americans (and others) opinion about germany?

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  1. Andelusion

    Andelusion New Member

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    Individually Germans seem to a decent people. I think that Germany was absolutely nutz to bailout Greece. You don't give money to people who are completely irresponsible with money. That teaches them they can blow money, and you'll bail them out.

    The only other thing in recent memory that boggled my mind, was shutting down all your nuclear power plants, only to buy electricity from France.... which generates power from Nuclear Power plants. So you are getting power from Nuclear either way, but now you are paying a high price, to make France rich. That doesn't make sense.

    Beyond that, I often point to Germany as examples the US should emulate. So there you go.
     
  2. MarkusS

    MarkusS New Member

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    Evrything you said was fine. I´m happy you liked it. :)
     
  3. MarkusS

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    You are wrong with the energy. The nuclear power plants had to be shut down. People here had 0 acceptance for them. And we export now more energy than ever before.

    http://www.thelocal.de/20121109/46079

    http://climatecrocks.com/2013/05/21/germany-continues-to-export-power-despite-nuclear-exit/
     
  4. Andelusion

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    Actually only 8 of 17 of them were shut down. The rest are still operating.

    That doesn't change the fact that you are importing electricity from France and Czech Republic, both of which use nuclear power, and are planning to increase the use of nuclear power. France generates 70% of it's power from Nuclear. And you are funding this, by buying power from France.

    Equally, 20% of Czech's power comes from Nuclear, and they have openly announced plans to build a 4 GigWatt Nuclear power plant. You are funding that by buying their power.

    And you are correct, you do export more power than last year. You have increased coal power plant production by a rather large 12%. Coal is the second cheapest energy generation in existence. You are under cutting other countries with really expensive power generation (renewable). So naturally exports of power have increased.

    But that doesn't change the fact that you are buying power from nuclear power stations across the boarder, when you could just run your own nuclear power plants. Why make others rich, when they are doing exactly what you were doing?
     
  5. MarkusS

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    Nuclear power has no acceptance in germany. Its impossible to operate here. You have nonstop mass demonstrations. Our nuclear waste has to be stored in russia and UK, because no area of germany wants it and people block evrything so nothing can be achieved. Its a simple fact, you simply can´t have nuclear power in germany, because it is not accepted. People are scared of it and no argument can go through that wall.
     
  6. smevins

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    I think the German dictates as far as the EU are concerned are too steep for a great many of the countries to really meet, which is why places like Greece have cooked their books to hide debt. I think your nation's industrial complex is second to none. I think you club scene can be way too alternative (read psycho) for me. I am not that fond of music that I hear out of Germany. It is a shame the Germans cannot honor their war dead the way others can without appearing to be Neo-Nazis. Maybe in a generation or two that will be less taboo a subject. Not a fan of your workers being able to dictate corporate policies like was seen recently with Microsoft wanting to close some stores. Beyond that, I really don't think that much about Germany one way or the other.
     
  7. Wizard From Oz

    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    Well lets see

    Germans love beer - check

    Germans love sport - check

    Germans love food - check

    Lots of pretty girls in Germany - check

    Germans cant play cricket - fail

    Seems to me Germany is pretty good place, with a little room for improvement before being considered in the top percentile of nations ;)
     
  8. Bluespade

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    I know the nuclear plant between Bamberg and Scwienfurt that was always working, I use to ride by it on the train all the time. But that was in 2005.
     
  9. Yooper

    Yooper New Member Past Donor

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    Has that always been the case? According to this site: In Germany (as of January 2013), nine nuclear power plants with an electric gross output of 12,696 MW are in operation. In 2012 they generated 100 billion kWh of electricity. The unit and energy availability amounted to 90 %.
     
  10. MarkusS

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    No, in 70th and 80th acceptance was quite high. That totally shifted later.
     
  11. OhZone

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    I don't really know much about Germany, but more about Germans.
    I'm half German, being 3rd generation born in USA. Loved my German side Family best. I lived in Milwaukee which was a German Town until we had a mass immigration from Poland.

    Germans are high in the intelligence category. They have or had a lot of Nobel Prize winners; at one time they were the majority there.
     
  12. Lil Mike

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    I was stationed in Germany for 2 1/2 years during the 80's too.

    My impressions of Germany and Germans are generally positive. Although not so overtly friendly like Americans, they were not rude and were usually more than willing to help if you were lost or whatever. The quality of their products, the cleanliness of the cities, or the orderliness and general respect for the law were top notch. They seemed to have a pretty decent work ethic as well (for Europe that is). Being stationed in Germany was considered pretty sweet duty and lots of military at the time were willing to extend their tours to stay there.

    Again, my impressions are a quarter century old and may not represent Germany as it is now. I'm sure it's a very different place since reunification.
     
  13. snooop

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    Like:

    1- German beer
    2- German household appliances (BOSCH)
    3- German automobile (love my AUDI)


    It's a great country with great people. You should be proud, Markus.
     
  14. smevins

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    If you live in the US, #3 is probably a product of Mexico.
     
  15. snooop

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    It is. But it is still far superior than (*)(*)(*)(*)ty American cars.

    The Japs models are too boring for me.
     
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    [video=youtube;fdXSSNBA9GY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdXSSNBA9GY[/video]
     
  17. banchie

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    Ahh, boy. what is wrong with cons? You stood by while Bush murdered, tortured and raped chained and detained women and children, just 5 years ago, and somehow you forgot? Somehow you can't examine yourself and wonder why you stood by and let those atrocity's occur in the name of America? I am really disappointed in you, not that it matters.
     
  18. banchie

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    That's sad that your people didn't get a better science lesson on nuclear power. I recommend you do some research of the latest nuclear technology being used for electric power plants, and share that knowledge whenever you can. I use Germany as the country that America should closely emmulate in several areas, and have some German blood in the game.
     
  19. Bluespade

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    Just like you're standing by Obama as he murderers innocent civilians with drones and hellfire missiles? Pot meet hypocrite, I guess.
     
  20. banchie

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    I am protesting, not standing by, so you are Wrong as usual. Are you prepared to gut the military by 95%, and bring all our troops home to US soil? Come on, tell me you agree!!!
     
  21. Bluespade

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    Gutting the military by 95% is retarded, but of course look who its coming from. Do they need to come home, of course. Then if you disagree with with Obama's Bush policy, then that separates you from the majority of your fellow liberal ilk who decry what Bush did, while they make excuses for what Obama is doing, then I'm wrong. Now stop jacking this thread.
     
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    Germans are clearly trying to rule Europe again by forcing EU countries to do what they are told. This time they just might be successful.
     
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    Yes. Reminds me of how religions manipulate the weak.
     
  24. Andelusion

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    Well, that's not going to stay that way, I can promise you. Nuclear power *IS* the magic fuel. There is no other source of power in existence, that can provide even a fraction of the power, at the same cost.

    At some point, people will have to choose between going back to burning wood, or having nuclear power. If we can assume that coal will be used up, and no other replacement is found.... then whether you like it or not, whether the people are scared or not, whether there is protest or not, nuclear power will be the defacto standard world wide. Now it's possible by then a safer type of nuclear will be made practical, but if not, you *WILL* have nuclear power. I PROMISE you will.

    There is no other alternative. You can burn coal until it's gone, but then you will have no other option but to either use nuclear, or buy from someone else using nuclear. That's all there is too it.
     
  25. Andelusion

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    Possibly, but there is no doubt from the quality of the engineering, it is a German product. German Engineering has always impressed me, and I can usually tell when it's German designed, but the quality of the design.
     

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