Israel has accused ambassadors of Britain, France, Italy and Spain,in pro-Palestinia

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and yet they keep stealing Arab private property and building more settlements.

    this is not the way to make peace, its the way to convince people you don't want peace.
     
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    Broken record moanings.
    Arabs keep stealing Israeli private property in the Negev.
    Palestinians teach their kids with hatred and Jihad.
     
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    We already discussed this lie.
     
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    Silly... Why do you fear Islam?
     
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    Negev Bedouin




    Total population

    Over 200,000

    Regions with significant populations


    Israel
    200,000-210,000[1][2]

    Languages

    Arabic (mainly Bedouin dialect, also Egyptian and Palestinian), Hebrew (Modern Israeli)

    Religion

    Islam

    The Negev Bedouin (Arabic: بدو النقب‎, Badū an-Naqab; Hebrew: הבדואים בנגב‎ Habeduim Banegev) are traditionally pastoral nomadic Arab tribes living in the Negev region in Israel.

    From 1858 during Ottoman rule, a process of sedentarization was imposed on the Negev Bedouin which accelerated after the founding of Israel.[3] In the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, most resettled in neighbouring regions. Between 1968 and 1989, Israel built seven townships in the northeast of the Negev for the Bedouin population, with about half of them relocating to these areas. Others remained in unrecognized villages built without planning which lacked basic services such as electricity and running water. The Israeli government has gradually recognized some of them and taken measures to improve infrastructure and basic services, while the majority are slated for destruction with the population facing forced displacement.

    The Prawer Plan was drawn up to address land ownership claims and compensation. The plan also called for the evacuation of 35 unrecognized villages and the resettlement of residents in existing or new towns. According to human rights organizations opposed to the plan, it discriminated against the Bedouin population of the Negev and violated the community's historic land rights.[6] In December 2013, the plan was rescinded.[7]

    The Bedouin population in the Negev numbers 200,000-210,000. Just over half of them live in seven government-built Bedouin-only towns; the remaining 90,000 live in 46 villages – 35 of which are unrecognized and 11 of which were officially recognized 10 years ago.

    The rate of growth of the Negev Bedouin is the highest in the world – the Bedouin population doubles its size every 15 years

    Negev Bedouin are formerly nomadic and later also semi-nomadic Arabs who live by rearing livestock in the deserts of southern Israel. The community is traditional and conservative, with a well-defined value system that directs and monitors behaviour and interpersonal relations.[9]

    The Negev Bedouin tribes have been divided into three classes, according to their origin: descendants of ancient Arabian nomads (originated from the Arabian peninsula, mainly from Saudi Arabia[10]), descendants of Sinai Bedouin tribes, Palestinian peasants (Fellaheen) who came from cultivated areas.[11] Al-Tarabin tribe is the largest tribe in the Negev and the Sinai Peninsula, Al-Tarabin along with Al-Tayaha, and Al-Azazma are the largest tribes in the Negev.[12]

    Counter to the image of the Bedouin as fierce stateless nomads roving the entire region, by the turn of the 20th century, much of the Bedouin population in Palestine was settled, semi-nomadic, and engaged in agriculture according to an intricate system of land ownership, grazing rights, and water access.[13][14]

    Today, many Bedouin call themselves 'Negev Arabs' rather than 'Bedouin', explaining that 'Bedouin' identity is intimately tied in with a pastoral nomadic way of life – a way of life they say is over. Although the Bedouin in Israel continue to be perceived as nomads, today all of them are fully sedentarized, and about half are urbanites.[15]

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    For the same reason you fear Zionism.
     
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    Historically, the Bedouin engaged in nomadic herding, agriculture and sometimes fishing. They also earned income by transporting goods and people[17] across the desert.[18] Scarcity of water and of permanent pastoral land required them to move constantly. The first recorded nomadic settlement in Sinai dates back 4,000-7,000 years.[18] The Bedouin of the Sinai peninsula migrated to and from the Negev.[19]

    The Bedouin established very few permanent settlements; however, some evidence remains of traditional baika buildings, seasonal dwellings for the rainy season when they would stop to engage in farming. Cemeteries known as "nawamis" dating to the late fourth millennium B.C. have been also found. Similarly, open-air mosques (without a roof) dating from the early Islamic period are common and still in use.[20] The Bedouin conducted extensive farming on plots scattered throughout the Negev.[21]

    During the 6th century, Emperor Justinian sent Wallachian and Bosnian slaves to the Sinai to build Saint Catherine's Monastery. Over time these slaves converted to Islam, and adopted an Arab Bedouin lifestyle.

