Return To The Good Old Days?

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  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    It would help if so much racism were not being expressed by key players on the Right. It is as simple as that.
     
  2. Lil Mike

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    Thanks Chris Matthews!
     
  3. Marine1

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    Where have you been? The third most used word in the Liberal vocabulary is racist, right next to (the) and (and).

    I didn't see a lot of racism in Ohio. I didn't see it in the Marines. I knew it was there down South, but not around the mixed neighborhood I lived in. Racism isn't what is causing all the murders in Chicago is it. They are killing many of their own there.

    Times were tough back in the 40's, 50's and 60's. We didn't have the laws to protect us in jobs, housing, etc. But many people were a lot happier than they are today. Those were the days when service was king. When doctors came to your house. When gas stations pumped your gas, cleaned your windshield, checked your oil and water. Most even had a service center to fix your car if something was wrong with it. If you bought a pair of pants, or a suit at Sears or etc. the fitted it for no charge. Most stores if you bought something, they gave you S&H Green stamps that you put in a book and when you had enough books, you cashed them in for merchandise from their catalogue. I got my first ball glove that way. Mom could get dishes, or towels from buying certain detergents. They packed them inside. Cereals offered you prizes inside the box. I got a decoder ring from one of them and bought one inch of Alaskan property with every coupon I sent in. It cost 15 cents to go to the movies and you got to see two shows, a news reel, 4-5 cartoons and a 15 min. series, like the Green Hornet, Superman, etc. But you had to come back the next week to see how they got out of the jam they were in at the end. Mom and Dad really couldn't afford to send 6 kids to the movies, but it got rid of us for about 5 hours so to them it was worth it to get a break.

    None of us around the neighborhood could afford a new car, or more than one used one. But it was so much fun decking them out with barning knobs, fender skirts, curb feelers and jacking up the front to make them look cool and fast.

    We didn't have video games. But we could go to the music store, check out 3-4 records at a time, go into the private booths and listen to them for hours.

    Everyone would meet on the weekends at the car hoops where we got together and compared cars and met girls.

    We spent a lot of time outdoors playing ball, cowboys and Indians. We made or own bows and arrows and sling shots out of tree limbs and old inner tubes. Had a competition on who could hit the target the closes. Dad use to take us out to the woods and we shot at tin cans off a sump he brought along. We didn't have cell phones, but two tin cans and a long string tied to a hole in the cans worked pretty good.

    At night we gathered around the radio and listened to Superman, the Green Hornet, Amus and Andy and etc. We couldn't see what they were doing, but we knew ever step they made. We could see it in our mind as clear as day.

    Yes, some like to point out all the bad stuff back then. But there was plenty of good stuff I miss even today. Times were tough, mostly because families were big and the mom stayed home and watched the kids and kept house. But I swear, we were a lot happier than many kids are today and we didn't need drugs to make us happy. We didn't need bike locks or car alarms to protect our property. We didn't have multiple locks on the doors to keep us safe. People respected other people's property. Mom could send us off to school and not worry of school shootings or someone grabbing us down the street by ourselves. Yes, I would go back to those times in a minute.
     
  4. Johnny-C

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    Whatever, Lil Mike.
     
  5. Lil Mike

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    It's hard to top whatever, but who are some of these "key players?"
     
  6. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    Conservatives always want to either stay where we are or return to the good old days.

    In case none of you noticed, in the grand scheme of things civilization has always gotten better over time. And our growth took off on turbo during the 20th century. Would I want to live 60 years ago? Seeing what things are like now? Hell no I wouldn't.

    There's a reason it's called progress.
     
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    The Good Old Day's is a relative term and depends upon who you were and what religion and race you were.

    I have heard many people say...Man back in the 1950's....the Good Old Day's....things were much better.

    Better for who?

    Certainly better for White Religious Males.

    Not so good if you were Black or a Non-Christian.

    Certainly AWFUL if you happened to be a scientist working on Genetics.

    If you were a woman you had better have my pipe, slippers and dinner ready when I got home...to a clean house.

    GOD help you if you were gay.

    And of course anyone in those day's who might have a mind of their own and think for themselves was endangered of being put in a Sanitarium for acting CRAZY for not conforming.

    AboveAlpha
     
  8. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    No need to top anything, Lil Mike.

    Enjoy my 'ignore' list.

    Regards.
     
  9. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Whenever anyone puts me on an ignore list because they've argued themselves into a corner, and are unable to handle simple, logical questions, than I take that as a compliment.

    So, thank you very much!
     
  10. Unifier

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    Good grief, this is ignorant!

    Most of us simply want a return to a culture where kids get to grow up in a family with two parents in the home. That shouldn't be a tall order. And you'd be amazed at how many societal problems this actually solves. But the left wing clings to all of the things that have ruined that institution; the sexual revolution, the drug culture, and the welfare state. And no one has been hit harder by this than the black community. Kids from single parent families are exponentially more likely to go to prison. The drug problem in the inner cities is undeniable. And illegitimacy rates have skyrocketed to pandemic levels hooking single mothers on welfare and virtually guaranteeing that they will remain in poverty indefinitely. In trying to help black people, your self-righteous ignorance has doomed them to an endless cycle of crime, poverty, and self-destruction. How's your utopia working out for you, liberals? Was it everything you hoped it would be?
     
