person should be excited and alarmed about the potential impact of information and experiences that we have, and how this can be used to our advantage or to the advantage of those that desire to exploit you. The data is not conclusive in that we have the entire picture, but the evidence suggests that we should not underestimate the operation of our minds and the impact it has on our brains.
     
  21. TheBlackPearl

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    This is OLD news. In fact I have posted about this study on SEVERAL occasions myself. While I prefer the way it was presented in Psychology Today it's AMUSING to see the same conservatives who denied the study EMBRACING it whole heartedly when its spun to favor them. As if having overdeveloped fears and an inability to process complex issues could somehow be a good thing.

    There have, in fact, been MORE THAN 90 such studies done on this topic all of which point to the same results. Several of those studies have included MRI and EEG machines. They not only concur that conservative brains are prone to fear and struggle with complex issues, they also found that conservative brains are incapable of generating the proper amount of electrical energy in the region that is supposed to tell them when their beliefs directly conflict with reality staring them right in their faces. Another RE confirmed the results but indicated that there was no way to determine whether conservative brains function as they do because they are physically incapable of doing better or if their brains actually ATROPHIED from a lack of use. Again these are not insults but, rather, well documented peer reviewed MEDICAL SCIENCE.

    That too has been studied:

    MUCH more on this subject can be found @ http://www.criminalizeconservatism.com/2013/02/the-last-word-on-conservative-brain.html
     
  22. Whaler17

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    Oh Junior, you just have trouble communicating don't you. Another child left behind apparently.
     
  23. rexob715

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    Sorry that you think asking questions shows complete understanding..................which is kind of funny because if you fully understood, you would have no need to ask questions and get clarification for something that you already understand.

    Its rather simple and I certainly don't expect you to be able to understand. Your next post will prove me right or wrong!
     
  24. Marine1

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    I don't believe that study at all. ManyConservatives start out as Liberals and change their belief as they get older.

    I have also noticed that Liberals get too emotional and show that emotion in anger when things don't go their way, much more than Conservatives do.
     
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    1. So no Conservatives become Liberals? Want examples?

    2. Like Birthers when Obama won in 2008??? :)
     

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