    Bedouin refugees in Jordan[edit]

    Due to destabilizing tribal wars from 1780 to 1890 many Negev Bedouins tribes forced to move to southern Jordan, Sinai peninsula. After the tribal war of 1890, tribal land boundaries remained fixed until the 1948 war, by which time the Beduin of the Negev numbered approximately 110,000, and were organized into 95 tribes and clans.[39]

    When Beersheba was occupied by the Israeli army in 1948, 90% of the Bedouin population of the Negev were deported – mainly to Jordan and Gaza.[40] Of the approximately 110,000 Bedouin who lived in the Negev before the war about 11,000 remained.[37]

    The Bedouins refugees and their descendants in Jordan were given citizenship and were called (Al-Sbaawiah) (Arabic: السبعاوية‎) they make up approximately 1 million of the Jordan population.
     
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    Why should I fear Zionism??? I live in the US.
     
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    Who cares what Israel thinks ?

    Apparently for the Israeli government saying equals doing
     
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    Many Christian Americans are Zionists.
    Millions.
     
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    The was a fairly recent change in theology that was popularized during the Dust Bowl and the Depression.
     
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    So what? True Jews do not recognise Zionism and regard it as contrary to the teachings of the Torah. If your claim of "millions" of Americans being Zionists is factual, then it is clear that there are millions of stupid, uneducated Americans who are clueless both about Judaism and Zionism. True Torah Jews are also clear that the State of Israel does not represent Jews or Judaism:
    http://www.truetorahjews.org/whatiszionism
     
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    NETUREI KARTA are approx. 10,000 world wide... they have no religious thesis to rely on but a lot of superstition and their idiotic Rabbi misinterpretations... yet, they have the temerity to make more noise than 10 million adherents to their belief.
    They live in three places, the UK, Jerusalem and New York... They have been cooperating with the enemies of Israel i.e. the PLO and lately Iran... To me they are a bunch of turncoats that no one should take seriously.
     
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    Then nobody should take seriously the millions, globally, of concerned people of every persuasion, who are opposed to Zionism.
    I'm proud to be associated with any person who condemns Israel's criminal activities.
     
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    If they feared Muslims, why should they let any Muslims in their countries?
    That does not make any cense.

    Politicians in Europe that are against the alien migration to their countries are called "Nazis" by the Israel Lobby that promotes the migration of Moslems to Europe.

    France and other EU countries are controlled by Zionists, not by Muslims.

    Zionists believed that Muslims were good for their agenda (divide and conquer policy) , but these guys may be wrong in their strategies, and Muslims may unite with Christians to fight their common adversaries.
     
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    Why does Russia not sell Birobidzhan to the Zionist Lobby?

    This Jewish Homeland is older than Israel, and no ethnic cleansing will be necessary, because there are no natives in this region that can easily provide room and water for all Jews in the world.

    :D
     
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    UK and Gaza, i dont see any connection..show me UK´s statistic if you have one
     
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    feel yourself free ask putin about it

    ok , how you will "fix" Palestinians in this case ?
     
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    It represents the ppl of Israel and those that wish to support it, who are you to tell which are "true Jews" ? you think you can decide for me if im Jewish enough ?? lol
     
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    Arabs in the Negev steal private property???

    prove it.
     
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    And a quarter of the population of Israel are non-Jews and the ratio is increasing.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    while of course there is still anti-Semitism in the Europe, the fact is that Israel for decades has been acting in ways that makes it very difficult to give them full support.

    they exiled Palestinians in the border areas of the state, AFTER the 1948 War was ended.

    they invaded Jordan before the 1967 War.

    they exiled hundreds of thousands of more Palestinians in the 1967 War.

    they have confiscated tens of thousands of acres of private property in the West Bank for military purposes, and then gave the land, for free, to Israeli settlers.

    they destroyed hundreds of Arab villages and mosques in Israel.

    they refuse to let even one single Palestinian refugees return to their former lands. Not even allow folks to return to the West Bank.

    when Israel does thing like this, while demanding that the Europeans remember the Holocaust and all the suffering and persecutions the Jews have endured over the centuries, it makes it very difficult to not say to Israel and Israelis:

    "wtf man??????????? what the hell is wrong with you guys????"
     
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    lol, you wouldn't even have the bloody place if it wasn't for British colonialism.
     
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    That's interesting logic. If they feared Islam then why would they have opened their borders to proponents and exponents of the faith?
     

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