Is the belief that homosexuality is sinful homophobic ?

You tell me why you think one aberrant "relationship" is more worthy than the others.

 

That's right.

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Why is opposite-sex non incest marriage more worthy than opposite-sex incest marriage?

 

I don't care...........

 

I get it fine. Your version of "tolerance" is just that, "we won't beat you up just on the suspicion you're gay" However, we reserve the right to deny the right to live with who you want to and legally declare that you are doing so to the world.

I DO agree with you that we shouldn't subsidize or privilege married people, and that's HETEROSEXUAL married people, as well as homosexual. However, that's a completely separate issue

 

Maybe if you're gay.

 

History actually shows us that there was religious tolerance under Islam. Non-muslims were allowed to keep their faith and be judged by their own laws, but they had to endure some jizya taxes (and they were exempt from some muslim-only taxes too) and perhaps devshirme (paying a tribute of boys to be raised as muslims) and symbolic restrictions, like not being allowed to ride horses, or to not have their church be more taller than the mosque etc.

While not very tolerant by todays standards, it was exceptionally tolerant in the middle ages, especially compared to the non-existant tolerance in the byzantine empire and christian europe.

I'm thinking you have some misconceptions about muslims and their history.

 

At that same exact time, the people of northern Europe were being lined up and either baptised or beheaded, on mass figuratevly and on occassion literally. However, the atrocities committed by those in the name of Mohammad were in keeping with Mohammad's nature and example the atorcities committed in the Name of Jesus were not.

Mohammad would never tolerate mutual volition with infedels. Jesus died for them.

 

No misconceptions here, actually. Beginning with Mohammad, Muslims have always waged a Holy War against the infidel (be it atheists, pagans, Christians, Jews or heretics). Mecca was his and Islam's first conquered territory (in 630 AD - he began his religious crusade in 622), and he only did so, with the help of fellow Muslims from Medina, because the Meccans would not convert.

What's mistaken is that of the religious "intolerance" of Christian Europe (I assume you're talking about the Crusades), which was in response to a rapidly expanding militant Islamic Caliphate, resulting in the conquering of many major Christian states, such as Palestine, Egypt and Syria... later, North Africa (Christian), Spain (Christian) and the list goes on. Many Christians were murdered by the vicious armies of Mohammad's successors and many Christian states were lost. The Crusades didn't even begin, until Constantinople requested aid by the Western Christian states. Hollywood (and liberal university professors), of course, tells a different story.

Islam is the only religion, where its holy book professes that true believers conquer unbelievers, who will not convert, in Jihad.

 

Why are adulterers allowed "benefits"? After 1 marriage there should be no more ability to marry and get another set of "benefits".

 

Seems like it may be whose version of history books one reads. In regards to the crusades.

 

Yep, there's a factual one and a politically correct, apologetic, anti-Christian one. I prefer the former.

 

LGBTIQWERTY,formerly known as gay and lesbian ,do you like it?

LGBTIQWERTY ?

 

We all prefer the factual one, but we all know, facts are dependent on who's doing the fact finding and the biases of said finders.

 

[video=youtube;sNJmfuEWR8w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNJmfuEWR8w[/video]

 

No it is about me liking it.

 

Homophobia is a word stolen by those who support gays. They had to have a way to shame those who do not react positively to an unnatural act. Funny how language is used as a weapon to shame people for no good reason.

 

Because they realized that was just stupid.

As is....

It is funny to see how many definitions they can come up with, to apply some sort of label on people who don't agree with them, isn't it.

"Working definition, by gays".... is more correct.

There are only two groups of people on the planet who place any meaning whatsoever in the word "homophobia" and that is the gays... and those that are struggling with it.

To everyone else... it is one of the most over-used, and incorrectly-used words in the English language and has lost all meaning.

It's become nothing more than the response of the insecure homosexual who has nothing else to counter with (we see it here all the time).

 

"everyone must adhere" ?
Eh, some people would argue on that side, so I'll give you that one.
Most Christians don't think that way though.

And as far as "bad thing".... the Bible says it is.
So it is.

Wrong. It's that it doesn't matter if it's offensive.
If their belief system offends you, that's clearly your problem... not theirs.

Bingo. Why should it count ?

Not only can your beliefs not possibly offend me... I couldn't care less what they are.

(You people should consider living with that mindset).

It's more than "apparently".... it's Gospel.

Any Christian who worries more about offending people than offending God, is not reading the Bible.
Just because we are commanded to love thy neighbor, doesn't mean we are to bend over for them and care more about what they think than what God thinks. It's really not that hard to understand, is it ?

I believe in God, and I believe in the Bible, and your whiny offense to that is irrelevant in my life.

If the Bible says something is wrong.... then it is wrong.

The world changes..... the Bible doesn't.
So the gays will never defeat the Christian belief... ever.
Romans 8:31 and all that....

Their (your) hatred toward Christians is a huge waste of energy and time.
Better to protest a fast food restaurant or a baker who won't make you a cake, yes ?

At least that'll get the press coverage that is craved.

 

"Aversion" is just a strong dislike, and is completely Biblical.

Discrimination is not, and most Christians would never do so.

The aversion is to the sin... not the sinner.

People like Westboro Baptist, etc... are just f'd in the head... and completely wrong.

 

I am sorry that you don't like the fact that bigotry against homosexuals is no longer social acceptable. But society moves forward, you should join us.

 

Very well said, and I agree with all except for one thing.
Homosexuality is very clearly discussed in the New Testament too.

Anyway, you're right that Biblical Christian teaching does not condone discrimination, mistreatment, hatred or condemnation of sinners.... just the sin.

Unfortunately people get irrationally defensive and can't separate the two.
Like a liar crying that he is "hated" just because someone says lying is a sin.

 

I'm not sure how any "phobia" plays a part in that.
The definition of "fear" is apparently different than it used to be.

But... you are correct that homosexual-fornication is no worse than heterosexual-fornication.

 

"We" = a very small, gay portion of society.

It is Biblical.. not phobic.

It's only "phobic" to those who don't like that reality, and need to assign some denigrating label to it.

Hmm.. interesting.

Christianity was never considered a mental disorder by the American Psychiatric Association, the World Health Organization, or the US Department of Defense, among others.

Guess what was.

ouch.

You clearly have no understanding of a stable, Biblical belief system. They don't change.
A sin a thousand years ago, is still a sin today.

God doesn't cave.


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Yes ,gay and lesbian POLITICS is an unnatural act of human thinking ,its called Post-modernist ,Liberal capitalist Twaddle. Gobbly goog of the highest order.

As far as Homosexuality ,well ,that is just as much a Natural act of Human sexuality ,and other Species as any other.

You are right on the money as far as the attempt of the LGBTIQWERTY ,Using "Homophobia " , a non-Word devoid of any meaning other then to attack those who criticise them in any form .They borrowed the method from the Zionists and their use of "anti-Semitism ,"but What can one expect from Fascistic movements ,Like Zionism and the LGBTIQWERTY.

Separatist and Reactionary as they Both are .Oh and their Discrimination and "oppression " is so gay in its content its not funny.

Indeed the LGBTIQWERTY , is a Walking Provocation to Science ,and the Homosexual and Bisexual Community. Any feminist fascist Lesbians care to comment ,about man hate ,and male genocide that they advocate?

 

"Tolerance is the virtue of the man without conviction".

Gilbert K. Chesterton


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