Comments on the chosen people (the Jews) by celebrities

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    Winston S. Churchill: "Some people like the Jews, and some do not. But no thoughtful man can deny the fact that they are, beyond any question, the most formidable and most remarkable race which has appeared in the world.

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    John F. Kennedy: Israel was not created in order to disappear- Israel will endure and flourish. It is the child of hope and the home of the brave. It can neither be broken by adversity nor demoralized by success. It carries the shield of democracy and it honors the sword of freedom.

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    David Ben Gurion: "In Israel , in order to be a realist, you must believe in miracles."

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    Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe: "Energy is the basis of everything. Every Jew, no matter how insignificant, is engaged in some decisive and immediate pursuit of a goal... It is the most perpetual people of the earth..."

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    John Adams: "I will insist the Hebrews have [contributed] more to civilize men than any other nation. If I was an atheist and believed in blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations... They are the most glorious nation that ever inhabited this Earth. The Romans and their empire were but a bubble in comparison to the Jews."

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    Leo Tolstoy: "What is the Jew?...What kind of unique creature is this whom all the rulers of all the nations of the world have disgraced and crushed and expelled and destroyed; persecuted, burned and drowned, and who, despite their anger and their fury, continues to live and to flourish. What is this Jew whom they have never succeeded in enticing with all the enticements in the world, whose oppressors and persecutors only suggested that he deny (and disown) his religion and cast aside the faithfulness of his ancestors?! The Jew - is the symbol of eternity. ... He is the one who for so long had guarded the prophetic message and transmitted it to all mankind. A people such as this can never disappear. The Jew is eternal. He is the embodiment of eternity."

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    Eric Hofer: "The Jews are a peculiar people: Things permitted to other nations are forbidden to the Jews. Other nations drive out thousands, even millions of people, and there is no refugee problem. Russia did it. Poland and Czechoslovakia did it.Turkey threw out a million Greeks and Algeria a million Frenchmen. Indonesia threw out heaven knows how many Chinese--and no one says a word about refugees. But in the case of Israel , the displaced Arabs have become eternal refugees. Everyone insists that Israel must take back every single Arab. Arnold Toynbee calls the displacement of the Arabs an atrocity greater than any committed by the Nazis. Other nations when victorious on the battlefield dictate peace terms. But when Israel is victorious it must sue for peace. Everyone expects the Jews to be the only real Christians in this world."

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    Mark Twain: "...If statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of stardust lost in the blaze of the Milky way. Properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his commercial importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the world's list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are also away out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world, in all the ages; and had done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused for it.

    The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed; and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other people have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?"
     
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    Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:32 pm Post subject: Dry Bones January 2014
    http://drybonesblog.blogspot.com/2014_01_01_archive.html
     
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    Hard to argue with so much evidential history.
    There was a scene in Young Winston, where Lord Randolph has a garden party and some politic comes up to him and says, "None of your Jewish friends . . ." to which Lord Randolph was shown to say, "No I didn't think it quite fair, you know how easily bored they get".

    I went to U.C.S.F. Medical school in the early seventies. And the pathology texts are littered with "Jewish Diseases", Ashkenazi propensities. Yet Jewish students denied we were a genome.
    Today 23andMe tells me I am over 90% Ashkenazi.
    From West Virginia it sounds funny for the hillbilly to say, "We don't believe in no outbreeding", but for the Jewish nation that is obviously, genomically the case.

    One outstanding PBS special is called "Hollywoodism". Highly recommended. How these early Hollywood studio owners, why Hollywood - far away from anti Semite Thomas Edison, how they were born within a few hundred miles of one another in old Russia and developed the American character of "truth, justice, and the American way" embedded in their productions. Frank Capra helped too.
    Remember, old time Protestant Ethic would say if you were poor and starving, you somehow must deserve it.
    For a good time, Search "Ashkenazi Hollywood" and compare to "half Ashkenazi Hollywood" the latter includes Scarlett Johanson and Harrison Ford. The halves includes over half the recent "Black" stars. Conceptions of the late 60's and 70's.

    I grew up with Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. The Fourth of July and Halloween. T'giving too.
    My Grandparents left "religion" circa 1900.
    Yet I feel Jewish. I notice "we" have a conscience more than most that keep us in "moral" line.
    The Jewish role in American charities and charity hospitals from a time when their was no government safety net.
    The first hand transplant in :flagus: took place at Jewish Hospital Knoxville. How many Jews live in Knoxville?
    Our "intelligence" works differently from the gentile. Maybe just more prone to challenge the status quo.
    I have observed this over years as an outside, insider. And discussed it at length with friends who have all or traces of Jew Blood. And I have noticed those without the bloodline, do not get it. There is something more automatic about it.


    BTW Mark Twain wrote an essay, "Concerning the Jew", after touring Europe, observing the Austio-Hungarian parliament where two adversaries called each other "Jew" on the parliament floor although neither was.

    In conclusion: Yes we are a race. Beware. :blankstare:
    No civilization, empire or government that harassed Jews has benefited throughout history.
    Those that offer sanctuary have benefited from their relationship.


