Obama the Tyrant: Marijuana is no worse than Alcohol

Marijuana IS no worse than alcohol, and since I am familiar with both, I'd say alcohol is much worse that marijuana. Regardless, whether one is worse than the other does NOT depend of the wishes of the American public.

Btw, the marijuana laws were started by bigoted Texans who needed a law to deport Mexicans back in the 20s and 30s. The laws had nothing to do with the merits of marijuana.

Hope that helps.

 

As a person who has experience with both....I absolutely disagree. Drinking acohol to get drunk is most definately harmful. But that isn't the true positive purpose of alcohol...its drunk with dinner, food or night cap. And its gone from the system hours later.

Smoking marijuana is smoking to get "drunk" so to speak. To get high. That's its purpose. And its not gone from your system for days. And it does affect judgement, makes people lethargic and in my opinion...adversely affects the brain at least for a lengthy period of time. If alcohol's sole purpose was to obliterate someone's thinking...then it would fit in the same catagory. But it isn't. If we smoked marijuanna to the same extent the French drink wine----we'd be a nation of nutso's.

 

Haha. What? Fairly certain the United States has a secular constitution. It's surely one of the great ironies of your nation that those who cry the loudest about the country drifting away from it's roots are Christians who presumably want the 10 Commandments engraved on public buildings.

 

If you actually read the New Yorker interview, Obama actually backtracked on his first comments. The dangerous part, he said, has to do more with the "impact on the individual consumer." And he is more concerned about what he believes is the disproportionate arrests and incarcerations for minorities. As in almost everything else he does, he makes it about race and class. He actually made this stupid comment in the interview: “Middle-class kids don’t get locked up for smoking pot, and poor kids do.” So.....I guess he thinks a cop asks the person he stops...."Are you middle class or poor?" Too funny.....and actually quite stupid. I think he needs to watch "Cops" a few times; he'll see that plenty of middle-class kids get locked up too. He's bought in to the stereotyping.....in fact, he helps to create it!!!

Below is the part in the interview where he further explains what he meant by "less dangerous."

"Less dangerous, he said, “in terms of its impact on the individual consumer. It’s not something I encourage, and I’ve told my daughters I think it’s a bad idea, a waste of time, not very healthy.” What clearly does trouble him is the radically disproportionate arrests and incarcerations for marijuana among minorities. “Middle-class kids don’t get locked up for smoking pot, and poor kids do,” he said. “And African-American kids and Latino kids are more likely to be poor and less likely to have the resources and the support to avoid unduly harsh penalties.” But, he said, “we should not be locking up kids or individual users for long stretches of jail time when some of the folks who are writing those laws have probably done the same thing.” Accordingly, he said of the legalization of marijuana in Colorado and Washington that “it’s important for it to go forward because it’s important for society not to have a situation in which a large portion of people have at one time or another broken the law and only a select few get punished.”

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/01/27/140127fa_fact_remnick?currentPage=9

And this statement of his explains a LOT about Obama:

“it’s important for it to go forward because it’s important for society not to have a situation in which a large portion of people have at one time or another broken the law and only a select few get punished.”

So....per Obama IF any Congressman or President or person of authority has EVER broken a law, then we need to change that law and make it legal for everyone????

 

Sorry, if verbal crayons won't do it...a verbal picture won't do it....go find a sandbox to play in!

 

I'm extremely baked right now, and I'm about to go get a beer and watch some sport. I can safely say that cannabis has less negative side effects. No hangover, no nausea, minimal withdrawal relative to alcohol. On the down side, it makes food taste great so you tend to eat more, and it tends to make you unmotivated, in my experience.

I really do wish they'd stop caging people for the "crime" of gardening.

 

If the only thing alcohol did....was make people hammered and belligerent with the first drink ....then it wouldn't have the legal status is has now. You can drink one drink with food and still safely drive and not be...."hammered".

It is not in the same catagory as pot, which will hammer you as its sole purpose. You don't smoke a joint and eat a meal so that you can enjoy the flavor and feel relaxed but not get "high". The purpose is to mess with your brain---for a surreal "effect" that makes EVERY single pot smoker at that bar you are speaking of...a danger on the road. And a joint after work, night after night is going to affect you in the long-term---bringing on apathy, tiredness, a lethargic attitude and lack of over-all motivation.

It is not in the same catagory as alcohol which if anything....has a positive influence with moderate drinkers.

 

Umm...exactly what does Obama's observation have to do with his arbitrary exercises of executive fiat?

You wouldn't happen to be attempting to dishonestly and fallaciously confuse the two, now would you?

Nah...

 

It doesn't matter what the purpose is if it's being abused, and alcohol has led to widespread alcoholism with all its complications. And if there is no way of separating night cap alcohol from binge alcohol, what's the use in trying. Both impair judgment (the purpose, afterall) but I'd bet you'd find that domestic violence reports due to alcohol far exceed those reports due to marijuana. I haven't looked it up but its almost intuitive.

 

Marijuana is a downer, behind the wheel they are more likely to run someone over slowly rather than quickly. So it is safer because alcoholics are speeders, and speed kills

 

BOTH impair drivers. There's a breath-zlizer for drinking. Laws set the maximum amount. What test can the cops give to test is someone is impaired by smoking mj? Is that simply going to be a legal way to drive while impaired....and put the rest of us and our families at risk?

 

Its ok because the product---alcohol---is not unsafe or destructive. But like anything...if people misuse it then they are at fault. Not the alcohol. Vast amounts of alcohol are consumed NOT TO GET DRUNK. Believe it or not...it is a small proportion of people that fall into a slump at the bar with too much to drink--- when compared to the rest who consume and use alcohol moderately.

Why is glue sniffing bad, but glue is not illegal? Why is meth illegal? Because glue and meth are not in the same catagory.

My argument is----Pot and Alcohol are NOT in the same category---when pot's sole purpose is to obliterate the thinking of the user.

 

My argument is that you put both in the same category. In my opinion---simply using pot is abusing it. In my opinion---its a harmful drug. Drinking a glass of wine is not (unless you've had nothing to eat that day...then yes you probably won't feel good)

My experience with pot was in middle and high school. It affected my grades, my "psyc", my perception was distorted even after I quit. I had "flash backs"...meaning I would be in a high stress situation and suddenly go into a "high"---and it wasn't fun, especially when I needed judgement. It took a long time to get past all that.

Some people say it doesn't affect them adverserly. I will say they don't know...yet, how its affecting them. I want the stuff illegal. I don't want my kids falling into thinking its ok....its just like mom when she drinks a glass of wine at dinner. Because its not the same thing.

 

In my opinion---no. Its a high---a distortion of your brain.

 

I vote never.

 

No. It isn't. Pot is mind altering meant to have a mind altering affect, and you can justify it all you please. But it doesn't change the fact that if we smoked pot, like we drink alcohol we'd be a nation of nuts. And frankly I can see why liberal politicians would promote it. Pot smokers aren't ones to get all fired up when our politicians over-step their boundries. Apathy is a well known side effect of the drug---and can see how it can help keep people in line. Just a side note to the whole discussion---but frankly pretty realistic.

 

how many people have died simply due to marijuana? ZERO

how many people have died simply due to alcohol? MILLIONS (cancer + car crashes)

 

I'd like to believe you, but as an online poker player, I can't agree. They made that illegal and in the process cut themselves off of an estimate $5 billion revenue stream. It would likely be higher if they opened it up, not only to poker, but other forms of gambling.

 

Indeed. If it doesn't hurt me, I should (*)(*)(*)(*) off. Until they take more money out of my pocket so that I can provide for their well-being. Being either healthcare, rehab or funeral costs.