Not a Smidgen?.. 'I Was Targeted Because of My Political Beliefs'

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  1. way2convey

    way2convey Well-Known Member

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    Wonder if in Obama's world this would qualify as a "smidgen"?

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/06/True-the-Vote-Founder-on-IRS-I-Was-Targeted-Because-of-My-Political-Beliefs

    "Not a smidgen", Mr. President? Really?

    Now, one could argue that the government agencies named had the legal authority to conduct these "visits" and demand the information they did, but the real question is did they apply their standards equally for all C-3 applicants and the answer is clearly no, they did not. Which leads to the next question; why didn't they? Why were conservative organizations (and individuals) targeted so disproportionately for such scrutiny and who in the administration spear headed this policy? Well, hopefully the investigation will give us the answers. But one thing we can be sure of is that Obama had no knowledge of what was going because he said so, right?
     
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    samiam5211 New Member Past Donor

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    Nothing there suggests that he was targeted for his political beliefs. He's just a narcissist who things he's being unfairly singled out.
     
  4. Wizard From Oz

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    Yes because all the investigations are about the groups tax exempt status. To bad that is not true

    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/oct/05/news/la-pn-voting-rights-tea-party-20121004

    http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/19334
     
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    way2convey Well-Known Member

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    Yea, you obviously have a handle it. Oh, by the way, Catherine Engelbrecht is a she.
     
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    "They targeted you because it was working," Jordan said. "They said, 'We can't have this. Here's a conservative who is making an impact.' That's why you were targeted."

    LOL. Yeah, a group of IRS people, half of whom are likely conservative Republicans, got together and said, "Oh no! Here's a conservative group making an impact, we must target them and destroy them!"

    No conservative group was denied tax-exempt status. However, there was a liberal group that was targeted and denied tax-exempt status. Is the RWNM going to be outraged over this? Of course not.

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    Well, she says she "felt" like was targeted. That's enough evidence for Breitbart to draw a conclusion.
     
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    How many liberal groups got dogged for two years after submitting an application?
     
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    How many liberal groups are under congressional investigation for voter suppression?
     
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    Plenty have had vote fraud convictions.
     
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    Nearly 292 conservative groups targeted vs 6 liberal groups.

    You see the political bias. REMOVED FLAMEBAIT
     
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    Well yes, and thus you beautifully summarized the typical leftwing perspective in regards to the IRS scandal . . . on the whole they are exhibiting classic signs of utter denial of reality.
     
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    How dare you question the prophetic vision of the Obama!

    One of His donors is conducting a stonewall, I mean "investigation" *cough*, where virtually none of the victims have been interviewed, but He can declare that there's not a smidgen of corruption at the IRS.

    He said that it is so, just as he said that we can keep our doctors and HC plans if we like them, period. How could we doubt Him? His Word is the Current Truth™! :worship:
     
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    FLAME REMOVED.

    Keep in mind, the same TIGTA report that everyone is pointing to also said that 80% of these groups would have been selected for review if other measures were used for the selection process. And the point is that there was no targeting, just a bunch of people who did not fill out package 1024 correctly or were expressing themselves in the package to warrant review.
     
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    Both sides are politicizing this to the nth degree.

    However, when you fill out package 1023 or 1024, you do not make statements that the only reason you are doing this is to get rid of Obama or to coordinate such activities in a 501c4 with a political campaign.
     
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    LOL Really. Then please spin us all a yarn at what the motivation would be to have that discrepancy. I love a show before lunch.

    Let's see it.

    292 to 6. Are you really going to try and feed us this BS?

    Let's break it down just for you. If nothing happened why did Lois Lerner plead the 5th?

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    So you have proof they all did that? Love to see that too.

    When you make stuff up then get called on it, it can be darn inconvenient
     
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    Especially after IRS officials apologized for targeting conservative groups and started copping the Fifth about it.

    One would have to be a stark raving moron to take the word of the people who told you that you could keep your doctor and HC plan if they liked them, period. That also goes for taking the word of the liars who said Obama, et al, didn't deceive the American people when they promised you could keep them, period.
     
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    None, but the New Black Panther Party ought to be. By the way, the New Black Panthers were the only absolutely clear cut example of voter suppression and liberals didn't seem to take much umbrage to that.
     
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    Why whatever for?

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    Pretty funny isnt it?

    They dont see the issue with 292 to 6 in this case...but if it was 296 White faces in a school and only 6 Black and Latino ones...you bet they'd notice an issue. Gotta love the selective sight of the left.
     
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    There's nothing quite like a nightstick to help one vote properly.

    Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to kill some white kids...
     
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    On with the tyranny by the Democrats and the Government Agencies. From yesterday's congressional hearings. Sadly, outside of CSPAN no one is covering this besides Fox and other Conservative outlets. ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, etc... don't want the public seeing the following testimony and exchange.

    “After nearly 20 years of being in business,” Engelbrecht, said during the hearing, “and no agency coming to visit with us, the succession of agencies that have now come to us — for all manner of things — begs the question.”

    “The statistical probabilities of what happened to me happening, without political motivation is staggering,” she added.

    An incredulous Connolly took her to task.