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    and super banker yellen is a benefit to our federal reserve system?
    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/156146/yellen-at-the-fed
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/07/business/economy/Yellen-Senate-Vote.html?_r=0
     
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    Hey, I ain't happy about Yellen. She is going to out Bernanke, Bernanke with more Fed benefits to the uber rich.
    What makes you think Jewish folks all agree. Ever see Rabbis, discuss?
    A Jewish recovery would be a truly Progressive program like giving people a debit card to spend $400 on American made goods or services within a few months. Imagine how that would drive the economy from the bottom , up.
    Better than investing the recovery 100% in Wall St.

    Personally, I have had faith in no Fed Chairman since Greenspan.
    And his later repudiation of his approach is suspect to this conspiracist. Like, shut up about the present Fed program or else.

    Did I miss your point ?

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    in no way shape or form are jews a "race", ala the outmoded concepts of racial distiniction based on superficial external characteristics.
    Unless of course you believe that all jews have big noses, flappy ears, slighly hunched shoulders and fat lips - IOW its ludicrous nonsensical "belief" with only a generalized statiscal correlation to actual genetic science.

    an ashkenazi jew's personal genome is as different from a sepharidic jew as its different from a middle eastern jew as its different from an ethiopian jew as it is different from a chinese jew.

    get over yourself.
     
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    The genome work demonstrates you are not correct.
    It is apparent physical features are very little of the genome and any person with four Jewish grandparents is most likely my Third Cousin, if not closer - although the Persians tend to be more like Fourth cousins.
    More genome similarities exists between Jewish populations and persons than Jews and their host populations.

    Science Magazine. About 5 years ago.
    Not Science Digest or pablumized Science type magazines. Hardcore, "Science".



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    Today the chosen people are Arabs.
    Allah puts them to a test, thy fail so he kills them. ( by their own hands )
     
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    Nothing about world news. Please moderate this thread.
     
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    So HBendor has descended to boasting about Jews and trying to somehow label it "World News". WTF!?
     
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    A world news or not, I find this brilliant and absolutely correct:

    "Eric Hofer: "The Jews are a peculiar people: Things permitted to other nations are forbidden to the Jews. Other nations drive out thousands, even millions of people, and there is no refugee problem. Russia did it. Poland and Czechoslovakia did it.Turkey threw out a million Greeks and Algeria a million Frenchmen. Indonesia threw out heaven knows how many Chinese--and no one says a word about refugees. But in the case of Israel , the displaced Arabs have become eternal refugees. Everyone insists that Israel must take back every single Arab. Arnold Toynbee calls the displacement of the Arabs an atrocity greater than any committed by the Nazis. Other nations when victorious on the battlefield dictate peace terms. But when Israel is victorious it must sue for peace. Everyone expects the Jews to be the only real Christians in this world."
     
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    The Jews were Chosen by God to follow his commandments. In return God gives them the land of Canaan.
     
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    Just to counter the inane pro Arab stance some Arab lovers keep on defaming Jews pretentiously.
     
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    not about to argue.

    jews are not a race. don't refer to some article in science mag to "prove" your point and not provide a link. And

    Seems a lot of jews don't agree with you, but do agree with me.

    I know .. but, but, but it says so in Legacy: A gentic history of the jewish people by Ostrer!

    well, you'd be right in that it was he and his collegues attempted to prove in that book, but amazingly enough
    the Council for Responsible Genetics thinks his overreaching research conclusions are "problematic at best".
    It includes some interesting science about why his conclusions are overreaching.

    http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/genewatch/GeneWatchPage.aspx?pageId=431

    so if I am wrong, then it seems the majority of jews are wrong and the majority of geneticists are wrong.

    And if you are right, so is David Duke and all his neo=nazi friends.


    Off topic - what point are you trying to make with No Canada?
     
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    See above.
    A lot of Jews don't agree with . . . anything amongst themselves.

    Referencing a nation or a race, I reference a "genome", more isolated then most "nation states".
    It might be interesting to pare down your references to ones that were expressed after the genome work.

    Here is your reference. Please be so kind as to read it.
    http://news.sciencemag.org/2012/08/roots-jewishness
    <edit>
    Recent studies have turned to DNA for answers. In 2010, human geneticist Harry Ostrer of the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City and colleagues found that three of the major Jewish groups—the Middle Eastern, Sephardic, and Ashkenazi Jews—share a genetic connection going back more than 2000 years, and are more closely related to each other than to nearby non-Jewish groups. Genetic ties within each of the groups were even closer, about the equivalent of fourth or fifth cousins. But that study didn't include North African Jews, who represent the world's second largest Jewish population, or any groups whose claim to Jewishness has been controversial, such as Ethiopian Jews.
    <edit>
    But, please, check the link and read the whole article.

    As much as I admire Abba Eban for a great U.N. speech over the Six Day War and "Heritage: Civilzation and the Jews",
    he got it wrong too.


    Moi :oldman:
    The ref. search went very fast. Really. If it was obscure I would not suggest the reader look.


    Jonsa gives no location.
    Could he be :flagcanada: or a sympathizer ?


     
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    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v06/v06p389_John.html

    http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/131008/ncomms3543/full/ncomms3543.html
     
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    Nicely put.
     
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