Hollywood bar to ‘Deny Entry’ to Lawmakers who back anti-gay legislation

you have no clue what you're talking about

ever heard of the 'age of consent'?

 

They're not making a law saying it's okay to discriminate. It's a false equivalency. I haven't seen a single piece of law proposed that has the LGBT community treating society at large as lesser humans. I've only seen that coming from religious camps and ignorant folks.

 

ahem....

 

Sure--and some could argue that that is discrimination in of itself. And this is where liberal logic comes to a crashing halt. The liberal media loves to sexualize children but somehow has some kind of perverse moral imperitive to prevent them from drinking and smoking ciggarettes....its illogical

 

it's discrimination against something that's unethical

certainly you understand the difference

 

And thats where you are wrong..the LGBT community has gone out of its way to harrass, punish, and sue ANYONE who dares disagree with thier lifestyle for whatever reason. Doesnt matter why.

 

sure--kinda like "Affirmative action" but anyone who disagrees with it is branded a racist.

 

it's nothing like affirmative action and do you think there's any lack of racists?

no wonder so many sensible people have been pushed away from the gop

 

Where I'm wrong? Please, point me to EVERY LAW that was pushed by someone in support of or actually a member of the LGBT community that allows discrimination against anyone else. Show me where these people are because I don't recall any law being passed that says "Gay business owners can discriminate against straight people because they're straight".

Show me this law, show me who passed it and I'll concede. If you're talking about people judging the people that have already judged, then you're just silly. You expect someone who was treated unfairly is just going to be like, 'okay, you're right. I'm lame and your prejudice is justified'? No, they're going to be like, 'You ignorant ass, I'll see you in court for discrimination on no justifiable grounds of law'.

So please, spare me your garbage. And you know for a FACT you would be just as up in arms if some aspect of you caused you to be refused service you should rightfully be able to engage in because you have the money. Red hair? We don't serve your kind here. Wearing blue jeans? We don't serve your kind here. Rinse and repeat. "My religion says I can't serve anyone who wears cloths of two different threads." That's great and all, but religion doesn't drive the market place, it doesn't belong in law either and that's what this (*)(*)(*)(*) is all about. Lawful discrimination. Even if you're against people being gay, you should at least be for civil rights because if you're not, you're an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*). It's simple as that. If you're for discrimination, you're against civil rights.

 

How about this law in California that prohibits discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation but allows discrimination on any other basis

 

Show me the law, I'll comment on it. I know of no such law, and apparently you don't know much about it else you would have posted at least a news article discussing it.

 

Almost half the states and the District of Columbia have laws that currently prohibit sexual orientation discrimination in both public and private jobs: California, Colorado, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, and Wisconsin.


EQCA strengthens major areas of California law and clarifies that people are protected from discrimination regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity.

http://www.eqca.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=kuLRJ9MRKrH&b=4026609&ct=5199313

 

I was asking the dude to show me a law that allows a gay person to discriminate against other people they don't like out of prejudice. We already know that california doesn't allow any discrimination in a businesses as either an employee or patron/client. That was my point. However, it's being mislabeled as 'discrimination' when LGBT wants equal marriage rights. Equal rights.

But no, let's relabel it religious freedom and do away with this equal rights stuff. Because religion trumps everything for some reason. Next, we should bring back all biblical laws. I'm sure it would incarcerate and execute 85% of the population.

 

You say alot without really saying anything of merit. Hirng a black person with less qualifications over a white person is DISCRIMINATION. Refusing to hire someone because they smoke cigarettes is DISCRIMINATION! But I guess to you, "Civil rights" only apply to minorities..white people can drop dead...right?

 

51. (a) This section shall be known, and may be cited, as the Unruh
Civil Rights Act.
(b) All persons within the jurisdiction of this state are free and
equal, and no matter what their sex, race, color, religion,
ancestry, national origin, disability, medical condition, genetic
information, marital status, or sexual orientation are entitled to
the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities,
privileges, or services in all business establishments of every kind
whatsoever.

51.5. (a) No business establishment of any kind whatsoever shall
discriminate against, boycott or blacklist, or refuse to buy from,
contract with, sell to, or trade with any person in this state on
account of any characteristic listed or defined in subdivision (b) or
(e) of Section 51,

 

Nonsense. They don't allow discrimination based upon sex, race, color, religion,
ancestry, national origin, disability, medical condition, genetic
information, marital status, or sexual orientation. You can discriminate on any other basis you like. If I alleged a California business discriminated against me on the basis of being a republican, there isn't a thing the law could do for me. Or because I have freckles, to tall, too skinny, any reason they like as long as its not one of the above classifications.

 

Man, that's a lot of states above the Mason-Dixon Line, I wonder why the "southern" states are not represented...

Sounds like a map of the old slaves states vs free states.....

I wonder what is the reason it looks similar......

 

it's the giant sucking sound of a brain drain to more ethical states

 

You don't understand what discrimination is. Not hiring someone based on merit isn't discrimination. I mean, I love ELO too, but I gotta point out with a fellow ELO fan that's not the same thing as both hiring the black guy who's underqualified or completely ignoring the black guy for the position because he's black.
And what's this cigarette smoking law you speak of? It was proposed but I don't recall it going through. I smoke and have worked even at hospitals. They just require you to do what they've always required: Go off campus. You seem to mistake what really is discrimination: It's refusing service or goods to someone with no grounds at all, just personally held beliefs about that person. I.E. You could call it discrimination (In my book, but not legally mind you) if I fired the guy who's the best worker just because I don't like him and think he's a jerk. That's personal discrimnation and not related to his skills and it's no base to fire him over.

Again, know the word. It's passing judgement and denying equal rights to someone 'just because'. And I'm sure you're going to bring up something like Hooters Girls...that's not descrimination. It's stated up front we hire ladies and we want them to wear these small clothes. You didn't apply to be, as a man, a waiter there and then find out AFTER you didn't get the job they were only hiring that kind of person. And as well, they don't ONLY hire women to work there.

I mean, why is it that gay people are being treated like (*)(*)(*)(*)? It seems like the religious puritan crowd through the ages has:
lost their slaves
Lost their power over women
Lost their privilege over black people
and now these (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s want to get married too?

Just get over it and stop trying to play 'poor white victim'. You're not a victim. So cut it out.

 

The law says 'any arbitrary discrimination' as a catch all for the very things you said. You cannot be discriminated against because you're republican. Stop trying to play the victim.

 

One of the most vehemently anti-gay legislators in the MD State legislature was indeed caught doing exactly that. And there was this Republican Congress critter who was chasing little boys around men's rooms while authoring laws against gays in Congress. You can argue this point all you want, psychologists are generally agreed that most anti-gay feelings come from latent homosexuals in denial of their own homosexual tendencies. Really, really hating gays is one of the surest signs that you yourself are queerer than a rhinestone storm trooper buying Cher tickets with three dollar bills

Were I the owner of a gay bar I'd have a free night for Republican legislators, in appreciation of all their fine services for the gay community, very few people would even realize that gays actually married if the Republicans didn't make such fuss about it.

 

The hypocrisy of leftists knows no bounds.

 

Interesting. Well, they're protesting those who want to refuse service based on their sexual preference, which is against the law in California. Refusing to provide service based upon one's profession isn't a law. Perhaps you should catch up on your CA law?

 

No it doesn't. But feel free to quote the rest of the statute, not just 3 words. I provided the statute that confirms everything I said and you so vehemently deny.

 

Vehemently, eh? Well, then go run a business and try to do the discrimination you cited and tell me how much you get the plaintiff will ultimately successfully sue you for. I'll wait.