    “I would just note for the record,” he said, “because we’re so concerned about the law here, and making sure there are no violations of the law, are you aware of the fact that it’s actually illegal for … [the Occupational Safety and Health Administration] to give advance notice when it gives inspections? That’s actually a matter of law.”

    OSHA visited Engelbrecht’s business soon after she filed an application requesting tax-exempt status for the the King Street Patriots. The OSHA visit resulted in her business being fined roughly $25,000 for various violations, including “the wrong type of safety glasses on an employee” and “the wrong type of seat belt on a forklift.”

    “I’m not contending that they should’ve given us notice,” she said. “I’m only observing –”

    “But you complained about it. You complained that you didn’t get advance notice,” Connolly shot back. “I understand the concern, but you understand that they can’t check in advance to see will you be there.”

    “Nor did we try to do anything to discourage that process even though we weren’t on premise,” she said.

    “And I absolutely take that at face value,” he continued, “but it’s a huge leap then, given that, to conclude that someone’s out to get you, Ms. Engelbrecht, that there’s any political motivation whatsoever with OSHA following its standard operating procedure.”

    Fellow witness Jay Sekulow, chief counsel for the American Center for Law, tried to jump in to lend Engelbrecht a hand, but was promptly shut out because he was not being questioned at that time in the hearing.

    That’s when Jordan stepped in to make a simple but effective point.

    “Ms. Engelbrecht,” Jordan said, “in the first 20 years of business, did OSHA ever visit your place of business?”

    “No sir,” she responded.

    “Never once?”

    “No sir.”

    “After you filed the [tax-exempt application for King Street Patriots], OSHA visited then, right?”

    “Yes sir.”

    “In the first 20 years of business did the [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives] ever come to your business?” Jordan continued.

    “No sir.”

    “And they came a couple times once you filed your application?”

    “Yes sir.”

    “And in your first 20 years of business, did the IRS ever audit you?”

    “No sir.”

    “But once you filed your application, they audited you?”

    “Many times.”

    “And in your first 20 years of business, did the FBI ever visit you?”

    “No sir.”

    “But once you filed your application, did they visit you?”

    “Six times.”

    Jordan made his final point: “Mr. Connolly wants us to believes that’s all a coincidence.”

    Unamused with Jordan’s line of questioning, an agitated Connolly shot back, insisting that he’s merely looking for evidence of the scrutiny being politically motivated.

    “You can believe it’s all a coincidence,” Jordan said. “I refuse to do so.”

    “I believe in fact-based, empirical oversight,” Connolly responded. “And innuendo and drawing conclusions and paranoia do not substitute for fact-based, empirical oversight.”

    Connolly concluded by muttering the word “McCarthyism”:


    VIDEO OF THE EXCHANGE IS ON THE SITE

    ----------- More is added later as Trey Gowdy exposed why Barack Obama claiming no evidence is a ridiculous and political statement --------------------------------------


    Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C. blasted President Obama for "pre-judging" the outcome of the IRS investigation for targeting Tea Party groups who applied for tax-exempt status.

    Gowdy referred to Obama's assertion in a Fox News interview that there was “not even a smidgen of corruption” in the IRS case.

    "How can he possibly draw that conclusion?" Gowdy asked, pointing out that former IRS official Lois Lerner invoked the Fifth Amendment and refused to testify.



    "I understand why she invoked her Fifth Amendment privilege; I don't understand why in the hell the president of the United States would prejudge an investigation before any of your clients were interviewed," Gowdy said during a House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing on Thursday while questioning American Center for Law and Justice lawyer Jay Sekulow, who represents Tea Party clients.

    Gowdy revealed that none of Sekulow's 41 clients had been interviewed by any of the 13 Justice Department investigators during the six months of the investigation.



    So it's just a coincidence that once a TEA Party Group applied to the IRS the person involved to over 16 visits by 4 different Federal Government agencies after never having a single visit in 20+ years. Only a lock step left wing hack would believe in such a coincidence. What the Federal Government is doing is tyranny. It's sad that so many "Progressives" support it or deny it.

    How can Barack Obama claim "no evidence" of a scandal when they haven't event interviewed a single of the 41 complaintants?

    Why is it that the IRS Cincinnati Field Office staff is pointing at D.C. forcing them to do these audits all the while the Liberal talking machine and the Obama Administration put out the talking point about, "a few rouge agents in a field office".


    Enjoying your tyranny lefties? Or still just denying it?
     
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    Silence is consent, Rich. If ever there was an exposition of the moral, ethical and intellectual bankruptcy of Democrats and "progressives" this is it.
     
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    I'd say they're enjoying their New McCarthyite cake and eating it, too, HB.
     
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    I suspect you might be wrong about that

    http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2009/January/09-crt-014.html

    http://blog.adl.org/anti-semitism/new-black-panthers-respond-to-king-samir-shabazzs-arrest

    http://blog.adl.org/extremism/king-...nal-field-marshall-arrested-on-weapons-charge

    It would appear the Federal authorities are expending as much energy on these extremists as they do on some of the neo-NAzi groups out there
     
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    Obama...what a liar! Too bad we still remember that the IRS APOLOGIZED for singling out conservative groups.
     

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