  11. Unifier

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    This is an ignorant modern day interpretation of vintage standards. Women were a protected class at the time. Not an oppressed class. It wasn't until feminism taught them to view love as control that they became angry about what had previously been relatively fulfilling. They didn't "bring their husband their pipe and slippers" out of fear. They did it because they loved their husband and wanted to do something nice for him. They didn't clean the house out of fear of repercussions. They did it to thank their husband for going out and working hard everyday to provide a good life and financial stability for his wife and family. Which he did because he loved them in return. He had an internal duty to take care of the people he loved, and so he often sacrificed his own happiness to provide for them everything they needed. Because people loved each other more then than they do today. There is almost no love at all in the modern era. Only usership. People don't even understand what a deep bond is anymore. They don't do anything nice for anyone anymore purely because they care about person. It's always about looking for a tradeoff. "What can I get by doing this? And if I don't get anything in return, then I'm not doing it."

    Welcome to the post-feminist world.



    Oh, you mean like today?

    [video=youtube;c2jT74IhYYY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2jT74IhYYY[/video]
     
  12. Brtblutwo

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    Yes, a return to yesteryear when parents stayed together for the "sake of the children." Producing another dysfunctional generation called the "baby boomers."

    The great days when dad smacked mom around in front of the kids, and she was forced to endure this abuse because it was her duty to stay at home, take care of the family, and develop no employable skills.

    The conservatives and neoconservatives do indeed want to return to the good old days, when white men were men and everyone else was secondary.
     
  13. Lil Mike

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    I'm curious. Who exactly is advocating for Dad to smack mom in front of the kids? Is this some more of those mysterious "key players on the right?"
     
  14. unrealist42

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    All the same crap that conservatives complain about today was going on in the good old days, from homosexuals and lesbians to pedophile preists and serial killers and everyone knew it. The only difference is that it was all hushed up and pushed under the rug but now it is daily news.
    I am not really sure what they want, do they want it all just pushed back under the rug, which is completely impossible, or what?
     
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    Ya know, the problem is other countries who have more established liberal government than US are also doing much better than US, and it's pretty clear we could solve and overcome many of the things you listed IF we didn't have to fight with the conservatives over it every step of the way. If you like all those "family values" you mention in your government so much, why don't you go to a country that is more like the Utopia you want instead? They are already established. The truth is, everything that has made this country livable for you has come from a left wing liberal agenda, and no conservative would actually want to live in a country dominated by conservative values.

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    Also, if you want to bash welfare as a liberal failure, you should address the top European spenders on what they spend for welfare before saying it has no positive impact on the economy.

    On top of the spending list are often the Nordic countries, joined by West European countries like France and Belgium. The top countries usually spend around 25 to 30 percent of their Gross Domestic Product (GDP) on welfare. According to the OECD data from 2012 puts France on top with 32.1% of GDP spent on welfare. This expenditure takes health care, unemployment, old age (pensions) and education into account. But top countries don’t only spend in their budgets. The Nordic countries, which are the model students of the welfare state, have all had to deal with hard economic times at the end of the 80s and start of the 90s. All Nordic countries have gone through debt reduction whilst continuing to invest in welfare spending. As a good example Sweden reduced its national debt from 84% in 1996 of GDP to 49% in 2011.

    Surprisingly a small amount of welfare spending in the top spending countries is aimed for unemployment benefits. One of the reasons is that these top countries often have good quality state-funded education systems. Finland, one of the leading country’s in education standards according to Pisa tests, spends only about 2% of their welfare spending on unemployment. Education opportunities are free and open for all regardless of background even at university level and people don’t get stuck to their teeth with student loans and fees.

    It should be noted that the top 5 countries who spend the most on welfare also have the lowest rates of unemployment in the world! The general conservative idea that the more people who live on welfare, the less people are willing to work just does NOT hold water and is factually untrue, as I would expect from people who can't handle facts. Namely conservatives.

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    Screw the money, comfort of living, tax rates; the people that I knew and cared about were alive and well; that's the good days for me.
     
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    It must be amusing for all non americans to watch the democrats and republicans insult each others ideologies. Other than a few disagreements over social issues your two parties are nearly identical.
    But you just don't see that because you are too busy insulting each other.

    Get a clue. Both of your sides are the bad guys.
     
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    Homophobic bigot.
     
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    Obama is just as much white as George Zimmerman.

    I know that grinds your gears. I won't allow your racist ass to spread your propaganda.
     
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    Why aren't you complaining about the Obama administration paying female staffers less than their male counterparts?
     
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    Be honest, the main reason is technology.
     
  23. Glock

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    First, you don't see me complaining about anything. You must mistake me showing the hypocrisy of some posters here as complaining. That was your mistake.

    Second, if one is going to make a statement like "conservatives place women on pedestals", I should hope you at least have ONE supporting argument to back up your claim.
     
  24. Unifier

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    And you're just as ignorant as the other guy. Not only do you not understand what conservatism is, but evidently, you don't even understand what liberalism is. Do you realize that every hardship faced by black people in this country has been the result of liberal policies? Even today. You guys are too stuck on your high horse to recognize that you are not helping these people at all but are continuously (*)(*)(*)(*)ing them in the ass harder and harder with every passing generation. And you're slowly bringing everyone else down to the same level.

    Conversely, we would have no United States without conservative principles. They built the damn country. Just something to consider.
     
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    True, but Pres. Obama never murdered an unarmed black teenager because he thought he looked "suspicious".



    LOL, thats funny coming from a racist that has been dug up from the past. I see internet service has been restored on the compound.
     

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