conservative doesn't exist: its communism vs freedom

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  1. taxrentonly

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    low government spending is how to make a nation great along with no restrictions on production and protection of individual rights

    communism always fails

    yet dems love to do it comy style

    yes you can line your pocket and your friends but we all suffer higher prices and debt when you do

    this is why us constitution so brilliant

    limits gov spending

    if we didnt tolerate bs from coourts and lawyers writing laws, we would be a lot more free as constution intended

    usa is no1

    europe should copy usa not usa copy crappy economy europe

    fascism/communism/socialism are all the same thing, central control and toleration of central commite telling individuals what to do, disallow it and you get freedom and good
     
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    And how is being told what to do, by the corporations, any better?
     
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    well will lower gov spending, corps couldn't scam as much money eh? remember 2008 was caused by freddy fannie and fed and clinton not corps

    corps make your car and house and things military uses to keep usa safe

    onyl efficient way of producing anything without killing everyone

    corporations are awesome

    get rid of your 14 year old hipster oow oow corps are bad mindset
     
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    The corporations just become the government - same thing, different name.

    Taxes are merely hidden in price increases.
     
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    you live in some democrat myth world

    stop voting for guys like obama and frank who give money to pals like solydra 550mil then that corp goes outa biz and pal at solydra pockets the cash lol
     
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    I am not an Obama voter
     
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    What? Corporations don't lobby the gov't to get laws written in their favor so they can make more money? So freddie and fannie packaged junk loans together to make them appear more attractive(when they really were not) so they could sell them to other corporations unsuspectedly?

    Nah, money hunger elites did that!


    Except the ones that put money/profit before making safe products.



    He has given tax breaks to businesses/corps. But hey, I know in bubble land, anything good for business is actually "hating" business. And anything bad for business is actually good for business........or something. Who can understand conservative logic these days?
     
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    OMG, what? Facepalm. Yeah, they pocketed the cash instead of using it to buy more materials to make products that they couldn't sell because the market price couldn't be matched.

    If the gov't gave me money and I bought materials to make a product that I couldn't sell once that product was finished(because the prices of finished product are well below what it took for me to make it), then how in the world did I pocket the money when in actuality I purchased materials and made product that I couldn't sell once it was finished?

    If the gov't gave me 500million and I purchased materials to make solar panels............and I do make solar panels with the material that I purchase, how in god's tarnation did I pocket that money, when I actually I spent it on materials and production? Hint: There is no way.

    But in coservative land they will always find a way.

    Wow, just wow!
     
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    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    So what is the difference between other laws and the constitution. Why should we ignore some BS laws but not Constitutional laws - Who actually decides between the bs laws and the good ones?
     
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    "As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance."
    John Dewey

    already the same thing
     
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    We either need to go full out, old fashioned anarchy and completely dismantle government, to be rebuilt ground up, community by community, or we need to take control of government with far more direct democracy and an end to moneyed influence in politics.

    I prefer the latter. The former leaves us open to invasion, among other woes.

    What cannot continue is corporate owned government that puts the interests of a few above the interests of all.
     
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    Their lobbying efforts are more about creating barriers of entry into their line of business to prevent competition. Yes, this allows them to make more money but keep in mind, it is initially started with preventing competition, keeping the super rich elite, the super rich elite. No new members wanted in that club and it is the main reason the income gap is growing.

    What you probably don't recoginize is that most of the members of that club are democrats and big gov't supporters. Big business and super rich elite love big gov't and lots of rules and regs and taxes that stifel the rest of of from getting too far ahead. I hope you support the movement that wants to dismantle the ability of big gov't to be used by democrats to keep this racket going.
     
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    "if we didnt tolerate bs from coourts and lawyers writing laws, we would be a lot more free as constution intended..."

    Didn't the Constitution intend us to have a court system to settle conflicts and a system for writing laws? Isn't that part of the heritage passed on to us by our founding fathers? What part of the constitution says that this limits freedom?
     
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    Nope, its the republicans, not democrats
     
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    How do explain most of the 1%ers residing in the democrat party then?
     
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    Any evidence of what you say?
     
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    What does a central committee tell people to do that Wall Street and the Fed Reserve do not? A few years ago, Wall Street told us that we had to have an 11% unemployment rate and a Depression. It told the middle class that we had to adopt austerity measures because it needed an infusion to reimburse the petty cash fund. Let's face it, the U.S. is as centrally controlled as Stalinist Russia ever was.
     
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    usa got on well with governmetn budget 1% of what is is today

    thats all I want

    1% of spending and regulations
     
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    There is a name for this 'Crony Capitalism'

    http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cronycapitalism.asp
    A description of capitalist society as being based on the close relationships between businessmen and the state. Instead of success being determined by a free market and the rule of law, the success of a business is dependent on the favoritism that is shown to it by the ruling government in the form of tax breaks, government grants and other incentives.
     

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