Israel, be ready for john kerry

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  1. Tommy Palven

    Tommy Palven Active Member Past Donor

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    According to the Wikipedia article below, "Between 2001 and 2007 more than 10,000 Israeli settlements were built while 91 permits were issued for Palestinian construction, and 1663 Palestinian structures were destroyed,"
    and that most of the world, with the notable exception of the Israeli government, find these activities illegal.
    http://www.ask.com/wiki/Israeli_settlement?o=2800&qsrc=999&ad=doubleDown&an=apn&ap=ask.com
     
  2. simsim50

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    Administration and local government West Bank

    Yamit in the Sinai, between 1960 and 1970, evacuated by Israel in 1982
    Neve Dekalim, Gaza Strip, evacuated by Israel in 2005

    The Israeli settlements in the West Bank make up what Israel calls the Judea and Samaria Area. Since December 2007, approval by both the Israeli Prime Minister and Israeli Defense Minister of all settlement activities (including planning) in the West Bank is required.[59] Authority for planning and construction is held by the Israel Defense Forces Civil Administration. { that means security is taken in consideration .. and of-course if palestinians want to spitefully build too close ..(and they do it intentionally ).. to settlement its denied )



    The Yesha Council (Hebrew: מועצת יש"ע‎, Moatzat Yesha, a Hebrew acronym for Judea, Samaria and Gaza) is the umbrella organization of municipal councils in the West Bank.

    The actual buildings of the Israeli settlements cover only 1 percent of the West Bank, but their jurisdiction and their regional councils extend to about 42 percent of the West Bank, according to the Israeli NGO B'Tselem.( A bunch of stupid jewish shameless people who get a ton of money from europe to work against their country and people.. and want this country to cease being a jewish country ...resulting a total overpowering of arabs and soon this this country will be called ..not israel ..but maybe arba-il .. we will never let that happen ..and as such they want this country to be arab they can go to 52 arab countries and we will pay for their departure) Yesha Council chairman Dani Dayan disputes the figures and claims that the settlements only control 9.2 percent of the West Bank.[60]

    Between 2001 and 2007 more than 10,000 Israeli settlement units were built, while 91 permits were issued for Palestinian construction, and 1,663 Palestinian structures were demolished in Area C.[61]

    Under the Oslo Accords, the West Bank was divided into three separate parts designated as Area A, Area B and Area C. Leaving aside the position of East Jerusalem, all of the settlements are in Area C . Area C which comprises about 60% of the West Bank.

    So u see your lies and half truth about 91 permits do not hold water !!!
    And even if area c is 60% in size .. the settlements are only maybe 5-6 persent ( 9.2 percent of the 100 % of West Bank jerusalem included)
     
  3. simsim50

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    " It was "Western leftists" under Tony Blair's government who finally persuaded the IRA to come to the negotiating table and talk. Peace in Northern Ireland ensued following the Good Friday Agreement. Previously under the hard-right government of Margaret "we don't talk to terrorists" Thatcher the bombings continued unabated.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sta...ood_friday.stm "

    HMMM... I DONT REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED AT THOSE TALKS !!!
    DID GREAT BRITAIN GIVE I CENTIMETER OF OCCUPIED NORTH IRELAND ?

    I HOPE BY SOME MIRACLE SHE WAKE UP ALIVE AND BE THE NEW PRICIDENT OF ISRAEL AND LET US SEE IF SHE DOES THE SAME WITH OUR " PEACE " TALK TO OUR PALESTINIAN TERRORISTS !!!


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  4. pessimist

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    I just wonder how did you manage to skip a word from the quote?

    "Between 2001 and 2007 more than 10,000 Israeli settlement units were built, while 91 permits were issued for Palestinian construction, and 1,663 Palestinian structures were demolished in Area C"
     
  5. Tommy Palven

    Tommy Palven Active Member Past Donor

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    Those are not my lies (and I know nothing about a "PLO syllabus, " HBendor). Your issue here is with Wikipedia.
     
  6. simsim50

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    " Those are not my lies (and I know nothing about a "PLO syllabus, " HBendor). Your issue here is with Wikipedia. "

    Hmmm.. U mean u can quote any stupid lies or half truth from Wikipedia without checking it out in more places .. and then we should deal with it .
    U KNOW THAT IT WAS NOT GOD WHO WROTE WIKIPEDIA..RIGHT ?..

    I use wikipedia too ... but not to attack anybody unless i am sure with the written in there and if there is a further debate i am 1 step ahead ready for further debate !
     
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    YEP units...and he also " missed " this !!!
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    The neutrality of this article is disputed. Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved. (December 2013)
     
  8. Tommy Palven

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    "Ten thousand settlements" is a ridiculous number and an obvious error. And Wiki, although a lot better than I am, still isn't perfect.

    In 2006, in George Bush and Condoleezza Rice's highly acclaimed election between Hamas and Fatah, Hamas won a resounding victory in Gaza and also won a majority of parliamentary seats in the West Bank. Afterwards, the Hamas victors were blocked from taking their seats in parliament. They were able to forcibly take their seats in Gaza, but some of the Hamas election winners were arrested by the Israelis in the West Bank, and with the help of the US the victors were unable to be seated. This was the way Wiki reported the results at the time, but the Associated Press was soon reporting, and still reports to this day, that Hamas initiated a forcible coup in Gaza, and Wiki has also retreated from it's original story, and reports it this way, below.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah–Hamas_conflict

    So you just keep disputing the truth and maybe you'll get the results in the Israeli settlements argument that you want.
     
  9. simsim50

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    " According to one Palestinian rights group, more than 600 Palestinians were killed in fighting from January 2006 to May 2007.[8] A serious escalation in the violence was marked by the 2006 Rimal neighborhood shootings "

    HAMAS SIMPLY MURDERED ALL OPPSITION FROM FATAH ....THATS IT !!! :gun:

    I will tell u something.
    ALLLLLLLLLLLLL this talk about Palestinian / arabs in one side and Democracy ./.election on other side is simply DELUSIONAL :wall: OR JOKING !
    NO SUCH THING in arab world ..U SIMPLY CANNOT UTTER THAT IN A SAME SENTENCE !!!
    U can see it the midsdle eat syria lebanon egypt iraq iran saudia ..etc..etc:wall:
    Here is another example showing democracy will not last
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=338931

    Do u know in black sepot how many palestinians were killed in jordan by king hussien ? NONE
    Do u know what kind of resolutions and condemnation against hussien got from un ? NONE

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_Jordan
    "Arafat later claimed that the Jordanian army killed between 10,000 and 25,000 Palestinians, "
    We sure can learn from him a thing or two about how to deal with terror !!!
     
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    " According to one Palestinian rights group, more than 600 Palestinians were killed in fighting from January 2006 to May 2007.[8] A serious escalation in the violence was marked by the 2006 Rimal neighborhood shootings "

    HAMAS SIMPLY MURDERED ALL OPPSITION FROM FATAH ....THATS IT !!! :gun:

    I will tell u something.
    ALLLLLLLLLLLLL this talk about Palestinian / arabs in one side and Democracy ./.election on other side is simply DELUSIONAL :wall: OR JOKING !
    NO SUCH THING in arab world ..U SIMPLY CANNOT UTTER THAT IN A SAME SENTENCE !!!
    U can see it the midsdle eat syria lebanon egypt iraq iran saudia ..etc..etc:wall:
     
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    Lebanon is a democracy.
     

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